Been my thought for a long time. (Reply #2)

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Sun Jul 29, 2012, 10:34 PM

elleng (105,631 posts)

2. Been my thought for a long time.

Rangel's, too. http://www.house.gov/list/press/ny15_rangel/CBRStatementonDraft02142006.html

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88 replies	Author	Time	Post
Do You Want to End Unnecessary American Wars? Reinstate the Draft [View all]	louis c	Jul 2012	OP
The Draft Will Never Be Reinstated.	TheMastersNemesis	Jul 2012	#1
Right	elleng	Jul 2012	#3
+1.	HiPointDem	Jul 2012	#21
I knew that during Bush's stolen Presidency	lunatica	Jul 2012	#24
Been my thought for a long time.	elleng	Jul 2012	#2
only way to get middle America to notice the wars anymore	lunasun	Jul 2012	#4
Evidently wrong.	Warren Stupidity	Jul 2012	#5
"War is a racket.	OnyxCollie	Jul 2012	#7
Actually Europe hasn't had a war since they opened borders	pampango	Jul 2012	#34
I'm sure if we had the two greatest wars in history on our continent	4th law of robotics	Jul 2012	#59
Well, there were the Indian Wars...	Scootaloo	Jul 2012	#62
You're overlooking changes in media and communications since the Korean war ended....	Scuba	Jul 2012	#18
No I didn't. I said that actually the situation now is worse than in the 60s.	Warren Stupidity	Jul 2012	#22
I strongly disagree. You start drafting the sons and daughters of the wealthy and ...	Scuba	Jul 2012	#23
And when has that ever happened?	Warren Stupidity	Jul 2012	#25
First of all, lack of a draft certainly hasn't slowed the war machine...	Scuba	Jul 2012	#26
50000 casualties in Vietnam compared to 3500 in Iraq.	Warren Stupidity	Jul 2012	#28
people who want the draft	2pooped2pop	Jul 2012	#32
It's basically a bunch of wash-outs hoping to feel relevant again	Scootaloo	Jul 2012	#37
Not this boomer. Fuck the draft.	Warren Stupidity	Jul 2012	#40
I'm considered a boomer	2pooped2pop	Jul 2012	#50
Don't have children of that age and/ or are not of draft age	Drale	Jul 2012	#53
and they don't take care of the ones they have either	2pooped2pop	Jul 2012	#55
Too late for mitt's sons...they are too old	riverbendviewgal	Jul 2012	#6
Too old to die for your country? I think not.	Scuba	Jul 2012	#19
The flaw in your proposal is it would never affect children of the wealthy	jeff47	Jul 2012	#8
Only if it was mandatory service,like Israel has	w8liftinglady	Jul 2012	#9
Yeah.....no	abelenkpe	Jul 2012	#10
War bonds....	nc4bo	Jul 2012	#11
Vietnam was almost unique in having a low % of draftees, WWII was about 70% draftee, Vietnam 30%	braddy	Jul 2012	#12
The WWII draft was more of a filter than a vacuum sucker.	Zalatix	Aug 2012	#81
Actually the WWII draft was to get men into the combat units, 93% of the army was drafted.	braddy	Aug 2012	#82
Yes, but in WW-II men were desperate to go. They wanted designation 1A.	Zalatix	Aug 2012	#83
Evidently not, they needed the draft to fill the ground forces, seafaring forces were 36% drafted	braddy	Aug 2012	#85
That's like re-instituting slavery to show how Jim Crow is wrong. Bad idea. To this I say...	Zalatix	Jul 2012	#13
A "War Tax" would be better.	toddwv	Jul 2012	#14
My draft lottery number was also 104	jimmyd13	Jul 2012	#15
No thank you.	Marinedem	Jul 2012	#16
Agreed. #1 The decision makers always seem to get _their_ kids out of harm's way. #2 A volunteer	GreenPartyVoter	Jul 2012	#36
Not this crap again.	Gemini Cat	Jul 2012	#17
I know some wealthy guys who dodged the draft during WW II when the top draft age was 45	NNN0LHI	Jul 2012	#20
