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jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
62. Your OP refers to "unarmed children"
Tue May 15, 2018, 01:03 PM
May 2018

I do not know the age of majority in Israel, so whether the four in question are not adults in Israel is an open question.

But since your OP talks about "lying", and doesn't mention "babies", then have you moved the goalposts here?

So, to be clear on the proper form of condemnation which you believe is warranted, your OP seemed to object to use of the word "children"?
People here believe what they want to believe leftynyc May 2018 #1
Spot on. Tipperary May 2018 #2
Thank you, like many things in the Mideast, this is more complicated than a headline can express Amishman May 2018 #6
I am a strong supporter of Israel as a Jewish state, but it is not necessary to move Sophia4 May 2018 #12
How much more slowly would you like to move? leftynyc May 2018 #92
All true, but moving the embassy just makes that bad situation worse. Sophia4 May 2018 #113
Was no need to move that embassy, it was fine! Republicans & RW Israel-foment violence. Sunlei May 2018 #130
Let's see leftynyc May 2018 #158
As I recall, Jerusalem is a holy site for at least 3 religions and was not identified as an Sophia4 May 2018 #166
Yes I know leftynyc May 2018 #202
What does this mean? Sophia4 May 2018 #209
Meaning under any future agreement leftynyc May 2018 #210
The move precipitated the protests tazkcmo May 2018 #186
40000 people trying leftynyc May 2018 #201
You're so right Sophia. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #152
I'm just wondering leftynyc May 2018 #157
It should have been moved 23 years ago. grossproffit May 2018 #208
Can you explain the difference between "slaughtering unarmed children" and "killing kids"? muriel_volestrangler May 2018 #36
Slaughter means "kill (people or animals) in a cruel or violent way, typically in large numbers." oberliner May 2018 #42
Yes, shooting is violent; "typically" does not mean exclusively muriel_volestrangler May 2018 #47
I was unaware that slaughter was "cruel or violent" anyway jberryhill May 2018 #69
In a "cruel of violent way" jberryhill May 2018 #67
Epic fail. Use any trite phrase you like, it won't change the fact that Israel procon May 2018 #98
I'm still waiting for anyone leftynyc May 2018 #94
What children were doing where they live? I don't know, would you like them expelled muriel_volestrangler May 2018 #104
Gaza is 141 square mile... EX500rider May 2018 #167
Would I let my children go to a protest for their rights? muriel_volestrangler May 2018 #168
You would let your young children go to a Hamas inspired riot and attempted.. EX500rider May 2018 #171
What you call a riot, they all see as a protest - the only way to get the world muriel_volestrangler May 2018 #176
I must have missed the molotov cocktails at the MLK marches... EX500rider May 2018 #179
+1000 smirkymonkey May 2018 #197
It makes it impossible to have a discussion about this topic oberliner May 2018 #41
When people only want to blame one side leftynyc May 2018 #95
Yes, I feel the same way oberliner May 2018 #97
That is right wingers treestar May 2018 #131
Are you saying those children you agree were killed weren't "slaughtered"? uppityperson May 2018 #3
Only a small unspecified number jberryhill May 2018 #9
One is too many EffieBlack May 2018 #11
Yes, but Oberliner is objecting to the phrase "slaughter unarmed children" jberryhill May 2018 #13
Do you know how many children were "shot by snipers?" EffieBlack May 2018 #20
I believe that may be a good question to ask Oberliner jberryhill May 2018 #22
Dear GOD Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #53
My work is done here jberryhill May 2018 #61
Thank you uppityperson May 2018 #150
Well one of slaughter's definitions is "the act of killing'. So you can call it one. nt Kirk Lover May 2018 #34
Well a snipers bullet in the head is not 'slaughter' why just killing... ridiculous for the OP to Demsrule86 May 2018 #76
No babies were shot by snipers so that is just a lie oberliner May 2018 #43
Your OP refers to "unarmed children" jberryhill May 2018 #62
Well, they were probably "no angels" . . . hatrack May 2018 #121
I use "babies" in the colloquial sense - in my family, anybody under 10 referred to as a "baby" EffieBlack May 2018 #88
Why was an infant that close? Tipperary May 2018 #142
