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JCanete

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109. I disagree with your order. YOu can't get equality and justice if you let economics continue to be

Sat Apr 7, 2018, 11:21 AM

Apr 2018

wedge used by the rich to divide people. That is just insurmountable. You can't do social justice without economic justice as far as I can tell, but if somebody wants to actually explain how it can be done in that order, I'm all for hearing you out.

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Bernie cannot come to the cookout. Sorry, not sorry. [View all] LexVegas Apr 2018 OP

This divisive tripe has already been posted and removed BeyondGeography Apr 2018 #1

I don't find the voice of this African American female activist local to the area to be divisive. LexVegas Apr 2018 #3

Right! Its fair commentary to be discussed on its merits. Anon-C Apr 2018 #5

Knock yourself out BeyondGeography Apr 2018 #6

That doesn't matter when you consider Cha Apr 2018 #25

You find it "inflammatory" for a black woman to speak? yardwork Apr 2018 #46

yep heaven05 Apr 2018 #53

I do not find her opinion to be divisive either. Tipperary Apr 2018 #24

How DARE a black woman speak ill of Saint Bernie. NT Adrahil Apr 2018 #4

How dare a Jewish man speak in Mississippi. David__77 Apr 2018 #27

I think that you are onto something there. CentralMass Apr 2018 #78

What exactly do you think they're "onto" ? EffieBlack Apr 2018 #82

Do you think I'm Antisemitic? Adrahil Apr 2018 #104

Oh yes, I was OBVIOUSLY being anti Semitic. Adrahil Apr 2018 #103

So Black people who don't like Sanders are anti-Jewish? Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #120

So people who disagree with Laurie Roberts are racist? David__77 Apr 2018 #124

David Clarke is an idiot BeyondGeography Apr 2018 #130

How about this.... Adrahil Apr 2018 #138

I am not advocating for anyone to be disinvited to cookouts. David__77 Apr 2018 #141

Im okay with it. Adrahil Apr 2018 #145

Boom EffieBlack Apr 2018 #154

He has 100 percent ratings from the ACLU and the NAACP BeyondGeography Apr 2018 #160

So do 42 (NAACP) and 17 (ACLU) other Democratic Senators and scores of Democratic House Members EffieBlack Apr 2018 #161

There were "cookouts" in his home state on April 4, too, where most members of Congress.... George II Apr 2018 #179

Nope...not at all. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #163

As a Jew, this claim is so silly that it is funny Gothmog Apr 2018 #133

Straw-man...argument that you'll have to prove exists in the mindset of those with complaints about JCanete Apr 2018 #107

This message was self-deleted by its author David__77 Apr 2018 #113

There is an alert button. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #13

+1,000,000 George II Apr 2018 #74

Divisive? Mad_Mongol Apr 2018 #17

Really? Wow. kcr Apr 2018 #20

This OP was alerted on as well. It is outrageous. Censoring a black female columnist. yardwork Apr 2018 #45

Bravenak heaven05 Apr 2018 #54

I like her so much and miss her. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #122

My OP linking to the same article was alerted and hidden EffieBlack Apr 2018 #81

I hope you will appeal that hide. yardwork Apr 2018 #85

I did. But so far, just crickets EffieBlack Apr 2018 #87

appealing as far as I can tell is entirely pointless. I'm sorry you got a hide. That is frankly, JCanete Apr 2018 #110

I agree EffieBlack Apr 2018 #126

I agree but you should always appeal an unfair hide. I believe that those administering these things Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #165

The appeal was just granted and the OP was restored a few minutes ago EffieBlack Apr 2018 #140

Good! yardwork Apr 2018 #143

Glad to hear this kcr Apr 2018 #166

Excellent news, Effie! sheshe2 Apr 2018 #167

Yeah Gothmog Apr 2018 #178

You should appeal. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #123

I did. No response. EffieBlack Apr 2018 #127

It takes time...a day or two usually and it is the weekend. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #153

It was just restored EffieBlack Apr 2018 #155

Excellent news. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #157

Yup. and it is starting even earlier than I thought obamanut2012 Apr 2018 #172

... betsuni Apr 2018 #55

And Replaced Me. Apr 2018 #168

You can stop saying that now.. Cha Apr 2018 #170

Check again! The link you provided works FINE for me. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #173

