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sheshe2

(83,349 posts)
Sun May 13, 2018, 10:05 PM May 2018

How Bernie Sanders Helped Derail a Promising Legal Fight Against Gun Violence [View all]

The most viable effort in decades to stem the flow of guns onto the black market ended with the immunity bill Sanders helped pass.

[/b]In the fall of 2005, the city of New York was preparing a mammoth lawsuit against 14 gun manufacturers and 27 distributors and dealers. The suit set out to prove that the gun industry bore a responsibility for the volume of guns illegally trafficked into the city.

To make its case, the city had marshaled significant evidence showing that gun manufacturers were unwilling to take simple steps to keep their guns out of criminals’ hands—
and even knowingly fed the criminal gun market. The lawsuit highlighted federal data from 1996 to 1998 that had traced more than 34,000 guns used to perpetrate crimes back to just 137 dealers. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms informed gun manufacturers every time a gun used in a crime was traced to their companies, information that would have made it easy for manufacturers to determine which of their distributors and dealers were supplying the black market, yet manufacturers continued to sell guns to those “bad apple” dealers.

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“New York was a very strong case,” says Jonathan Lowy, an attorney at the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence who worked on the case. “We were completely ready for trial.”

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]Sanders, who hails from a rural state with lax gun laws, has defended his vote as a way to protect the “small mom-and-pop gun shop” in Vermont from frivolous lawsuits.

But Sanders’ argument obfuscates the true impact of his vote—namely, that the lawsuits he helped derail once represented the most viable effort in decades to stem the flow of guns onto the black market.


https://www.cnn.com/2015/04/29/politics/bernie-sanders-announces-presidential-run/index.html

You do not defend this by saying you are protecting mom and pop stores in VERMONT. This is about people being slaughtered.


Attention alerters. This vote is far before the primaries.

It was the day the music died.

David Hogg is correct.

Thanks
Tavarious Jackson
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210610602#top




