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In reply to the discussion: Bernie Sanders stumps for Ben Jealous in Maryland [View all]JCanete
(5,272 posts)112. well first, Sanders advocacy isn't one that removes capitalism from the picture, so whatever
his own Democratic Socialism is, doesn't necessarily seem to be a direct contradiction to any capitalistic mechanisms, but second, this is the society we do live in. One person could choose to live by their own values ...maybe go off and live on a commune...but you could instead, live one way and still advocate for a world that is different. In fact, going off and living in your little micro-culture would make you less capable of engaging in the work of making change.
I would also say Sanders has mostly been above that. There are those who go where the money is, and there are those who stick to their art or principles or whatever, and just happen to win by doing so. In Sanders case, he's been in politics many many long years, and you can make a lot of rich powerful friends in politics, particularly if you aren't going around alienating them. Only now at this late hour has he really cashed in, and its not exactly because he's hopped onto some new bandwagon.
By the way, I'm not attempting to put words in your mouth...I'm trying to get at what you are saying. I'm trying to figure out what your point is, and sometimes I take a stab at it when it seems to point a certain way. I'm all for being corrected if I'm wrong. I'm not sure that that is strawmanning.
As to what other people have said about wealth being a deal breaker, the problem is that that has never come out of my mouth nor is it my sentiment. I believe you that somebody here said it. That seems more like a strawman than anything I"ve said, because it represents only random people who's posts were removed. Now, how a person has made his millions or billions, or how that person has used them towards what ends is important. Whether a person's advocacy seems soft on his own wealthy demographic is important.
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Real easy, someone like Pelosi could lead us until we remove ACTUAL NAZIS from the WH
Eliot Rosewater
May 2018
#43
BUT, they can't be TOO liberal or else Republicans won't like them and we'll need to get rid of them
EffieBlack
May 2018
#53
I fail to see why an independent is involving himself in Democratic primaries...I just don't
Demsrule86
May 2018
#85
I welcome independents to our party and to our primary process as long as they agree to support
pampango
May 2018
#88
I don't. I believe in closed primaries. And those who are not members should not endorse anyone.
Demsrule86
May 2018
#99
hahaha...This gives me hope that even if Sen. Sanders runs, it won't hurt us in 20.
Demsrule86
May 2018
#87
Not at all odd. If one is a liberal one does not need to say they are also
Eliot Rosewater
May 2018
#40
The label of "progressive" has morphed into something that it didn't use to mean.
ehrnst
May 2018
#44
It's kinda funny, I've received a ton of shit from a few here for merely observing that...
InAbLuEsTaTe
May 2018
#77
not really...you only posted this to be snarky. You know it. The poster made a good point there. Are
JCanete
May 2018
#56
what are your intentions? And no, I actually said what I meant. I said I don't necessarily endorse
JCanete
May 2018
#65
"support or lack-thereof doesn't in itself indicate whether or not there should be support for a
ehrnst
May 2018
#72
totally agree...and? The point here was to what...draw attention to a candidate who needs more
JCanete
May 2018
#71
do you have an example of an avowed socialist ever getting big corporate funding?
JCanete
May 2018
#102
I see that your rant is about a specific candidate not getting the funding you think he should have.
ehrnst
May 2018
#107
how could it be about Sanders? Granted there aren't many socialists around, but
JCanete
May 2018
#110
You seem to think that I implied being a millionaire is "bad." Another strawman
ehrnst
May 2018
#111
well first, Sanders advocacy isn't one that removes capitalism from the picture, so whatever
JCanete
May 2018
#112
Again, you bestow anyone who disagrees with you on DU with the power to destroy Democrats, and
ehrnst
May 2018
#45
This wasn't a small event. This was a big venue and very few people showed up
lunamagica
May 2018
#57
I have aleays found him to be rather superficial and an aggressive self promoter, just my opinion.
grantcart
May 2018
#51
He wasn't president of the NAACP long enough to do much, but his role in pushing Shirley Sherrod out
EffieBlack
May 2018
#61
I was under the impression Bernie has the ability to have a much large draw with crowds.
sunRISEnow
May 2018
#49