I saw hundreds of infants at the women's march. Were all those parents "asking for it?" Squinch May 2018 #154
Completely different situation. Tipperary May 2018 #195
The women's march? oberliner May 2018 #199
When live ammunition is used in a crowded situations, the problem bability that people will be still_one May 2018 #44
"sharpshooters. " nt NCTraveler May 2018 #27
i.e. - people who shoot what they are aiming at jberryhill May 2018 #28
No doubt about it. nt. NCTraveler May 2018 #33
To me, RandomAccess May 2018 #31
There is no evidence to support the claim that any child was killed by sniper shot oberliner May 2018 #45
You don't consider teens children? tavernier May 2018 #79
Yeah, but would you let you and yours into a situation like that border mess? Ligyron May 2018 #103
words matter Mosby May 2018 #194
Certainly they matter in a context where they have an agreed meaning jberryhill May 2018 #196
And because they were from the wrong liberalhistorian May 2018 #122
Or they were armed lame54 May 2018 #19
I think slaughter is an acceptable word. NCTraveler May 2018 #4
Thank you for your words of wisdom! cornball 24 May 2018 #30
That's very fair (n/t) leftynyc May 2018 #96
Soldier with a sniper rifle from a safe distance shooting a child with a rock isn't slaughter? NoMoreRepugs May 2018 #5
+1 RandomAccess May 2018 #32
Slaughter usually means killing large numbers oberliner May 2018 #46
Usually it does - rock throwing, even molotov cocktail throwing vs nested sniper is SLAUGHTER to me. NoMoreRepugs May 2018 #145
I have empathy for both the Israelis and Palestinians. DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #7
I agree. Sophia4 May 2018 #10
Still, moving the American embassy to Jerusalem was intended to incite anger Sophia4 May 2018 #8
Everything you said EffieBlack May 2018 #17
They're attributing a lot of the protest to Hamas organization, as did our loathesome Ambassador maxsolomon May 2018 #14
" I just know there's got to be a better way. " DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #16
Rump did this to cause killings to show off to his deplorable base who get OFF on seeing Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #59
Eliot, you use the term "brown people" for Palestinians ProudLib72 May 2018 #115
Slaughter is slaughter angrychair May 2018 #15
They didn't use to be trapped in Gaza hack89 May 2018 #18
So that makes it right? angrychair May 2018 #25
" I find it perplexing that a people that lived through what they did..." oberliner May 2018 #51
Speaking of the Jewish people angrychair May 2018 #71
Collectiive punishment treestar May 2018 #105
And argue about whether these mothers' children's murders may appropriately be called a "slaughter." EffieBlack May 2018 #21
I'll have you know that the air conditioning in my restaurant is off jberryhill May 2018 #23
I wonder why they can't cross the Gaza border with Eygpt? EX500rider May 2018 #138
Exactly, oberliner madaboutharry May 2018 #24
"The spreading of this lie needs to stop" jberryhill May 2018 #26
The lie is in quotation marks oberliner May 2018 #63
Okay, could you define "slaughter unarmed children" jberryhill May 2018 #65
An 8 month old child died from inhaling tear gas. That's enough for me. Vinca May 2018 #29
Gazan doctor, Israel cast doubts over Hamas claim infant died from tear gas oberliner May 2018 #60
I would still think Israel is being too heavy handed. Vinca May 2018 #110
Agreed oberliner May 2018 #114
maybe taking your 8 month old baby to a riot in progress is a bad idea. EX500rider May 2018 #140
Tear gas travels. Given the amount it appears was being used, nowhere is safe. Vinca May 2018 #151
Gaza is a 141 square miles. EX500rider May 2018 #155
It probably doesn't matter anyway. By now her parents are probably dead, too. Vinca May 2018 #169
Why would that be? EX500rider May 2018 #170
Oh, for heaven's sake. I already said above I think Israel is being heavy handed. Vinca May 2018 #172
"I have no idea who is or is not dead, wounded or otherwise indisposed and neither do you" EX500rider May 2018 #175
Wow is it that SMALL? City of Houston is 627 square miles lostnfound May 2018 #198
Has lots of empty space: EX500rider May 2018 #200
Isreal gets a pass for the holocaust Liberalhammer May 2018 #35
What the hell? oberliner May 2018 #58
Enjoy your brief stay. n/t Still In Wisconsin May 2018 #87