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Hey why let divisions heal when they can be used to help us lose more elections Fullduplexxx May 2018 #1
Yeah, there's just something about that Sanders guy Hekate May 2018 #3
It's called popularity... HenryWallace May 2018 #191
The Harvard Harris Poll once again. sheshe2 May 2018 #242
Here is another one.... HenryWallace May 2018 #301
Do you have an actual link rather than a blurred picture? lapucelle May 2018 #316
You are quoting Faux Snooze on Democratic Underground? sheshe2 May 2018 #317
A year ago. On Fox News. Did they poll people in Vermont? ehrnst May 2018 #328
That's old data. lapucelle May 2018 #264
Post removed Post removed May 2018 #302
That's old data as well, and it concerns a private citizen, lapucelle May 2018 #315
Is that the same Hillary Clinton that has been the most admired woman in the WORLD... George II May 2018 #319
Yep. The very same. calimary May 2018 #326
Yep. ehrnst May 2018 #329
Interesting. She's sure pulling in the crowds and standing ovations IRL for someone so "unliked" ehrnst May 2018 #332
You left a little something out of your post that's in that poll ehrnst May 2018 #333
Harvard-Harris Survey...DRINK!!!! Kahuna7 May 2018 #277
You know what they say... HenryWallace May 2018 #307
So, you're saying that a DU member who you have NEVER met has a drinking problem? Really????? George II May 2018 #321
Oh, my. What a reposte. ehrnst May 2018 #331
"Granted, you may not have a lot of experience here." George II May 2018 #318
Do you know what that "poll" represents? Look at the methodology (and it's old, too) Hint... George II May 2018 #320
So true... the Bernie bashing shtick is getting tiresome and borrrring... InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #24
Stating simple facts about his record is getting old, huh? Ninsianna May 2018 #28
You mean like Hillary Clinton being a Goldwater campaign volunteer? Lets stop all this purity crap.. marble falls May 2018 #90
Goldwater Girl, Iraq War: "she was for the war before she was against it" betsuni May 2018 #92
All that had no effect on policy...what Sen. Sanders did had a big effect...how many school Demsrule86 May 2018 #102
What? Did you think I agreed with that post? betsuni May 2018 #103
Sorry wrong poster....I know you don't. Demsrule86 May 2018 #105
Whew! betsuni May 2018 #106
A vote for the War on Iraq is funny? SammyWinstonJack May 2018 #232
Some people want us to believe HRC started/wanted the Iraq War betsuni May 2018 #235
which vote? Ninsianna May 2018 #262
Definitely not as "funny" as voting against the Brady Bill five times. ehrnst May 2018 #334
Gun control is funny? betsuni May 2018 #338
Agree. mountain grammy May 2018 #94
Why are you bringing Hillary into this.. she's Cha May 2018 #97
I'm not criticizing Hillary. I am criticizing the useless splintering of the Democratic Party just.. marble falls May 2018 #116
"I'm not criticizing Hillary" says the person who called her Goldwater Girl. betsuni May 2018 #117
I'll give you $10.00 to point out one place where in my entire life I ever said that.... marble falls May 2018 #122
Your comment #90 betsuni May 2018 #123
You have better vision than I. Where is the "Goldwater-girl"? marble falls May 2018 #128
Huh? Hillary did refer to herself as a Goldwater Girl. betsuni May 2018 #134
I'm not worried about your star. But just because and only because you asked for it.... marble falls May 2018 #197
She was 16 and she sure as hell has evolved. sheshe2 May 2018 #222
My point is that we need to be working together and that Nov and unity is what we have to.... marble falls May 2018 #233
One is no longer a government employee or seeking office. sheshe2 May 2018 #237
Its safe to say neither you nor I think Bernie goes far enough in his gun control position.... marble falls May 2018 #239
It is not about a grade from the frigging NRA. sheshe2 May 2018 #241
If Bernie is in the primary for 2020 sheshe2 May 2018 #243
Nice of you to clarify that. MicaelS May 2018 #303
Glad I could clarify that for you. sheshe2 May 2018 #322
This is about him prioritizing Economic Justice which you obviously disagree with. MicaelS May 2018 #342
I didn't ask for anything. I already quoted Hillary saying that. betsuni May 2018 #238
