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Spider Jerusalem

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190. The "original source" is Reid's own blog?
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 04:21 PM
Apr 2018

Archived over a decade ago with at least one post contemporaneously linked to from DU. That's the "original source". That's the only source I'm considering in evaluating this. And examining the archives of that blog, and the dates of archival, leads to the inescapable conclusion that those posts were on that blog when it was active, and appeared between 2005 and 2009. Any claims of "hacking" thus fall apart, unless someone was surreptitiously altering existing posts and creating fake ones at the time Reid was maintaining the blog, which is extremely implausible.

Kick and Rec ProfessorGAC Apr 2018 #1
I Hear Ya Roy Rolling Apr 2018 #83
I've been here since Gore v. bush superpatriotman Apr 2018 #2
Same here, except I changed my user name in 2006. GreenEyedLefty Apr 2018 #41
Roger that Drifter Apr 2018 #50
Lurked here after the Horse went down and Democrats.com didn't fill the space bigbrother05 Apr 2018 #70
I wouldn't care if she'd owned it and apologised... Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #3
Why do you say that her excuse is "bzarro"? GoCubsGo Apr 2018 #13
Because her blog is in multiple archives with archival timestamps of over a decade ago. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #17
Has Joy herself put out any statements about this? OneGrassRoot Apr 2018 #31
She's made no comments Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #34
I fully recognize you and others are absolutely convinced these are the facts. OneGrassRoot Apr 2018 #37
I was largely indifferent? I knew her from Twitter. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #49
Okay, thank you for the reply. n/t OneGrassRoot Apr 2018 #54
the point most are making Larrybanal Apr 2018 #200
"incontrovertible" OilemFirchen Apr 2018 #214
Yep. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #215
"incontrovertible" OilemFirchen Apr 2018 #217
The effn world is imploding, surely we have more pressing news then this story. move on! OhNo-Really Apr 2018 #51
Sadly, that's the point of the MSM rage machine. HenryWallace Apr 2018 #150
Why Are You Pushing So Hard Against Joy? Leith Apr 2018 #73
I dunno, calling something you don't like "fake news" belies your argument, I'd say. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #87
I did a search and that person has a bunch of anti-Joy Reid posts in the last few days. Maraya1969 Apr 2018 #99
Yeah, I Know Leith Apr 2018 #104
Yeah, and? Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #105
Just a couple of points: Stonepounder Apr 2018 #122
One of those posts was quoted and linked to from DU in 2007. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #123
Any chance this is a product of the election night DU hack? Were... LAS14 Apr 2018 #235
Yes there's a thread melman Apr 2018 #240
Joy is a POWERFUL voice AGAINST Vladmir Putin, Donald Trump and yes, Bernie Sanders Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #127
Yeah... Leith Apr 2018 #140
I agree with every word you said. But saying it is another thing. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #141
I Agree Leith Apr 2018 #147
Yeah. Wish it didn't have to be that way, but it IS. calimary Apr 2018 #241
Well, she certainly wasn't until her employer told her to be... HenryWallace Apr 2018 #173
Yep Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2018 #218
So, you have more expertise than the guy with 35 yrs counter-intel exp under his belt TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #149
The claims of Reid's neo-Nazi affiliated "security expert" fell apart under examination Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #154
So, you're denying knowing who Malcolm Nance is? TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #160
I hope she's right about the hacking mvd Apr 2018 #116
I'm sure you're holding your breath waiting for Glen Greenward to apologize. TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #142
Greenwald is a scumbag. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #146
But he's one of your sources. Why the double standard? TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #153
He's not one of my sources. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #155
Now you're just being disengeneous, at best. TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #161
I only became aware of it because of the DU shitstorm. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #164
Then I would say you're negligent & haven't done your research. TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #168
Dude.... HenryWallace Apr 2018 #178
No, it's hasn't. TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #180
