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In reply to the discussion: Bernie Sanders stumps for Ben Jealous in Maryland [View all]JCanete
(5,272 posts)110. how could it be about Sanders? Granted there aren't many socialists around, but
Sanders brought in tons of money from small donors. He was the exception to the typical tree falling in the forest conundrum. I should not have said socialist because there are so very few to even draw from, but then that's because socialists rarely make a peep given the amplification required to do so. I should have said any politician who is considered an enemy to the elite or to "business." Anybody who is not simply going to try to work within Washington with these companies to reign in their excesses, but is going to take that message to the people, will not get a dime and if they make enough noise somehow, many dimes will be spent destroying them. Sure, if somehow they manage to get the GE nom anyway then some money may flow in as a hedging of bets, but I doubt it. I'm pretty sure if Sanders had gotten the nod we would have seen some serious scorched earth(and that isn't meant to belittle the damage the media did to Clinton, its a statement more to the fact that Clinton who would have been a capable, knowledgeable and responsible leader, would have come in to work with the system as it is, whereas Sanders would have tried to put a wrench in it and would have made it a war, and being fair, would probably have lost that war.)
Really though, while I agree with you that misogyny played a role in how Clinton has been attacked over the years, and would agree that it certainly affected those voters who have absurdly patriarchal views about what a woman should be or is capable of and even many who don't realize they have that bias and are perfectly oblivious to the sexism intrinsic in attacks of "shrill" or those going to Clinton's appearance, etc., the trend is the same. If you are a democrat the media will find some reason to drag you though the mud, and it will not do the same thing to Republicans. Hell, Palin...also a woman. It happened with Kerry, it happened with Gore, Dean, it was tried with Obama with Reverend Wright (he was just uniquely up to the challenge and there was precious little else they could find), I assume it happened with Bill pre Lewinsky, but certainly during.
Also, if you can point to an argument somebody has made about millionaires automatically being bad people for being millionaires, or to anybody saying that there should be no millionaires , I suggest you do so. Sanders book put him over into the millionaire mark. That is first, nowhere near billionaire status and I don't even know that anybody is saying billionaires should not be possible, and second, has nothing at all to do with whether or not he supports a progressive tax, or more taxes on millionaires and billionaires or regulations on how they do business. This is the kind of take-down the right engages in..and I'm not accusing you here of being of the right, but don't you remember that old term limousine liberal? The point being you can't have wealth and still rail against inequality, because doing so automatically makes you a hypocrite?
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Real easy, someone like Pelosi could lead us until we remove ACTUAL NAZIS from the WH
Eliot Rosewater
May 2018
#43
BUT, they can't be TOO liberal or else Republicans won't like them and we'll need to get rid of them
EffieBlack
May 2018
#53
I fail to see why an independent is involving himself in Democratic primaries...I just don't
Demsrule86
May 2018
#85
I welcome independents to our party and to our primary process as long as they agree to support
pampango
May 2018
#88
I don't. I believe in closed primaries. And those who are not members should not endorse anyone.
Demsrule86
May 2018
#99
hahaha...This gives me hope that even if Sen. Sanders runs, it won't hurt us in 20.
Demsrule86
May 2018
#87
Not at all odd. If one is a liberal one does not need to say they are also
Eliot Rosewater
May 2018
#40
The label of "progressive" has morphed into something that it didn't use to mean.
ehrnst
May 2018
#44
It's kinda funny, I've received a ton of shit from a few here for merely observing that...
InAbLuEsTaTe
May 2018
#77
not really...you only posted this to be snarky. You know it. The poster made a good point there. Are
JCanete
May 2018
#56
what are your intentions? And no, I actually said what I meant. I said I don't necessarily endorse
JCanete
May 2018
#65
"support or lack-thereof doesn't in itself indicate whether or not there should be support for a
ehrnst
May 2018
#72
totally agree...and? The point here was to what...draw attention to a candidate who needs more
JCanete
May 2018
#71
do you have an example of an avowed socialist ever getting big corporate funding?
JCanete
May 2018
#102
I see that your rant is about a specific candidate not getting the funding you think he should have.
ehrnst
May 2018
#107
how could it be about Sanders? Granted there aren't many socialists around, but
JCanete
May 2018
#110
You seem to think that I implied being a millionaire is "bad." Another strawman
ehrnst
May 2018
#111
well first, Sanders advocacy isn't one that removes capitalism from the picture, so whatever
JCanete
May 2018
#112
Again, you bestow anyone who disagrees with you on DU with the power to destroy Democrats, and
ehrnst
May 2018
#45
This wasn't a small event. This was a big venue and very few people showed up
lunamagica
May 2018
#57
I have aleays found him to be rather superficial and an aggressive self promoter, just my opinion.
grantcart
May 2018
#51
He wasn't president of the NAACP long enough to do much, but his role in pushing Shirley Sherrod out
EffieBlack
May 2018
#61
I was under the impression Bernie has the ability to have a much large draw with crowds.
sunRISEnow
May 2018
#49