No.	djean111	Jul 2012	#27
Add this ... "Children and or grandchildren (of age) of all elected officials go automatically."	JoePhilly	Jul 2012	#29
Haven't we stopped beating this dead horse yet?	Lurks Often	Jul 2012	#30
You want my advice?	Scootaloo	Jul 2012	#31
nice!	Phentex	Jul 2012	#33
Nice post, except there was no draft in 1776	Art_from_Ark	Jul 2012	#54
There were drafts, but not "the draft"	Scootaloo	Jul 2012	#56
There was conscription by a few states/colonies during the Revolution	Art_from_Ark	Jul 2012	#58
+1	JVS	Jul 2012	#61
Actually, 60 on Sept. 18	louis c	Aug 2012	#70
More than 17,000 draftees died in Vietnam before the war ended	pinboy3niner	Aug 2012	#74
Yep, bad math on my part	Scootaloo	Aug 2012	#78
I'm 57, I'll be happy to go. Don't want to talk draft, how about...	Hotler	Aug 2012	#76
IMO	Mr Dixon	Jul 2012	#35
"Funny thing about fishing . . . it never works out so well for the bait."	HughBeaumont	Jul 2012	#38
If we're not worried about anyone's rights, let's reinstate slavery but just for the children of	pampango	Jul 2012	#39
I agree with you completely - reinstate the Draft, men and women	1-Old-Man	Jul 2012	#41
No. I'm of draft age, and I sure as hell don't want to be sent	Arkana	Jul 2012	#42
And a good thought it is.	99Forever	Jul 2012	#43
The Army is too small compared to the pool of draftees to make it fair	hack89	Jul 2012	#44
Meh, hit and run post.	Javaman	Jul 2012	#45
I use 1963 to 1973 for Vietnam, but most official sources call it 1965 to 1975, the draft went from	braddy	Aug 2012	#79
You're correct, I should have said "lottery" and not draft. nt	Javaman	Aug 2012	#88
You're right on both counts	pinboy3niner	Aug 2012	#84
I've seen this flawed argument way too many times...	Comrade_McKenzie	Jul 2012	#46
Bush, Cheney, Romney, Quayle etc.	_ed_	Jul 2012	#47
It didn't stop it in Korea and Vietnam, but it did show how this is a class dominated society....	dmosh42	Jul 2012	#48
The Same Congress Critters That Get Govt. Healthcare While Denying It To The Masses	Yavin4	Jul 2012	#49
Why so richie rich will have something to do in avoidance? Hmmf.	lonestarnot	Jul 2012	#51
Ain't happening. The rich/well-connected would simply become danger-dodgers	DinahMoeHum	Jul 2012	#52
I'm opposed for many reasons	FreeJoe	Jul 2012	#57
We've had a great many wars with a draft	4th law of robotics	Jul 2012	#60
No, it's evil. You're talking about forcing people to serve in a killing machine.	Sirveri	Jul 2012	#63
Your viewpoint is, in my opninion, very short sighted	1-Old-Man	Jul 2012	#64
So the only thing is to FORCE people to kill other people.	Sirveri	Jul 2012	#69
Thanks	louis c	Aug 2012	#72
The author's idea has never worked in the past.	Zalatix	Aug 2012	#80
Yeah, that worked so well in the Vietnam War	pinboy3niner	Aug 2012	#86
Agreed. I'd support that.	closeupready	Jul 2012	#65
Yes, since that worked so well in keeping us out of Nam and then getting us out in	yellowcanine	Jul 2012	#66
I'm sorry, but no, this wouldn't work.	AverageJoe90	Jul 2012	#67
I say we draft all the wealthy and rich kids first!	fascisthunter	Jul 2012	#68
I guess World War I, the Korean War, and Vietnam were necessary?	Puregonzo1188	Aug 2012	#71
Again	louis c	Aug 2012	#73
Want more unnecessary wars and even more dead kids? Reinstate the draft.	NYC Liberal	Aug 2012	#75
If they are already drafting your money for these optional wars, and if drafting your money hasn't	AnotherMcIntosh	Aug 2012	#77
To end unnecessary wars, we'd need	area51	Aug 2012	#87

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