Please do not put words into my mouth. marble falls May 2018 #240
Bernie Sanders is not a member of the Democratic Party krawhitham May 2018 #139
This message was self-deleted by its author Wwcd May 2018 #180
"For all intents and purposes, Bernie Sanders is a Democrat. (nt)" - Skinner LiberalLovinLug May 2018 #187
I respect Skinner but a whole lot of people disagree with that. kstewart33 May 2018 #223
So splintering it further by the use of these divisive right wing tactics Ninsianna May 2018 #263
She was a teenager...Sen. Sanders was a grown man and holding office... Demsrule86 May 2018 #99
Whataboutism - when you have no other response. ehrnst May 2018 #107
I'm not holding anybody to anything they've ever said. I'm saying we all evolve, this constant... marble falls May 2018 #125
Yes, I hear that whenever someone criticizes Bernie's votes. ehrnst May 2018 #133
There's LOTS more, but, we need to look forward not back and UNITE... InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #255
yes, because what one does as a teenager is exactly equal to Ninsianna May 2018 #260
+1! betsuni May 2018 #261
She was never "for" the Iraq war. ehrnst May 2018 #335
+1 betsuni May 2018 #339
yep, Divide and Conquer, right out of the russian bot playbook. nt elmac May 2018 #31
Exactly! elleng May 2018 #54
You're calling DUers Russian bots? betsuni May 2018 #101
are you? Do you? elmac May 2018 #143
I'm not going to be ignored, Dan! betsuni May 2018 #146
Stated comments from Bernie is now bashing? sheshe2 May 2018 #38
This phenomenon of verbatim quotes and voting records as "bashing" is being studied betsuni May 2018 #56
Ding ding ding! sheshe2 May 2018 #141
Ya really. He stands on his record. The facts arthritisR_US May 2018 #59
"Stated comments from Bernie is now bashing?" LiberalLovinLug May 2018 #192
+1,000,000!!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #253
You should take your own advice about obtuseness. Nothing in your R B Garr May 2018 #271
Sounds like a plan LiberalLovinLug May 2018 #275
Voting records are only weaknesses if they are weak. Do you think R B Garr May 2018 #276
I guess its only fair LiberalLovinLug May 2018 #280
I have to laugh at your concern over voting records when you R B Garr May 2018 #281
lol. That was exactly my point LiberalLovinLug May 2018 #285
Your post 192 was not doing what you mention. It wasn't an R B Garr May 2018 #286
Oh...Here I thought bringing up past Senators actual voting records was something we should be doing LiberalLovinLug May 2018 #287
LOL. Oh, I get it. I read your post 192, which was accusing R B Garr May 2018 #288
Thank you for each and everyone of your posts in this subthread. sheshe2 May 2018 #344
My pleasure, she R B Garr May 2018 #349
Nobody is "bashing" Bernie. NurseJackie May 2018 #183
so petty And tiresome. Give it up. I still want this man to be president onit2day May 2018 #190
Bernie wud make a great Prez. Hillary too btw, despite her bad votes. We hafta look fwd now & unite! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #254
So holding feet to the fire was only for the black guy? We can't do it to Sanders? stevenleser May 2018 #26
Boom! SunSeeker May 2018 #40
No kidding! arthritisR_US May 2018 #60
Holding some feet to the fire good, two particular feet bad. betsuni May 2018 #64
Bazinga! sheshe2 May 2018 #142
yep, all the circular firing squads pretty much guarantees 8 years of tRump elmac May 2018 #29
Seems to me it was the idiots who ate up NRA/Russian propaganda that guaranteed us Trump. SunSeeker May 2018 #43
+1 betsuni May 2018 #53
+1000! arthritisR_US May 2018 #61
+1 jrthin May 2018 #129
If I might highlight part of your response, SunSeeker. sheshe2 May 2018 #144
So posting statements concerning Sanders voting record, here on DU, will "guarantee" ehrnst May 2018 #136
Exactly.. disillusioned73 May 2018 #119
I tell the truth and WhiteTara May 2018 #145
I stand with Bernie on this. appal_jack May 2018 #2
Cars aren't designed to kill, guns are. George II May 2018 #4
Full Stop sheshe2 May 2018 #11
Bull. Auto manufacturers don't fund a white wing racist organization like NRA. The manufacturers, Hoyt May 2018 #13
