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In reply to the discussion: Cui Bono if Joy Ann Reid is taken down? [View all]ehrnst
(32,640 posts)73. I think I got your point.
The women's movement broke off on its own, as you say, and became the weaker for it.
The point of that sentence is pretty clear in what you think are the lack of the "merits" of the women's movement once it separated from the white straight male led Left.
Now you are backpedaling, and have shifted that off to "smaller groups" - I assume you are talking about LGBTQs?
You keep saying "unite!" but you don't clarify how positive discussion, and some dissent means we aren't. Who is supposed to be quiet? Those who point out where privilege, bigotry and misogyny have reared their heads?
I think that the Democratic Party, with it's coalition of various progressive groups is as unified as we need to be - it allows for diversity, and that is our future.
If you are stating that we should be walking lockstep behind a manifesto, say, that of a self-styled, white straight male "visionary," be in Marx or any other, that will not happen. That will make us weaker, frankly. We aren't the tea party. We are diverse, and that is our strength. If you want to talk numbers, the demographic of the leadership of the Left in the 60's is rapidly becoming a minority.
If you think that listening to those coalitions and what they are experiencing, respecting that, and folding it into progressive action is somehow "divisive," that is going backwards, not forward.
That is what I am really saying.
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I will add that I stand AGAINST anyone disseminating this disinformation/fraud on DU
hlthe2b
Apr 2018
#2
It's interesting and instructive to see how quick "liberals" are to throw LGBT people under the bus.
Spider Jerusalem
Apr 2018
#5
There are no comments on the post from a decade ago and there's ghosting of text on those
uponit7771
Apr 2018
#13
The lack of comments is the biggest tell tale, like Maddow saying something inartful about
uponit7771
Apr 2018
#24
Then why are many the same posts in separate web archives with contemporary archival timestamps?
Spider Jerusalem
Apr 2018
#27
Because scraping sites aren't discriminate of the source, her experts are saying her blog could've
uponit7771
Apr 2018
#28
Her blog would've had to've been "hacked" the day after the supposed posts.
Spider Jerusalem
Apr 2018
#30
The Hardaway post isn't the one being screamed over, those don't have ghosting around the text
uponit7771
Apr 2018
#32
Please look at the bigger picture here. This dissent is exactly what they want and will/ are
Thekaspervote
Apr 2018
#40
Please become familiar with how the archive can be spoofed, altered, changed, corrupted:
ecstatic
Apr 2018
#34
Both the Internet Archive and the Library of Congress archive, though?
Spider Jerusalem
Apr 2018
#35
One feeds the other and I don't care whether you buy it or not...as I said before I don't care I Joy
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#71
why wouldn't they have just spoofed comments? I'm not really weighing in here. i think we can wait,
JCanete
Apr 2018
#61
LoC scrapes just like TWBM and any scraping site would pick up the hacked post ...
uponit7771
Apr 2018
#26
And all of the people she was dealing with - her freinds, coworkers, editors & followers
TheSmarterDog
Apr 2018
#31
It's interesting & instructive to see how quick some claiming to support LGBT people are
TheSmarterDog
Apr 2018
#9
It is interesting and instructive to see how quickly "liberals" demand a friend's head
TomSlick
Apr 2018
#10
Wow. It is interesting how fast you grabbed for the moral high ground option.
Blue_true
Apr 2018
#15
You disappoint me. It was also "interesting and instructive" how quick LGBT DUers were to claim...
Hekate
Apr 2018
#47
I mostly remember Obama saying "marriage is between a man and a woman"
Spider Jerusalem
Apr 2018
#48
From where I sit, I watched the methodical working-out of a plan to change the laws...
Hekate
Apr 2018
#49
It i interesting to see how some want to throw a good progressive under the bus for remarks made
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#69
I see there are several ... call them kumbaya threads being posted on DU over this.
TheSmarterDog
Apr 2018
#7