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Hortensis

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44. They ARE half this country, though, Cosmo. There's no "indulgence."
Mon May 7, 2018, 06:59 AM
May 2018

1. We now know that people tend to choose their political group and as part of that group choose to accept its leaders and then adopt the positions of that group's leaders. Shockingly, it's not vice versa. Group and leaders first, then positions, changing as instructed by the leaders they accepted. Sure, some are more independent thinkers, but more are not and most conservatives are especially vulnerable.

2. The leadership on the right has been taken over by wealthy archconservatives and stocked with politicians who serve their interests by institutionalizing corruption. They work through the right because they're more in line ideologically and more vulnerable to bad leadership. But these are the people who tell Republican voters what to think and support.

Trump's an anomaly, a voter rebellion against the wealthy string-pullers, but they've got him half harnessed and, by surrounding him mostly with their people and horse-whispering through Fox, etc., largely working for them. And the vast majority of Republican voters follow him as their leader.

3. Today, needless to say, Repub voters are responding to terrible leadership. But this has been going on for years, molding them into almost the worst possible versions of their political selves. Under good leadership, they would behave very differently, as good leaders encouraged.

4. We can't take this current crop of leaders out and shoot them, we have to try, try, try again to vote them out. But that's not "indulging" anything. This tsunami of right-wing corruption at all levels from president down to and including their voters happened overwhelmingly on the right and is THEIR doing and their fault. Not ours.

5. It did not happen on the left, although they're working hard to turn enough of our our voters into tools to stop us right now. They succeeded in 2016.

6. COUNTDOWN TO PUTTING PRINCIPLED DEMOCRATS IN CONTROL OF CONGRESS: 182 days.

The gop frauds deserve every thing we throw at them. Treason infects many of them. BSdetect May 2018 #1
Let's not overlook the stunning fact that all Solomon May 2018 #34
Yes! Victor_c3 May 2018 #40
30 years of the phony walll-to-wall investigations with 0 indictments would Hortensis May 2018 #2
To say nothing about their reopening the investigations on Hillary. pazzyanne May 2018 #20
Just be glad they can't stone her in the street. Hortensis May 2018 #37
In this country indulge is them every GD time Cosmocat May 2018 #43
They ARE half this country, though, Cosmo. There's no "indulgence." Hortensis May 2018 #44
Replies Cosmocat May 2018 #47
Lol to #5, but yes. We are basically in agreement. Hortensis May 2018 #50
In all fairness NewJeffCT May 2018 #51
And in fairness, Whitewater should never have been about the Clintons. Hortensis May 2018 #52
Wow pretty startling coming from Dowd Pepsidog May 2018 #3
No kidding. calimary May 2018 #5
Actually I confused Matthew Dowd with Kevin Dowd Maureen's Brother Pepsidog May 2018 #6
But Matthew Dowd has his own issues calimary May 2018 #7
Proof positive the DEEP STATE ... Martin Eden May 2018 #4
Yup, that will be what the response is. dameatball May 2018 #22
That's exactly it. progressoid May 2018 #32
And it ain't over! Fritz Walter May 2018 #8
"Rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic"... LMAO! lambchopp59 May 2018 #9
At least the Titanic had a band Haggis for Breakfast May 2018 #38
K&R Scurrilous May 2018 #10
Simple - those associated with Clinton were genuine witch hunts malaise May 2018 #11
And they're not done bitching about it yet! SergeStorms May 2018 #12
They live in their own made up reality malaise May 2018 #13
I still see people online who are calling for investigation of the Uranium One deal even though Arkansas Granny May 2018 #29
The first one lasted 8 years and cost $100 Million taxpayer dollars Major Nikon May 2018 #14
Who do you think got most of that money malaise May 2018 #23
Law firms closely allied with the GOP Major Nikon May 2018 #26
Nicely stated malaise May 2018 #27
They always were. joshcryer May 2018 #45
Stunning and true NastyRiffraff May 2018 #15
Really.. something done right takes time.. the longer it's taking Cha May 2018 #42
As the cowardly lion said: "Ain't it the truth! Ain't it the truth!" Lots of cowards... NNadir May 2018 #16
Thanks, I'm going to be using the that gem a lot. marble falls May 2018 #17
Battle Stations... SayItLoud May 2018 #18
Witch hunt, indeed rock May 2018 #19
wow Demovictory9 May 2018 #21
Gee, I wonder who the real criminals are in this picture? Initech May 2018 #24
Thanks for reminding us of these facts. It does get hard to keep perspective with the shitstorm Nitram May 2018 #25
That's why the repubs want these investigations shut down. Turbineguy May 2018 #28
You could be onto something there. Arkansas Granny May 2018 #30
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe May 2018 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author progressoid May 2018 #33
Now THAT'S perspective! nt Honeycombe8 May 2018 #35
drumpf's always thumping his chest about the best numbers. yonder May 2018 #36
whitewater. all they got was a blow job. pansypoo53219 May 2018 #39
Reality, baby! Cha May 2018 #41
Fake News FAAAKE NEEEWS!!!! That is all the Democrats can do. N/T with a bit of sarcasm for flavor jimmil May 2018 #46
Another DU gem I'll repeat duhneece May 2018 #48
Yes, it's a good piece of info to keep on hand. Arkansas Granny May 2018 #49
k and r...nt...for exposure. Stuart G May 2018 #53
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