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GulfCoast66

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Wed May 9, 2018, 08:18 PM

May 2018

Progressives have a very spotty history and my FDR style Southern Democratic father fought against democratic progressives how supported the likes of Huey Long. And ole Woodrow Wilson was a progressive.

I am by no means putting all modern day self identified progressive in that category. But to many Democrats it has a meaning that cannot be erased.

Historically progressives only focused on economic issues and social issues be damned. 3 years ago I thought the title might have been rehabilitated. Then I watched a bunch of progressives boo John Lewis almost off a stage.

If you call yourself a progressive and this sounds wrong to you, please read some history. But we Southerners, and I would guess African-American Southerners remember as well. Not trying to speak for African-Americans and if I’m wrong I apologize.

I am a liberal Democrat. Do not call me a progressive.

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Bernie Sanders stumps for Ben Jealous in Maryland [View all] ehrnst May 2018 OP

I think there are enough people to get a game going. NCTraveler May 2018 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst May 2018 #2

Who is "shirts" and who is "skins"? George II May 2018 #5

Oh dear. NurseJackie May 2018 #3

Here's another: ehrnst May 2018 #4

Imagine where our party could be if we had ONE Voice, ONE leader and Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #27

Exactly. This kind of stuff pisses me off 😡 arthritisR_US May 2018 #34

How do we choose such a leader? Who would that be? pampango May 2018 #41

Real easy, someone like Pelosi could lead us until we remove ACTUAL NAZIS from the WH Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #43

She certainly could. As could Schumer, Clinton and many others. pampango May 2018 #47

Well, some who would like to lead liberals seem to think that any ehrnst May 2018 #48

BUT, they can't be TOO liberal or else Republicans won't like them and we'll need to get rid of them EffieBlack May 2018 #53

Yeah, unless it's Pelosi - then the rules all change. ehrnst May 2018 #58

Oh? Did they change the rules for Pelosi? EffieBlack May 2018 #59

Periodically they do. ehrnst May 2018 #63

Ahh EffieBlack May 2018 #67

A rapidly shrinking portion of the party ehrnst May 2018 #70

I fail to see why an independent is involving himself in Democratic primaries...I just don't Demsrule86 May 2018 #85

I welcome independents to our party and to our primary process as long as they agree to support pampango May 2018 #88

I don't. I believe in closed primaries. And those who are not members should not endorse anyone. Demsrule86 May 2018 #99

One people, one nation, one leader? Jim Lane May 2018 #84

Well, I did hear that millions watched the event on digital media outlets. lapucelle May 2018 #81

An easy and unprovable claim. Demsrule86 May 2018 #86

And millions looked at the tweet photos... NurseJackie May 2018 #89

Fives of people turned out for the rally! MineralMan May 2018 #6

... mcar May 2018 #52

I just couldn't help it..... Tarheel_Dem May 2018 #79

Last I heard... sheshe2 May 2018 #101

Lies! Not in any universe I've ever heard of. Tarheel_Dem May 2018 #104

Bwahahahaha!!!!!!! sheshe2 May 2018 #106

hahaha...This gives me hope that even if Sen. Sanders runs, it won't hurt us in 20. Demsrule86 May 2018 #87

.... Kahuna7 May 2018 #105

Is that all of the crowd? Gothmog May 2018 #7

Jealous for big rallies. betsuni May 2018 #8

Just so I understand completely Cuthbert Allgood May 2018 #9

Who is saying either of those things here? ehrnst May 2018 #10

So the responses above me aren't about the size of the group? Cuthbert Allgood May 2018 #12

The posts above said neither thing that you accused them of. ehrnst May 2018 #17

OK. That's the game we are playing. Cuthbert Allgood May 2018 #38

I had no idea that my posts held that kind of power to influence votes! ehrnst May 2018 #42

IKR? EffieBlack May 2018 #60

We'll have to discuss this at the coven - er... Book club meeing. ehrnst May 2018 #64

Shhhh! EffieBlack May 2018 #68

One - I never knew you had that power JustAnotherGen May 2018 #91

But I am a Democrat and liberal, I am NOT a progressive and this is Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #28

Well, that's an odd distinction. Cuthbert Allgood May 2018 #37

Not at all odd. If one is a liberal one does not need to say they are also Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #40

"a liberal one does not need to say they are also progressive. " sunRISEnow May 2018 #50

The label of "progressive" has morphed into something that it didn't use to mean. ehrnst May 2018 #44