No, Bernie gave gun manufacturers special immunities NOT available to car manufacturers. SunSeeker May 2018 #19
The PLCAA got passed because governments and lawyers... MicaelS May 2018 #304
The PLCAA was passed so gun manufacturers could sell assault weapons with impunity. SunSeeker May 2018 #312
I stand against Bernie on this, and the right wingers who originated this talking point. Ninsianna May 2018 #30
So you don't think that the drug company that sent 9 million opiod pills to a town of Fresh_Start May 2018 #112
I am on the side of suffering of pain. MicaelS May 2018 #305
Thank you for sharing the truth. NurseJackie May 2018 #5
You are most welcome NurseJackie. sheshe2 May 2018 #25
I'm so glad they did she. SunSeeker May 2018 #47
They give me hope as well, SunSeeker. sheshe2 May 2018 #147
2005 to be exact. nt SunSeeker May 2018 #42
BTW the bill passed the Senate 65-31, and the House 283-144. n/t PoliticAverse May 2018 #6
And? George II May 2018 #9
You'll never get a good Two Minutes Hate going QC May 2018 #10
I know! Why can't people just pretend Bernie's shitty votes didn't happen? emulatorloo May 2018 #21
LOL SunSeeker May 2018 #39
Aw. NurseJackie May 2018 #23
That seems to be how the forces attacking Democrata work, it's why Ninsianna May 2018 #34
So there were 64 other votes. guillaumeb May 2018 #20
Are those 64 gearing up for a 2020 presidential run? sheshe2 May 2018 #149
*Crickets!* Chirp-chirp! NurseJackie May 2018 #216
Thanks, Jackie. sheshe2 May 2018 #219
So, what your saying is... disillusioned73 May 2018 #120
If they're running for president in 2020, YES you will see them NT Tavarious Jackson May 2018 #126
I look forward to seeing them ;) disillusioned73 May 2018 #127
Absolutely. Me too Tavarious Jackson May 2018 #157
Let's keep the spotlight on this issue.. disillusioned73 May 2018 #158
100% agree. Tavarious Jackson May 2018 #160
Blood On Hands Will Always Be Denied Me. May 2018 #7
David. sheshe2 May 2018 #12
... Me. May 2018 #14
Agreed-he is an amazing young man Gothmog May 2018 #184
We're democrats Tavarious Jackson May 2018 #8
Correct. sheshe2 May 2018 #15
Why would anyone who calls him/herself a "progressive" vote against the Brady Bill? George II May 2018 #16
I do not know George. sheshe2 May 2018 #18
I could explain it... but for obvious reasons I won't. NurseJackie May 2018 #22
+1 SunSeeker May 2018 #37
It really makes me wonder... Hekate May 2018 #50
Bernie Sanders is not a Democrat. TheSmarterDog May 2018 #87
No, Bernie is a "Democrat's Democrat," voting with the Democrats more often... InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #91
Except when he votes against them on progressive issues ehrnst May 2018 #108
+1 betsuni May 2018 #113
+1 Jamaal510 May 2018 #131
+++ sheshe2 May 2018 #151
Great post Gothmog May 2018 #186
Feel the burn! ucrdem May 2018 #336
Truth. Thank you. NurseJackie May 2018 #362
Bernie is doubleplusgood! MrsCoffee May 2018 #121
"....voting with the Democrats more often than any other Democrat." George II May 2018 #132
Excellent post, George. sheshe2 May 2018 #152
But he can't seem to ever actually JOIN THE FUCKING PARTY! TheSmarterDog May 2018 #171
⚘Thank you SheShe. He took care of the voters in his own State at the behest of all others. Wwcd May 2018 #17
Yes sheshe2 May 2018 #33
I was saddened to find out Bernie has not cut ties with Killer Mike. oasis May 2018 #27
Is that the same Killer Mike that extols the virtues of donald trump? George II May 2018 #135
The Killer Mike who called gun control activists, "lackeys" in an oasis May 2018 #148
Great song. BigmanPigman May 2018 #32
I do appreciate this thread elmac May 2018 #35
I was just thinking the exact same thing. royable May 2018 #46
exactly, all this Bernie hate is very unattractive elmac May 2018 #49
Yeah, Bernie is a "true progressive" - "Except when he votes against them on progressive issues" csziggy May 2018 #124
yawn elmac May 2018 #140
You shouldn't put the Bernie haters on ignore... we need to try change hearts and minds. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #93
I for one have no such list. sheshe2 May 2018 #155
hear hear. Our ability to shape the bubbles we want to exist in is going to erode our JCanete May 2018 #354
I'm a big Sanders fan jes06c May 2018 #36
