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Oneironaut

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10. Its all socioeconomics. Were no different from ppl in the Middle East, or Africa.

Sat Apr 28, 2018, 09:19 AM

Apr 2018

America’s stability is only due to its Middle Class. The same is true of Europe. The problem is, while American society was more economically blended since post-WWII, we’re now seeing an increasing stratification between the super wealthy and normal people.

When you start shrinking the middle class, and pushing those people into the working poor (or worse, unemployed poor), things start to go out of wack. The absolute worst thing you could have happen is an increase in the number of “military-aged” men who are unemployed and have no job prospects. That means that all-out conflict can break out.

I’m not saying the middle class was destroyed yet, but there is a troubling trend happening now.

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Academics think they've figured out why people voted for Trump and Brexit [View all] Soph0571 Apr 2018 OP

We already know: PROPAGANDA sharedvalues Apr 2018 #1

Yes!!! Thank you. rainin Apr 2018 #4

As someone who works in a big city with fancy media people sharedvalues Apr 2018 #7

I live with one and it is clear as day to me. rainin Apr 2018 #16

How do we get someone to do this? sharedvalues Apr 2018 #18

That's a really good idea! lunatica Apr 2018 #28

Start small :) I bet the NYT or another national paper would publish a letter/oped like this sharedvalues Apr 2018 #29

I agree lunatica Apr 2018 #32

The propaganda is what makes them anxious Bradshaw3 Apr 2018 #27

There is one very good academic study showing Fox is propaganda sharedvalues Apr 2018 #31

Interesting and confirms what one would expect Bradshaw3 Apr 2018 #35

Yup sharedvalues Apr 2018 #38

That's a little too neat and let's people off the hook EffieBlack May 2018 #42

This Meowmee May 2018 #45

How do you explain Murdoch in 1980s UK? Or 1930s Germany? sharedvalues May 2018 #47

Youre not listening Meowmee May 2018 #52

You need both. But propaganda is an essential ingredient. sharedvalues May 2018 #53

Murdoch did the exact same thing in the UK sharedvalues May 2018 #46

They didn't create racism. It's been right there all along. They just exploit it. EffieBlack May 2018 #48

True sharedvalues May 2018 #49

I wonder how many of them have bought a timeshare or something OnDoutside Apr 2018 #2

I'm not sure you can call it xenophobia if the threat is real elias7 Apr 2018 #3

"Melting pot". "Bring me your tired, your poor..." sharedvalues Apr 2018 #8

I was out walking the dog in my downtown Raleigh neighborhood yesterday and overheard mnhtnbb Apr 2018 #11

You should have asked. By the way IluvPitties Apr 2018 #13

And how did the locals feel about that? Igel Apr 2018 #15

So what? The world changes, so does life. IluvPitties Apr 2018 #12

So what? elias7 Apr 2018 #17

I'm also sure "the Native American population felt similarly threatened by the influx of Europeans" EffieBlack May 2018 #44

We need to ask why the growth of minority populations is such a threat lunatica Apr 2018 #30

The xenophobia comes from the assumptions that: meadowlander Apr 2018 #36

You may safely call it xenophobia if it is not in fact, a threat. LanternWaste Apr 2018 #40

The disappearing middle class loyalsister Apr 2018 #5

Shifted the blame away from billionaires- using their propaganda machine sharedvalues Apr 2018 #9

Sort of loyalsister Apr 2018 #14

Many causes of course. But why sharedvalues Apr 2018 #19

Different academic disciplines identify different factors from Hortensis Apr 2018 #6

There is a way sharedvalues Apr 2018 #20

Why do you imagine we didn't? Cannot force people to listen, Hortensis Apr 2018 #23

Write where? sharedvalues Apr 2018 #24

Have a nice day. Hortensis Apr 2018 #25

I'm serious. Counter-propaganda can be effective. It's not instant gratification, but it works. sharedvalues Apr 2018 #26

This is not what I was talking about, but Hortensis Apr 2018 #33

Fair. Yes. You have to speak to liberals and conservatives differently. sharedvalues Apr 2018 #37

Right wing leadership CANNOT message without lying. Hortensis Apr 2018 #39

Interesting analysis sharedvalues May 2018 #41

Its all socioeconomics. Were no different from ppl in the Middle East, or Africa. Oneironaut Apr 2018 #10

New Gilded Age sharedvalues Apr 2018 #21

Short version: they built a better dog whistle ucrdem Apr 2018 #22

Also known as: Marketing to the Reptilian Brain Donkees Apr 2018 #34

anyone want to break it to PRof Mutz that we already knew all this? lol Takket May 2018 #43

Demagoguery is extremely effective Major Nikon May 2018 #50

Like studying the brains of Turbineguy May 2018 #51