And there are more.... HenryWallace Apr 2018 #189
The source of the assertions doesn't matter, only their veracity. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #181
The original source's veracity is shit, Joy Reid's is not. That's your problem. TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #187
The "original source" is Reid's own blog? Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #190
The original source is an anonymous Twitter user. TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #192
Nope, the original source is Reid's blog. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #193
If that's your answer, then you really have no clue what a chain of evidence is. TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #204
I am quite aware, thanks. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #210
Sadly, your posts indicate otherwise. TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #212
Not at all. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #213
The verified provenance of the posts in question goes back no further than Apr 18 of this year TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #222
They're also in the Library of Congress archive. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #223
Do you know where the LoC got their archive? From the Internet Archive. TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #224
Probably better than you do? What part of "it's hosted on a separate server" can you not parse? Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #225
And you don't understand data on servers can be copied. TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #226
Except, again, one of the supposedly "hacked" posts... Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #227
Which wasn't the same post as the ones "Maz" "discovered". TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #228
Yeah, it was, in fact. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #230
Could the DU post be part of the hack? Did it produce a thread? nt LAS14 Apr 2018 #236
No and yes (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #238
I do not care what she said years ago, but if it turns out she is lying about it, Tipperary Apr 2018 #4
Precisely! Though I've yet to see convincing evidence that Joy IS lying about being hacked, so InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #201
I don't have a fuck left to give over something as stupid as this leftofcool Apr 2018 #5
Doesn't MSNBC still employ lying Brian Williams? Wtf? elehhhhna Apr 2018 #16
MSNBC also employs Mike Barnicle, who was forced to resign from the oasis Apr 2018 #82
Well said. Zoonart Apr 2018 #24
Yes Rorey Apr 2018 #36
I like this response. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #128
+1111 happy feet Apr 2018 #242
There are many of us who wouldn't want some of our old posts to be revisited Maeve Apr 2018 #6
I dunno, if you have a years-long comment history of casual homophobia... Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #9
Wow. If only we could all aspire to such posting perfection. kcr Apr 2018 #43
I don't know, "not being casually homophobic" seems like a low bar (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #52
K&R. I am going to steal "real rephrensible fuck nuggets." rzemanfl Apr 2018 #7
+1 dalton99a Apr 2018 #20
We've all posted things we probably regret but largely under cover of anonymity... hlthe2b Apr 2018 #8
What I don't understand, if Joy Reid has such a low following, why the hundreds of threads? HipChick Apr 2018 #10
I think you know the answer leftofcool Apr 2018 #21
+1. dalton99a Apr 2018 #27
That's exactly it. Rorey Apr 2018 #39
If she resigns and I suspect she will, that blue wave goes right out the window. leftofcool Apr 2018 #78
What 'certain circles'? kstewart33 Apr 2018 #96
And I'd guess you have no connection or contact HipChick Apr 2018 #132
Let's use logic instead. kstewart33 Apr 2018 #172
Logic and assumptions? I would not take the black vote for granted... HipChick Apr 2018 #188
No, absolutely not. kstewart33 Apr 2018 #208
Nice try. MrsCoffee Apr 2018 #109
Have some raspberries on me! pazzyanne Apr 2018 #118
There's a powerful movement growing right now.. HipChick Apr 2018 #133
Yes, there is. leftofcool Apr 2018 #170
If, in deed, the "Blue Wave" is dependent on .... HenryWallace Apr 2018 #186
I agree with this, I find is ludicrous to say the Blue Wave is dependent on Joy Exotica Apr 2018 #207
Oh Henry. sheshe2 Apr 2018 #231
You realy need to look up the definition of "fact." HenryWallace Apr 2018 #245
That's pretty much the story TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #156
Because she hasn't been a good girl EffieBlack Apr 2018 #61
Joy, like Rachel, is a VERY strong voice against a handful of very powerful people. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #129
