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MarvinGardens

(779 posts)
56. I see it in science too.
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 01:04 PM
Mar 2018

I have spoken out against it when I was involved in hiring decisions and saw it happening. "Overqualified" is code for "too old". I was at a different company in the aftermath of the Great Recession. We were hiring for a couple of Chemist 1 positions, and had all these applicants with Chemist 3 or higher level of experience. A manager did not want to consider them, because "they'll leave as soon as they find something better." I thought we should hire the most experienced folks for the money. They know the pay range for this position. My reply: "If they could find something better, you think they'd apply for this? You think young people won't leave if they find something better?"

It's not uncommon in my field for older applicants to omit some experience, master's degrees, etc. from their resumes.

It affected my Dad too. He was laid off from a good job in the 90s, and had to work not so good contract jobs for years before he found something good.

They did the same to my husband......? ProudMNDemocrat Mar 2018 #1
I've been at my same job for 14 years. forgotmylogin Mar 2018 #48
I worked in a small company that didn't have promotion opportunities FakeNoose Mar 2018 #63
We are CS as well. forgotmylogin Mar 2018 #64
I have driven a truck for 25 years DiverDave Mar 2018 #70
Kick & recommend. This chilling quote from IBM bronxiteforever Mar 2018 #2
unfortunately IBM is not alone - many, if not most, corporations engage in similar practices DrDan Mar 2018 #3
colleges and universities, too NJCher Mar 2018 #29
adjuncts . . . low wages, no benefits, no security, no status DrDan Mar 2018 #36
it depends on the state NJCher Mar 2018 #54
"The Slasher" Jack Welch, head of GE who said he'd move a barge around appalachiablue Mar 2018 #35
and many, many CEOs adopted his management style - his impact was felt far and wide DrDan Mar 2018 #38
Those at the top benefitted plenty from Welch's mgmt. tactics I'm sure. appalachiablue Mar 2018 #42
IBM Red State Prisoner Mar 2018 #4
IBM: "I've Been Misled!" Fritz Walter Mar 2018 #5
This was modus operandi for most corporation since the crash Farmer-Rick Mar 2018 #6
And yet we're supposed to keep working longer and longer before retirement groundloop Mar 2018 #19
Yeah it happened to my better half Farmer-Rick Mar 2018 #24
Got it, how are people to survive age 40-70, beyond? They Don't Care. appalachiablue Mar 2018 #44
Five years ago MurrayDelph Mar 2018 #53
"They decided to go in a different direction"-- raccoon Mar 2018 #60
Re:"Grey hair in my beard"- I began having my hair professionally colored No Vested Interest Mar 2018 #72
I noticed the ageist comments on this forum dropped Hortensis Mar 2018 #7
Generation G Achilleaze Mar 2018 #8
Age Discrimination is Very Real and Much More Widespread than is Commonly Reported dlk Mar 2018 #9
IBM is not the only company guilty of age descrimination. Libert Mutual Insurance had a class action infullview Mar 2018 #10
This is one reason you take care of your own early retirement knightmaar Mar 2018 #11
So you got to earn all your retirement income by the time you are 40? Farmer-Rick Mar 2018 #25
yeah. If you're making a high tech income, it's easier. knightmaar Mar 2018 #33
Wow, are they still making that kind of money? Farmer-Rick Mar 2018 #37
With 20 years of experience? Yes. Undoubtedly. knightmaar Mar 2018 #46
I had a friend who worked for IBM in the 70s and 80s. MineralMan Mar 2018 #12
I just sold my Selectric for $300. Had a guy clean it up (ex IBM guy) sinkingfeeling Mar 2018 #27
Wow! I finally bought another one, from Goodwill. MineralMan Mar 2018 #30
They all do it. Sherman A1 Mar 2018 #13
There is an industry term for this.. getagrip_already Mar 2018 #14
I know I'm going to get flammed for this, but H1-B visas didn't make this any better either. infullview Mar 2018 #34
well, ok, fair enough, but how many do you think there are? getagrip_already Mar 2018 #49
Enough that bumped into them on more than one occaision in software development and R and D. infullview Mar 2018 #59
What getagrip said... and per my Ilsa Mar 2018 #67
Not clear on what you mean. infullview Mar 2018 #73
In this particular case, according to my better half, Ilsa Mar 2018 #74
Capitalism at its finest. Nitram Mar 2018 #15
IBM forced us out bearfan454 Mar 2018 #16
That's what I did with SS. Ligyron Mar 2018 #32
SS offfices closing, offering workers early retirement & more for obvious reasons. appalachiablue Mar 2018 #39
And they want to raise the age limit for SS! Dustlawyer Mar 2018 #17
It is a fact that older workers won't get hired. bearfan454 Mar 2018 #20
this is changing..... getagrip_already Mar 2018 #50
"In Right to Work states they don't have to give a reason for termination." WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2018 #21
Coke did the same thing. n/t Brainstormy Mar 2018 #18
check out site watchingibm com Rene Mar 2018 #22
all of us oldies Brainstormy Mar 2018 #45
Quicken Loans did it to me / Ageism is rampant in US Dorn Mar 2018 #23
Brought tears to my eyes. I saw the writing on the wall way back in 1992 sinkingfeeling Mar 2018 #26
my hubby was director of hospital pharmacy...same thing happened to him at age 60 and then a samnsara Mar 2018 #28
Ageism, racism, sexism & more seem wide open in this new conservative era. appalachiablue Mar 2018 #31
K&R for exposure of rampant age discrimination meow2u3 Mar 2018 #40
Engineers and computer scientists have to study about 10 hours/week to keep up FarCenter Mar 2018 #41
and training at IBM has taken a nasty turn - training is done on employee time - keep-up or ship-out DrDan Mar 2018 #43
Employers will only train you in things specific to the company FarCenter Mar 2018 #47
IBM worked around the workplace laws for older ppl. Nothing but GREED. Shameful. iluvtennis Mar 2018 #51
It's not just IBM. It's the whole computer/high tech industry. hvn_nbr_2 Mar 2018 #52
Bingo. Doing the former myself right now. Stand and Fight Mar 2018 #62
That sucks Demovictory9 Mar 2018 #55
I see it in science too. MarvinGardens Mar 2018 #56
Everyone is disposable. mn9driver Mar 2018 #57
BM and The Holocaust - the story of IBM's strategic alliance with Nazi Germany niyad Mar 2018 #58
Hubs was forced out a couple of years ago...he fought the last couple to save a shitty pension. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #61
This hardly sounds like the square-dealing corporation we've all come to know and love, does it? BobTheSubgenius Mar 2018 #65
And the Republicans want to raise the age for Social Security to 70 nt dflprincess Mar 2018 #66
It isn't just IBM. Sophia4 Mar 2018 #68
A friend recently interviewed there catrose Mar 2018 #69
Microsoft, Amazon, Apple, Facebook - they all do it RainCaster Mar 2018 #71
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