yep, the NRA D- rating is earth shaking! nt elmac May 2018 #41
What I find earth shaking are his five votes against the brady bill. sheshe2 May 2018 #45
He's got the 9th BEST NRA rating of the 49 Democrats/Independents currently in the Senate. George II May 2018 #137
I am not a Sanders fan... DemoHack May 2018 #44
You do realize the PLCAA is still in effect and Bernie still supports it, right? SunSeeker May 2018 #48
So let's blame Sanders for America's gun problem. DemoHack May 2018 #215
Oh come on. Drama much? No one is blaming Bernie for America's gun problem. SunSeeker May 2018 #218
Bernie voted for the crime bill didn't he? comradebillyboy May 2018 #278
Mahalo for getting the facts out Cha May 2018 #51
Cha.. sheshe2 May 2018 #156
How Harry Reid and Dianne Feinstein Helped Derail a Promising Legal Fight Against Gun Violence Glamrock May 2018 #52
Mmm hmmm Glamrock May 2018 #62
Reid is no longer in office. Feinstein did not vote yes, like Bernie did. SunSeeker May 2018 #63
Her non vote helped. Glamrock May 2018 #65
Bernie supports the PLCAA, unlike Feinstein. That's why. SunSeeker May 2018 #66
As did many democrats in the House and Senate. Glamrock May 2018 #67
And which of those yes votes are publicly gearing up a 2020 presidential campaign? SunSeeker May 2018 #68
I've yet to see him declare. Glamrock May 2018 #69
So we can't discuss his horrible pro-gun votes unless he officially declares? SunSeeker May 2018 #70
No. Glamrock May 2018 #71
There is nothing "unfair" about holding any of our representatived accountable. SunSeeker May 2018 #75
Agreed Glamrock May 2018 #76
Feinstein's nonvote did not help get the bill passed. SunSeeker May 2018 #77
We'll have to agree to disagree at this point. Glamrock May 2018 #79
Obama, Clinton, Biden, Kerry, Schumer, and Kennedy lapucelle May 2018 #351
Post removed Post removed May 2018 #72
But of course it was. Glamrock May 2018 #74
Oh, so now you think criticising Sanders for his vote is "absolutely acceptable"? SunSeeker May 2018 #80
Cmon Sun. Glamrock May 2018 #81
Damn, I thought we had a breakthrough. SunSeeker May 2018 #83
Yes. Glamrock May 2018 #86
Bernie "singled out" himself by his abhorant support of the PLCAA. SunSeeker May 2018 #166
Sort of like pretending HRC's was the one vote on our side ehrnst May 2018 #110
Boom! mcar May 2018 #130
Exactly Glamrock May 2018 #169
Allow me to quote Prince Harry... NurseJackie May 2018 #212
Pretending his vote was the one vote on our side that killed the bill betsuni May 2018 #114
So, Sanders went to the right of the Democratic Establishment on that vote ehrnst May 2018 #109
Could somebody please explain ... Straw Man May 2018 #55
Your question has a false premise, Straw Man. SunSeeker May 2018 #58
Mahalo for this, SunSeeker.. Well Stated. Cha May 2018 #73
Not at all. Straw Man May 2018 #78
Car manufacturers are held liabile for criminal misuse of their products, why not gun manufacturers? SunSeeker May 2018 #82
No -- they are held liable for defects in their products. Straw Man May 2018 #84
A product can be negligently marketed as well as negligently made. SunSeeker May 2018 #85
Exactly. If car manufacturers advertised their products the way gun manufacturers do, they'd be in Hoyt May 2018 #96
I did read the article. I stand by my interpretations. Straw Man May 2018 #172
If negligent marketing is an "easily disproven canard," why not let it go to the jury? SunSeeker May 2018 #185
Maybe it should. Straw Man May 2018 #188
Is there some gun marketing that shows them being used in a dangerous or illegal manner? EX500rider May 2018 #198
Yes. SunSeeker May 2018 #199
That link had zero examples of gun ads of people doing illegal or dangerous things with guns. EX500rider May 2018 #200
Marketing is not just ads. It is how you sell. They knowingly sold to a bad seed dealer. SunSeeker May 2018 #203
Wrong. For the 100th time. The exemption carved out is for the gun industry *only*. DanTex May 2018 #111
Not wrong. I never claimed ... Straw Man May 2018 #174
Umm, that's because car manufacturers don't knowingly and intentionally profit from crime. DanTex May 2018 #177
Nor do the gun manufacturers. Straw Man May 2018 #179
Yes, they are. That's what they were being sued for. DanTex May 2018 #201
