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JCanete

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96. That is not what I was saying at all. I was saying that his popularity showed

Thu May 10, 2018, 02:10 PM

May 2018

that he may in fact be able to help move the dialogue in a direction towards things that me and hortensis seemed to be aligned on. That he had brought some of these talking points to the forefront of political discussion.

What do you mean by fitness? Popularity as justification in and of itself for a candidate? Popular therefore good? Or viability? Those are two very different things. As to the latter, of course name recognition and popularity matters. It doesn't mean that somebody achieved it for the right reasons, since money buys exposure.

And no, there's nothing circular about pointing out that financial support(by the few) is often the progeneter of larger public support. Please don't try to tell me money doesn't have a significant footprint in politics.

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Bernie Sanders stumps for Ben Jealous in Maryland [View all] ehrnst May 2018 OP

I think there are enough people to get a game going. NCTraveler May 2018 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst May 2018 #2

Who is "shirts" and who is "skins"? George II May 2018 #5

Oh dear. NurseJackie May 2018 #3

Here's another: ehrnst May 2018 #4

Imagine where our party could be if we had ONE Voice, ONE leader and Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #27

Exactly. This kind of stuff pisses me off 😡 arthritisR_US May 2018 #34

How do we choose such a leader? Who would that be? pampango May 2018 #41

Real easy, someone like Pelosi could lead us until we remove ACTUAL NAZIS from the WH Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #43

She certainly could. As could Schumer, Clinton and many others. pampango May 2018 #47

Well, some who would like to lead liberals seem to think that any ehrnst May 2018 #48

BUT, they can't be TOO liberal or else Republicans won't like them and we'll need to get rid of them EffieBlack May 2018 #53

Yeah, unless it's Pelosi - then the rules all change. ehrnst May 2018 #58

Oh? Did they change the rules for Pelosi? EffieBlack May 2018 #59

Periodically they do. ehrnst May 2018 #63

Ahh EffieBlack May 2018 #67

A rapidly shrinking portion of the party ehrnst May 2018 #70

I fail to see why an independent is involving himself in Democratic primaries...I just don't Demsrule86 May 2018 #85

I welcome independents to our party and to our primary process as long as they agree to support pampango May 2018 #88

I don't. I believe in closed primaries. And those who are not members should not endorse anyone. Demsrule86 May 2018 #99

One people, one nation, one leader? Jim Lane May 2018 #84

Well, I did hear that millions watched the event on digital media outlets. lapucelle May 2018 #81

An easy and unprovable claim. Demsrule86 May 2018 #86

And millions looked at the tweet photos... NurseJackie May 2018 #89

Fives of people turned out for the rally! MineralMan May 2018 #6

... mcar May 2018 #52

I just couldn't help it..... Tarheel_Dem May 2018 #79

Last I heard... sheshe2 May 2018 #101

Lies! Not in any universe I've ever heard of. Tarheel_Dem May 2018 #104

Bwahahahaha!!!!!!! sheshe2 May 2018 #106

hahaha...This gives me hope that even if Sen. Sanders runs, it won't hurt us in 20. Demsrule86 May 2018 #87

.... Kahuna7 May 2018 #105

Is that all of the crowd? Gothmog May 2018 #7

Jealous for big rallies. betsuni May 2018 #8

Just so I understand completely Cuthbert Allgood May 2018 #9

Who is saying either of those things here? ehrnst May 2018 #10

So the responses above me aren't about the size of the group? Cuthbert Allgood May 2018 #12

The posts above said neither thing that you accused them of. ehrnst May 2018 #17

OK. That's the game we are playing. Cuthbert Allgood May 2018 #38

I had no idea that my posts held that kind of power to influence votes! ehrnst May 2018 #42

IKR? EffieBlack May 2018 #60

We'll have to discuss this at the coven - er... Book club meeing. ehrnst May 2018 #64

Shhhh! EffieBlack May 2018 #68

One - I never knew you had that power JustAnotherGen May 2018 #91

But I am a Democrat and liberal, I am NOT a progressive and this is Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #28

Well, that's an odd distinction. Cuthbert Allgood May 2018 #37

Not at all odd. If one is a liberal one does not need to say they are also Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #40

"a liberal one does not need to say they are also progressive. " sunRISEnow May 2018 #50

The label of "progressive" has morphed into something that it didn't use to mean. ehrnst May 2018 #44