Thank you, MrScorpio, for saying exactly what I feel. Glorfindel Apr 2018 #11
I find it non-coincidental this episode broke out on the exact same day ... Hugin Apr 2018 #12
ALWAYS a reason. Those who easily want to believe the worst about Joy, lets just say Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #130
Hear hear! (nt) ehrnst Apr 2018 #14
Its a coordinated lynching. nt LexVegas Apr 2018 #15
I think we should expel Bill Clinton because he didn't declare he got a blow job dalton99a Apr 2018 #18
Nah, some of us are smarter and can see right though to who is behind it. leftofcool Apr 2018 #22
Yeah, we know exactly who is doing this and what their motives are. nt R B Garr Apr 2018 #103
Nailed it malaise Apr 2018 #19
100% grantcart Apr 2018 #23
Joy Reid is an ally and a powerful voice for liberalism. Hortensis Apr 2018 #25
I've been here just a bit longer but I think I have on idea why it matters Blue_Adept Apr 2018 #26
Remember the uncoordinated alert-swarming that didn't happen in 2016? OilemFirchen Apr 2018 #216
There was a reason I took myself out of jury duty for awhile Blue_Adept Apr 2018 #219
Fair point el_bryanto Apr 2018 #28
Agree, and I hope to be even more smart and more aware in another decade Rorey Apr 2018 #47
I remember the time on DU RandiFan1290 Apr 2018 #29
If we did not grow and change, where would we be? kentuck Apr 2018 #30
we'd be republicans NatBurner Apr 2018 #32
Great answer NT Rorey Apr 2018 #48
HUGE K&R n/t OneGrassRoot Apr 2018 #33
I've been here for well over 10 years, myself. I agree. I also think those posts are fake. Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #35
Riding my own train. Rorey Apr 2018 #53
+1. :) nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #183
I've notice lately on DU that it's many of the same DUers eager to get the pitchforks out kcr Apr 2018 #38
I've been tempted to research that myself... OneGrassRoot Apr 2018 #42
If you click on the rectangle with the number in it on any anti-Joy OP, you'll see that. George II Apr 2018 #57
I wrote earlier this week how I seriously had to evolve on Transgendered people. Blue_true Apr 2018 #40
I've had to evolve on gay marriage, transgendered issues, too EffieBlack Apr 2018 #66
Most reasonable people have to evolve on something. Blue_true Apr 2018 #68
This message was self-deleted by its author vi5 Apr 2018 #44
K&R. Nicely put.. Paladin Apr 2018 #45
I didn't support gay marriage back then, perhaps I should throw myself under the bus IronLionZion Apr 2018 #46
Some slaughtering her just like they did Al Franken! mfcorey1 Apr 2018 #55
rat f**king 90-percent Apr 2018 #56
WELL SAID! NT Anon-C Apr 2018 #58
K&R HAB911 Apr 2018 #59
I wish DU had a Big Ole Sloppy Kiss button 'cause I'd be pushing it right now for you! EffieBlack Apr 2018 #60
Yes, any thinking person changes and matures over time. Nitram Apr 2018 #62
If it's irrelevant, why did she come out with an implausible conspiracy? mythology Apr 2018 #63
And you can kiss that blue wave goodbye if she is done. leftofcool Apr 2018 #79
Lol. MrsCoffee Apr 2018 #110
My question is... pazzyanne Apr 2018 #119
I belong to a large powerful group of Black females who are fed up leftofcool Apr 2018 #171
Thank you for the info. pazzyanne Apr 2018 #184
I'm with you 100%. Demit Apr 2018 #64
I always enjoy your writing. Thanks! nt Javaman Apr 2018 #65
Couldn't agree more. Crutchez_CuiBono Apr 2018 #67
K&R betsuni Apr 2018 #69
What you said! MineralMan Apr 2018 #71
I've changed so much over that period of time and even moreso since Ferrets are Cool Apr 2018 #72
If we applied society's standards of today to times gone past... mwooldri Apr 2018 #74
The Dem establishment happily threw Al Franken under the bus. mnhtnbb Apr 2018 #75
And those of that Dem establishment are going to have to work some to get me past that.. BobTheSubgenius Apr 2018 #84
Agree completely! mcar Apr 2018 #76
Hell, Laura Bush killed a kid when she was 17. Didn't impact her career Tarc Apr 2018 #77
I called someone gay in a video game one time... stonecutter357 Apr 2018 #80
i was an army drill sergeant in the 80's NatBurner Apr 2018 #92
Amen. raven mad Apr 2018 #81
Great post Gothmog Apr 2018 #85
Amen, brother. n/t malthaussen Apr 2018 #86
I agree. PatrickforO Apr 2018 #88
K&R... spanone Apr 2018 #89
YES seta1950 Apr 2018 #90
Last night I saw two anti Joy posts and both had the same number of postings and when I looked kimbutgar Apr 2018 #91
+1 dalton99a Apr 2018 #94
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But claiming you are hacked when you are not is a bigger deal. alarimer Apr 2018 #95
In putting that claim next to the claims he way back machine cannot be hacked. I don't believe that bettyellen Apr 2018 #177
I'll be sure to watch more now and buy more from her advertizers judesedit Apr 2018 #97
16 years for me too (with a decade hiatus) GregW Apr 2018 #98
I have to say I agree. Initech Apr 2018 #100