It's kinda funny, I've received a ton of shit from a few here for merely observing that... InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #77

thanks Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #94

Thank you, thank you, thank you GulfCoast66 May 2018 #78

Indeed, well stated Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #95

not really...you only posted this to be snarky. You know it. The poster made a good point there. Are JCanete May 2018 #56

Let us count the strawmen here... ehrnst May 2018 #62

what are your intentions? And no, I actually said what I meant. I said I don't necessarily endorse JCanete May 2018 #65

"support or lack-thereof doesn't in itself indicate whether or not there should be support for a ehrnst May 2018 #72

Crowds are an indication of the support a candidate has.... George II May 2018 #66

totally agree...and? The point here was to what...draw attention to a candidate who needs more JCanete May 2018 #71

Circular logic... you blame a candidate's "lack of support" on ehrnst May 2018 #73

That is not what I was saying at all. I was saying that his popularity showed JCanete May 2018 #96

So you are shifting your definition of support.... ehrnst May 2018 #97

A politician with no money has no chance. A politician with a little JCanete May 2018 #98

Do you have an example of this? (nt) ehrnst May 2018 #100

do you have an example of an avowed socialist ever getting big corporate funding? JCanete May 2018 #102

I see that your rant is about a specific candidate not getting the funding you think he should have. ehrnst May 2018 #107

how could it be about Sanders? Granted there aren't many socialists around, but JCanete May 2018 #110

You seem to think that I implied being a millionaire is "bad." Another strawman ehrnst May 2018 #111

well first, Sanders advocacy isn't one that removes capitalism from the picture, so whatever JCanete May 2018 #112

Nobody is saying that. Nobody is doing that. NurseJackie May 2018 #11

Sure they aren't Cuthbert Allgood May 2018 #13

Her post speaks for itself. ehrnst May 2018 #16

Why? Please tell me what's unclear about that post. NurseJackie May 2018 #22

Continue doing what you are doing. Cuthbert Allgood May 2018 #39

Again, you bestow anyone who disagrees with you on DU with the power to destroy Democrats, and ehrnst May 2018 #45

Oh good God! GMAFB! NurseJackie May 2018 #74

You can't fix stupid... tonedevil May 2018 #82

Sooooo. sheshe2 May 2018 #103

I think that you give these posts way, way more power over elections ehrnst May 2018 #109

This wasn't a small event. This was a big venue and very few people showed up lunamagica May 2018 #57

Post removed Post removed May 2018 #14

A photo of Sanders at a rally "serves only one purpose?" ehrnst May 2018 #15

Post removed Post removed May 2018 #20

My, you got up on the wrong side of the bed, didn't you? ehrnst May 2018 #21

Gone! NurseJackie May 2018 #75

**** Cha May 2018 #76

Hey there, you! NurseJackie May 2018 #80

Howdy Ms Jackie! Cha May 2018 #83

OH! My! R B Garr May 2018 #93

.... ehrnst May 2018 #108

Your attempt to make this personal is amusing, just like the R B Garr May 2018 #23

... ehrnst May 2018 #25

Yes. And not just me. nt R B Garr May 2018 #26

WT holy FUCK? Unsolicited emails? Do you mean PM's? Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #29

Yes. nt R B Garr May 2018 #36

A former member used to do that to me... NurseJackie May 2018 #90

I think I know who you mean, and had a similar experience. R B Garr May 2018 #92

Do you have any opinion about Ben Jealous as a candidate for that office? Tom Rinaldo May 2018 #18

I'm not a Maryland resident, and don't know enough about what is going on in MD ehrnst May 2018 #19

"Do you have any opinion about Ben Jealous as a candidate for that office?" NCTraveler May 2018 #35

I have aleays found him to be rather superficial and an aggressive self promoter, just my opinion. grantcart May 2018 #51

I guess the tell would be if he gets things accomplished or not. sunRISEnow May 2018 #54

He wasn't president of the NAACP long enough to do much, but his role in pushing Shirley Sherrod out EffieBlack May 2018 #61

Good for him (sincerely) mythology May 2018 #24

Omgoodness. Surely this is fake. sunRISEnow May 2018 #30

Welcome to DU! No, this is not fake. ehrnst May 2018 #33

I was under the impression Bernie has the ability to have a much large draw with crowds. sunRISEnow May 2018 #49

A politician's personal strength often doesn't translate to support for others RandySF May 2018 #31

I'm supporting Rich Madaleno for Governor Orangepeel May 2018 #32

It's rumored that the Fire Marshal asked the duo for a selfie on his way out. oasis May 2018 #46

. George II May 2018 #69

The bloom is off the rose... lunamagica May 2018 #55