The OP you posted is active. LexVegas Apr 2018 #176

Such A Good Read Me. Apr 2018 #2

Views from POC are apparently once again unwelcome on DU. BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #7

Divisive, it seems. nt LexVegas Apr 2018 #8

Excuse me for pointing this out, but you used "once again" The Polack MSgt Apr 2018 #9

Well it's a matter of degree BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #10

Perhaps the voices of Jewish people are also unwelcome on DU. David__77 Apr 2018 #28

Perhaps they are by some on this political site BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #33

excellent response heaven05 Apr 2018 #59

+1 betsuni Apr 2018 #65

I get that some people dont think anti-Semitism is racism. David__77 Apr 2018 #115

Explain how the MLK issue is an example of anti-semitism. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #125

I am glad that youre not anti-Semitic. David__77 Apr 2018 #129

How could I be? I am half Jewish. I was shocked to find out my entire family that lived in Germany Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #152

Thank you for sharing that. David__77 Apr 2018 #156

Thank you for listening. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #162

In the simplistic and nonsensical trinary construct of "race" in the United States BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #149

++100 heaven05 Apr 2018 #180

+1000 excellent post. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #158

As always... sheshe2 Apr 2018 #169

Why do you say that? n/t pnwmom Apr 2018 #34

Point me to an instance of a Jewish columnist being censored on DU. yardwork Apr 2018 #47

"Censorship" is done by governments -- Websites do moderation. whathehell Apr 2018 #51

I have never heaven05 Apr 2018 #57

Well remember BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #94

Anti-Semitism IS racism. David__77 Apr 2018 #112

See this BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #151

I know of a certain Jewish man who is told to shut up or go take a nap. David__77 Apr 2018 #116

You are deflecting...no one on this board disagrees with Sen. Sanders because he is Jewish, but Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #128

Apparently, black women aren't supposed to say anything but praise for white men. yardwork Apr 2018 #35

In America BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #41

I know. I've seen it. It's all through this thread. yardwork Apr 2018 #43

+1000 TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #37

I think the issue is bigger than that BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #48

+++nt heaven05 Apr 2018 #61

only if they heaven05 Apr 2018 #56

Well now that is an interesting observation. BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #58

I just remember heaven05 Apr 2018 #60

Because of my time zone I saw her posts removed in the middle of the night U.S. time. betsuni Apr 2018 #63

shame, lots heaven05 Apr 2018 #69

Yes BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #64

Nope. Adrahil Apr 2018 #105

K&R. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2018 #11

Oddly GaryCnf Apr 2018 #12

You don't get to tell Ms. Roberts how to express herself. yardwork Apr 2018 #36

And yet that is exactly what GaryCnf Apr 2018 #83

Nobody is suppressing your right to post your opinion here. yardwork Apr 2018 #88

No excuse needed GaryCnf Apr 2018 #95

You're welcome. I too choose to be anonymous online. yardwork Apr 2018 #100

Ms. Roberts is a leader of the Mississippi NOW state group Hortensis Apr 2018 #44

???? heaven05 Apr 2018 #62

Great read. Thanks for posting! greatlaurel Apr 2018 #14

Great article and thread Gothmog Apr 2018 #15

Thank you, LexVegas. sheshe2 Apr 2018 #16

Well, Sanders did get to come to the cookout. He was invited to the cookout, so ... JCanete Apr 2018 #18

There certainly is a lot of political sleaze. David__77 Apr 2018 #31

would you cite a source for this statement? WhiteTara Apr 2018 #32

I found that odd too. LiberalFighter Apr 2018 #66

... shanny Apr 2018 #67

Written by BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #76

article cites several surveys shanny Apr 2018 #90

And the surveys are being misstated, as I note upthread. yardwork Apr 2018 #91

I'm on my phone...upthread where? shanny Apr 2018 #93

See this post BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #97

"Surveys" have nothing to do with a result that happened from actual "votes". BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #96

by All Means. Here.... JCanete Apr 2018 #102

well it certainly heaven05 Apr 2018 #68

Good stuff roscoeroscoe Apr 2018 #77

THIS BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #89

Well he didn't do that. Your interpretation, based on his words? or on tweets about his words? is JCanete Apr 2018 #106

oh? heaven05 Apr 2018 #135

are you referencing an official statement? Like I said maybe I missed something. Or are you really JCanete Apr 2018 #146