What lawsuits were succeeding? Straw Man May 2018 #236
Google the Smith and Wesson lawsuit. DanTex May 2018 #245
You mean the lawsuit that wasn't a lawsuit? Straw Man May 2018 #252
Umm... a lawsuit that settles out of court is still a lawsuit. DanTex May 2018 #269
It was deal to exempt the company from lawsuits. Straw Man May 2018 #272
Umm, yeah, that was part of the settlement. DanTex May 2018 #282
You are merely confirming my contention. Straw Man May 2018 #290
Well, if your contention was that S&W was successfully sued, then I guess I am. DanTex May 2018 #292
Threats of suits are not suits. Straw Man May 2018 #295
Threats of lawsuits can also be effective (obviously). But in this case suits actually were filed. DanTex May 2018 #299
A few points. Straw Man May 2018 #313
You have no basis for calling the lawsuits "frivolous". DanTex May 2018 #314
Would you prefer "misguided" or "coercive"? Straw Man May 2018 #323
Pick whatever word you want, there's still no basis for it. DanTex May 2018 #324
If you don't want to answer, just say so. Straw Man May 2018 #325
LOL. You're the one who has consistently refused to answer. DanTex May 2018 #330
Oh -- have you asked a question? Straw Man May 2018 #345
What makes you think the protections against frivolous lawsuits are insufficient? DanTex May 2018 #346
Because the threat of lawsuits was being used to regulate an industry. Straw Man May 2018 #347
I guess you know nothing about auto safety or environmental legislation, just for starters. DanTex May 2018 #355
Chalk and cheese. Straw Man May 2018 #356
Aha. So now you're changing your story. Again. DanTex May 2018 #357
No, I'm not. Straw Man May 2018 #358
Show us just how many times in the last 50 years... MicaelS May 2018 #309
You are free to sue car manufacturers for that, if you want. DanTex May 2018 #310
A hypothetical question: thucythucy May 2018 #150
A hypothetical answer. Straw Man May 2018 #168
You didn't answer the question. thucythucy May 2018 #175
The only documentation ... Straw Man May 2018 #176
But still no answer to the question. thucythucy May 2018 #178
I would not be in favor of granting blanket immunity ... Straw Man May 2018 #182
"Lawyers cost money." And plaintiffs who bring frivolous lawsuits thucythucy May 2018 #196
Right. Straw Man May 2018 #234
Right indeed. thucythucy May 2018 #265
One wonders ... Straw Man May 2018 #273
Funny how you keep shifting your arguments. thucythucy May 2018 #274
I'll include anything I think relevant. Straw Man May 2018 #279
Of course you will, thucythucy May 2018 #340
The two scenarios are NOT mutually contradictory. Straw Man May 2018 #343
Not just defects. Car manufacturers were sued for lack of safety features mythology May 2018 #163
If you want the safety features, then mandate them. Straw Man May 2018 #170
Show us just how many times in the last 50 years... MicaelS May 2018 #308
Here you go: SunSeeker May 2018 #311
The "us" is everyone who objects to this line of thought. n/t MicaelS May 2018 #341
Fantastic post. Thank you. n/t MicaelS May 2018 #306
Perhaps, I can help. What is the difference between "Items of Metal" that go boom. thewhollytoast May 2018 #353
K&R! Thank you, Sheshe! lunamagica May 2018 #57
Once again, it's pointed out that St Bernie has no clothes, and his worshipers ignore it TheSmarterDog May 2018 #88
K&R Sancho May 2018 #89
Snopes. sheshe2 May 2018 #159
He is like a weathervane. NCTraveler May 2018 #95
Camp Weathervane! betsuni May 2018 #98
I stand with Bernie Sanders. The PLCAA helps protect a civil liberty. aikoaiko May 2018 #100
I do not support anything which helps murderous gun manufacturers who received special rights with Demsrule86 May 2018 #104
If any agent of a gun manufacturer pulls the trigger of murder gun, I support their prosecution. aikoaiko May 2018 #115
NO other manufacturer has blanket exemption and gun owners shouldn't either...the reason Demsrule86 May 2018 #165
This may surprise you, but what you wrote is not exactly true. aikoaiko May 2018 #167
perhaps cab67 May 2018 #231
I do not think such a fund exists. aikoaiko May 2018 #289
To which fund are you referring? cab67 May 2018 #291
The latter - I'm pointing out the absence of such a fund for gun violence victims aikoaiko May 2018 #293