It's kinda funny, I've received a ton of shit from a few here for merely observing that... InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #77

thanks Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #94

Thank you, thank you, thank you GulfCoast66 May 2018 #78

Indeed, well stated Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #95

not really...you only posted this to be snarky. You know it. The poster made a good point there. Are JCanete May 2018 #56

Let us count the strawmen here... ehrnst May 2018 #62

what are your intentions? And no, I actually said what I meant. I said I don't necessarily endorse JCanete May 2018 #65

"support or lack-thereof doesn't in itself indicate whether or not there should be support for a ehrnst May 2018 #72

Crowds are an indication of the support a candidate has.... George II May 2018 #66

totally agree...and? The point here was to what...draw attention to a candidate who needs more JCanete May 2018 #71

Circular logic... you blame a candidate's "lack of support" on ehrnst May 2018 #73

That is not what I was saying at all. I was saying that his popularity showed JCanete May 2018 #96

So you are shifting your definition of support.... ehrnst May 2018 #97

A politician with no money has no chance. A politician with a little JCanete May 2018 #98

Do you have an example of this? (nt) ehrnst May 2018 #100

do you have an example of an avowed socialist ever getting big corporate funding? JCanete May 2018 #102

I see that your rant is about a specific candidate not getting the funding you think he should have. ehrnst May 2018 #107

how could it be about Sanders? Granted there aren't many socialists around, but JCanete May 2018 #110

You seem to think that I implied being a millionaire is "bad." Another strawman ehrnst May 2018 #111

well first, Sanders advocacy isn't one that removes capitalism from the picture, so whatever JCanete May 2018 #112

Nobody is saying that. Nobody is doing that. NurseJackie May 2018 #11

Sure they aren't Cuthbert Allgood May 2018 #13

Her post speaks for itself. ehrnst May 2018 #16

Why? Please tell me what's unclear about that post. NurseJackie May 2018 #22

Continue doing what you are doing. Cuthbert Allgood May 2018 #39

Again, you bestow anyone who disagrees with you on DU with the power to destroy Democrats, and ehrnst May 2018 #45

Oh good God! GMAFB! NurseJackie May 2018 #74

You can't fix stupid... tonedevil May 2018 #82

Sooooo. sheshe2 May 2018 #103

I think that you give these posts way, way more power over elections ehrnst May 2018 #109

This wasn't a small event. This was a big venue and very few people showed up lunamagica May 2018 #57

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A photo of Sanders at a rally "serves only one purpose?" ehrnst May 2018 #15

Post removed Post removed May 2018 #20

My, you got up on the wrong side of the bed, didn't you? ehrnst May 2018 #21

Gone! NurseJackie May 2018 #75

**** Cha May 2018 #76

Hey there, you! NurseJackie May 2018 #80

Howdy Ms Jackie! Cha May 2018 #83

OH! My! R B Garr May 2018 #93

.... ehrnst May 2018 #108

Your attempt to make this personal is amusing, just like the R B Garr May 2018 #23

... ehrnst May 2018 #25

Yes. And not just me. nt R B Garr May 2018 #26

WT holy FUCK? Unsolicited emails? Do you mean PM's? Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #29

Yes. nt R B Garr May 2018 #36

A former member used to do that to me... NurseJackie May 2018 #90

I think I know who you mean, and had a similar experience. R B Garr May 2018 #92

Do you have any opinion about Ben Jealous as a candidate for that office? Tom Rinaldo May 2018 #18

I'm not a Maryland resident, and don't know enough about what is going on in MD ehrnst May 2018 #19

"Do you have any opinion about Ben Jealous as a candidate for that office?" NCTraveler May 2018 #35

I have aleays found him to be rather superficial and an aggressive self promoter, just my opinion. grantcart May 2018 #51

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He wasn't president of the NAACP long enough to do much, but his role in pushing Shirley Sherrod out EffieBlack May 2018 #61

Good for him (sincerely) mythology May 2018 #24

Omgoodness. Surely this is fake. sunRISEnow May 2018 #30

Welcome to DU! No, this is not fake. ehrnst May 2018 #33

I was under the impression Bernie has the ability to have a much large draw with crowds. sunRISEnow May 2018 #49

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It's rumored that the Fire Marshal asked the duo for a selfie on his way out. oasis May 2018 #46

. George II May 2018 #69

The bloom is off the rose... lunamagica May 2018 #55