Your statement is incorrect. yardwork Apr 2018 #80

So the "small group" didn't include politicians who aren't running/can't run? shanny Apr 2018 #98

Why don't you list the choices that were offered here. yardwork Apr 2018 #101

I had to check. sheshe2 Apr 2018 #171

Yes BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #183

Oh my... sheshe2 Apr 2018 #184

Letter from Birmingham Jail Sam McGee Apr 2018 #19

While I think the Bernie side causes problems for the democrats sometimes lancelyons Apr 2018 #21

His message is that racism doesn't matter. Many of us disagree. yardwork Apr 2018 #38

Where does racism come from...? CanSocDem Apr 2018 #79

You can't as my dear old Dad said legislate morality. But you can legislate the hell out of Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #131

This message was self-deleted by its author lancelyons Apr 2018 #22

We'd better listen closely to Black Voices, I think. MineralMan Apr 2018 #23

Considering that black women's votes are winning Democratic elections. yardwork Apr 2018 #39

Yes. I agree. MineralMan Apr 2018 #84

It's time for white Democrats to wake up and stand up. yardwork Apr 2018 #86

Mahalo for posting this, Lex! Cha Apr 2018 #26

So Let Me Get This Straight PaulX2 Apr 2018 #29

If Sanders wants to campaign in Mississippi on the anniversary of MLK's murder, yardwork Apr 2018 #42

try to make heaven05 Apr 2018 #70

I won't argue with this at all GaryCnf Apr 2018 #108

There is less inequality in Briton and France but racism is rampant. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #132

Good illustration GaryCnf Apr 2018 #139

I see your point. I agree with you. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #144

I have no problem heaven05 Apr 2018 #181

Nope the people whom are targets of racism will not share in any economic prosperity until racism is Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #182

Anti-Semitism is racism. David__77 Apr 2018 #30

Then why doesn't Our Revolution bring that up? yardwork Apr 2018 #40

As I posted to you above BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #49

Anti-Semitism is racism. David__77 Apr 2018 #118

See this BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #150

K&R betsuni Apr 2018 #50

truth heaven05 Apr 2018 #52

I have no reason to believe these views are not quite sincerely held by many - including the author Tom Rinaldo Apr 2018 #71

+++nt heaven05 Apr 2018 #75

What is truly sad for us Democrats MaryMagdaline Apr 2018 #72

I don't see this as a problem for Democrats. yardwork Apr 2018 #92

Oh it is a problem for Democrats BeyondGeography Apr 2018 #99

He is not an ally of the Democratic Party and has spoken repeatedly about Identity politics. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #134

When he was in the Senate with Hillary BeyondGeography Apr 2018 #137

I am not talking about voting although that is important. He voted on what was introduced mostly. I Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #148

Honestly, I would have agreed with this article years ago... Sancho Apr 2018 #73

I disagree with your order. YOu can't get equality and justice if you let economics continue to be JCanete Apr 2018 #109

Helping torpedo the TPP was not doing economic justice. ucrdem Apr 2018 #111

TPP and Nafta aren't about economic justice. Interesting that you think otherwise. JCanete Apr 2018 #114

No that's a pernicious myth. 58% of Americans support free trade, including 71% of Hispanics. ucrdem Apr 2018 #117

Is that why these people were involved and spoke at the rally? JCanete Apr 2018 #121

It wasn't a rally, it was a campaign. And if you like tariffs get ready for a feast. nt ucrdem Apr 2018 #175

I think racism breed inequality myself. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #136

racism existed of course, but there was a real need to institutionalize a sense of inferiority JCanete Apr 2018 #142

I am not sure anyone is focusing on economic justice and social justice. I agree with everything you Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #147

That's where we disagree.... Sancho Apr 2018 #164

Bernie is a divider, not a uniter. More ego than accomplishment. PubliusEnigma Apr 2018 #119

If I wanted to find out what his major legislative accomplishments were, where would I look? NurseJackie Apr 2018 #174

I am also curious Gothmog Apr 2018 #177

Bernie was born in 1941 which means Bernie will be or is 77 years old underthematrix Apr 2018 #159