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Response to beachbum bob (Reply #10)

Tue Apr 10, 2018, 12:40 PM

11. Umm....see my very first response in this thread.

The question was whether the investigation can be handed off to the state if all of the activities took place in New York, in order to avoid Trump being able to pardon him.

The answer is NO. The location of the activities has NOTHING to do with whether Trump can pardon the offense.

You essentially said that location might matter. It doesn't as to the question of pardon. Period. (Location matters as to which court has jurisdiction over the person or the subject matter, but not to whether the offense can be pardoned.)

The ONLY thing that influences whether Trump can pardon the offense is whether the crime is a violation of state law (no pardon - as I believe I've said at least 3 times) or federal law (which can be pardoned). Location of the activities is completely irrelevant as to the question of a pardon.

To avoid the offense being pardoned by Trump, the crimes would need to be a violation of a state law. Any state law. A New York law would do it, as would a Connecticut law. But handing off the investigation of a federal crime to New York officials does not transform a federal crime into a state crime merely because all of the activities took place in New York. Or Connecticut. Or any other state. There must be a state crime that he can be charged with. Not all federal crimes have a state counterpart. (The specific campaign financing laws he is being investigated by, for example, expressly alluded to in the OP may not have a state counterpart.)

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