This message was self-deleted by its author chwaliszewski May 2018 #195
Holding our politicians "feet to the fire" mcar May 2018 #118
This cannot be repeated enough. betsuni May 2018 #138
Apparently this varies depending on whose feet we're discussing. NurseJackie May 2018 #164
Hi SheShe. thucythucy May 2018 #153
I will check out your other post, thucythucy. sheshe2 May 2018 #162
It's now a thread. thucythucy May 2018 #181
The conversation continues. thucythucy May 2018 #266
The fact is, Bernie's record on gun control is terrible NastyRiffraff May 2018 #154
It's these kind of "facts" ... HenryWallace May 2018 #207
So Trump was elected because of the fact that NastyRiffraff May 2018 #226
So am I Gothmog May 2018 #227
Sanders support of the gun manufacturer immunity law is wrong Gothmog May 2018 #161
Pssst...this is the reason for much of his support. Especially among white males. nt LexVegas May 2018 #173
Correct you are. He's the other half of the other half. Wwcd May 2018 #189
er..yeah...totally...which is why his voters then turned around and overwhelmingly supported Clinton JCanete May 2018 #193
This message was self-deleted by its author chwaliszewski May 2018 #194
Healing? What are does this even mean? NurseJackie May 2018 #209
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Nobody is doing that. NurseJackie May 2018 #270
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The very careful way that you split hairs and parse words... NurseJackie May 2018 #296
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Yes it is. The real world is a nice place to be. NurseJackie May 2018 #348
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Okay, bye! I'm not going anywhere. And... NurseJackie May 2018 #359
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Thanks! That makes it easier for me. NurseJackie May 2018 #361
Your linked article is from over 3 years ago left-of-center2012 May 2018 #202
Agree 100 percent! karin_sj May 2018 #205
Yes. sheshe2 May 2018 #213
Obsessive Bernie bashers drove me away from DU during the run up to the election. mac56 May 2018 #204
I agree left-of-center2012 May 2018 #206
Hang in there bud.... HenryWallace May 2018 #208
Yes, the "deadenders" are already descending into "Hell".... R B Garr May 2018 #229
I've taken it in stride. romanic May 2018 #211
Did you just call me delusional romantic? sheshe2 May 2018 #221
Sorry, can't laugh... we need to unite, not divide, before it's too late. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #259
I hear you mac, but, please hang in there with us... don't let the dividers win. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #258
Out with the old in with the new? pault420 May 2018 #210
true. sheshe2 May 2018 #214
Wonder how many issues iamthebandfanman May 2018 #217
Hillary Clinton is no longer in office and is not running in 2020. sheshe2 May 2018 #220
Thank you, she! SunSeeker May 2018 #244
Funny how they can't post a positive about him... sheshe2 May 2018 #246
LOL SunSeeker May 2018 #247
Safe one sheshe2 May 2018 #250
Yep. A lot of people still can't throw away their Hillary cards BannonsLiver May 2018 #352
This was alerted on in bad faith, ironically proving your point. DRoseDARs May 2018 #224
Why does that NOT surprise me?! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #257
LOL R B Garr May 2018 #228
I agree with David Hogg Gothmog May 2018 #225
So do I. sheshe2 May 2018 #230
This message was self-deleted by its author chwaliszewski May 2018 #249
Ah. sheshe2 May 2018 #251
This message was self-deleted by its author chwaliszewski May 2018 #268
Sadly, he hasn't... have a feeling Bernie has had enough and is ready to pass the baton InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #256
Bernie Bashers remind me of the old guy mac56 May 2018 #267
Nobody is doing that. NurseJackie May 2018 #297
LOL! Quixote1818 May 2018 #300
Those are his votes.. he owns that. Cha May 2018 #337
Bernie did finally change his position during his 2016 campaign run... cynatnite May 2018 #283
Buck Fernie luc mont May 2018 #284
might wanna watch last weeks bill maher + killer mike on gun control. pansypoo53219 May 2018 #327
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