Thank you!!! K&R HootieMcBoob Apr 2018 #101
Well said. still_one Apr 2018 #102
So much stone throwing rather than trying to lift us all. nolabear Apr 2018 #106
K and R BadgerMom Apr 2018 #107
Huge K&R MrsCoffee Apr 2018 #108
I agree, 100%. Thanks for this. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2018 #111
Well said. We all evolve over time, as does nature and the universe. Enoki33 Apr 2018 #112
As a paragon of political correctness, whose had... NNadir Apr 2018 #113
Right on brother! Pepsidog Apr 2018 #114
K&R Scurrilous Apr 2018 #115
from another thread: AMEN! and thanks Mr. S yonder Apr 2018 #117
Agreed! Hacked or not, IDGAF abt JAR's blog 10 years ago! TheDebbieDee Apr 2018 #120
You made me look xxqqqzme Apr 2018 #121
If Joy actually wrote those posts she needs to apologize NOW. Ligyron Apr 2018 #124
Thank you KT2000 Apr 2018 #125
' I changed my mind, I matured and I was convinced by some of you that I needed to change my mind.' elleng Apr 2018 #126
Wholeheartedly agree, ariadne0614 Apr 2018 #131
So Much This ... well said, 100% agree ... mr_lebowski Apr 2018 #134
The question will be is are the voices of the KGB bots, the KGB agents, the GOP agents Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #135
And the gleeful JPR refugees are so annoying. ismnotwasm Apr 2018 #136
She's attractive, no-nonsense, prepared, quick, sincere, and warm: everything the wingnuts hate struggle4progress Apr 2018 #137
Not just the wingnuts it seems... TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #145
"We're in a fight against some real devious bastards..." elocs Apr 2018 #138
I regret that I have only one rec to give to this OP TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #139
I'm with you radical noodle Apr 2018 #143
A huge K & R... revmclaren Apr 2018 #144
I like Joy and will continue to watch her. Lifelong Protester Apr 2018 #148
Pre- kag Apr 2018 #151
Some people have agendas...some people have breathless reactions to the story...some have legitimate JCanete Apr 2018 #152
Intimating gay men prey on teen boys is very much out of line wonkwest Apr 2018 #159
I don't mean to say it was okay or caused no harm, nor that some people didn't use this stuff JCanete Apr 2018 #167
I will apologize though for saying that her worst mistake would have been not owning up now. JCanete Apr 2018 #175
100% spot on Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2018 #229
I'm definitely with yoju on this one. GitRDun Apr 2018 #157
+ a brazillion! nt tblue37 Apr 2018 #158
Two words Lithos Apr 2018 #162
I remember a post I made about twelve years ago where I said Alex Jones was funny & not that bad StrictlyRockers Apr 2018 #163
Watching heterosexuals absolve themselves is, quite frankly, very weird wonkwest Apr 2018 #165
Watch & learn TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #169
I saw it and was not impressed wonkwest Apr 2018 #174
Do you know who Malcolm Nance is? He's not a pundit. TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #176
He also says at 1:05 he isn't going to speak directly about this subject. Why? Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2018 #195
And what does he say after 4:00? TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #206
He is very much a pundit these days wonkwest Apr 2018 #199
OK, a naval cryptology specialist w/35 yrs exp doesn't know anything about computers. OK. TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #205
There is an FBI investigation underway. StrictlyRockers Apr 2018 #209
This message was self-deleted by its author m-lekktor Apr 2018 #203
Great post melman Apr 2018 #234
Well said, MrScorpio. Cracklin Charlie Apr 2018 #166
For almost 30 years, I laughed at Hank Azaria's depiction of Apu on The Simpsons... Dennis Donovan Apr 2018 #179
Excellent post. And very timely analogous observation re: Apu. n/t Tarheel_Dem Apr 2018 #182
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"a decade" Dennis Donovan Apr 2018 #191
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Nonsense... Dennis Donovan Apr 2018 #196
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...hmm, who said it was Russian hackers, anyway? Dennis Donovan Apr 2018 #198
Couldn't agree more. we can do it Apr 2018 #202
Thrilled to K&R! Tarheel_Dem Apr 2018 #211
They got the guns but we got the numbers many a good man Apr 2018 #220
Great post! HipChick Apr 2018 #221
I was here a bit before Dubya tavernier Apr 2018 #232
The egging of the Limo. alphafemale Apr 2018 #233
Not only are we in a fight with some real devious bastards but the stress of populistdriven Apr 2018 #237
Your OP has over 300 recs at this point & I am one of them... Hekate Apr 2018 #239
yeah, but... ellenrr Apr 2018 #243
Still a hit job, no context around why it was quoted. Free Beacon is a extremest site and ... uponit7771 Apr 2018 #244
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