Europe and the United States and most of the World Liberalhammer May 2018 #125
I'm sick of seeing that leftynyc May 2018 #99
More than that MosheFeingold May 2018 #123
Idiots among us Liberalhammer May 2018 #126
Post removed Post removed May 2018 #134
Seriously Liberalhammer May 2018 #137
You know what I disagree with Liberalhammer May 2018 #143
No but the holocaust crack is. marble falls May 2018 #165
The apartheid lie is an Iranian propaganda meme intended to provoke violence and hatred. Fozzledick May 2018 #180
Lol, yeah, Israelis are time travelers Bradical79 May 2018 #207
In the interest of painting an accurate picture, WaPo is saying there were no Israeli casualties. Girard442 May 2018 #37
Thankfully oberliner May 2018 #57
What else are you thankful for? R B Garr May 2018 #81
Yes, because those are apparently liberalhistorian May 2018 #163
Thus ends the moral authority of the Jews: How many Kids do you need to have a slaughter? doxyluv13 May 2018 #38
The moral authority of the Jews? oberliner May 2018 #56
Have the ADL, the Wiesenthal Center or any major Jewish organizations condemned this crap? doxyluv13 May 2018 #182
What the fuck are you babbling about? leftynyc May 2018 #100
It's Peter Beinart's Crisis of Zionism come to life. doxyluv13 May 2018 #183
I'm guessing IDF bullets grant instant adulthood, with a bonus Hamas membership. denbot May 2018 #39
Look at the Gaza Ministry of Health list oberliner May 2018 #55
Should they be allowed to be enlisted or get married? wellst0nev0ter May 2018 #164
How many Israeli troops died?? PubliusEnigma May 2018 #40
zero Exotica May 2018 #48
Thankfully, none oberliner May 2018 #54
I am blocking you. I don't what your game is but this is an appalling post....one of the worst I Demsrule86 May 2018 #77
That's his job. ret5hd May 2018 #80
maybe...I can't believe any poster would argue that multiple kids must be 'killed' for it to rise Demsrule86 May 2018 #162
You're blocking someone leftynyc May 2018 #101
I am blocking someone who opines that shooting children in the head is not slaughter but merely Demsrule86 May 2018 #161
Yeah, those 50,00 Hamas led criminlas should sit in their own filth The Polack MSgt May 2018 #49
See this: MineralMan May 2018 #50
Yes - everyone should go to that link oberliner May 2018 #52
How many have to die before this rises to your threshold of "slaughter"? Denzil_DC May 2018 #64
Something like this oberliner May 2018 #86
So in the face of an atrocity like that, Denzil_DC May 2018 #89
If it had happened anywhere else MFM008 May 2018 #66
Civilians (including children) are actually being slaughtered around the world every day oberliner May 2018 #68
Yes MFM008 May 2018 #72
Not by an alleged bastion of democracy... a la izquierda May 2018 #203
"a small number of kids" The_Casual_Observer May 2018 #70
It's definitely better that only a small number of teenagers were killed than a large number oberliner May 2018 #73
"only" Denzil_DC May 2018 #75
Seems self evident that fewer deaths is better than more deaths oberliner May 2018 #85
It seems self-evident that you're determined to minimize what's happened. n/t Denzil_DC May 2018 #93
There is no minimizing what happened oberliner May 2018 #120
Good. Denzil_DC May 2018 #159
Oh Jesus, please. The_Casual_Observer May 2018 #78
I have fewer dead kids buried in my basement than John Wayne Gacy did jberryhill May 2018 #90
It is not a lie...children have died and not just yesterday...a giant fuck you to Israel...I will Demsrule86 May 2018 #74
Yes, it is oberliner May 2018 #84
Think it was a false flag operation? Orsino May 2018 #82
No, of course not oberliner May 2018 #83
Israel has become its own enemy. PubliusEnigma May 2018 #91
Okay I condemn their actions HopeAgain May 2018 #102
How about "Israel brutally puts down prison riot"? Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #106
Gaza has a border with Egypt oberliner May 2018 #118
Hey, don't point out the double standard MosheFeingold May 2018 #135
Some of the thinly veiled anti-Semitism in this thread is rather alarming. nt LexVegas May 2018 #107
Because uncomfortable questions treestar May 2018 #111
"Israel gets a pass for the Holocaust." "Thus ends the moral authority of the Jews..." LexVegas May 2018 #119
It does raise an issue treestar May 2018 #128
Explain to me what the "moral authority of the Jews" is and how they "get a pass for the Holocaust". LexVegas May 2018 #129
All you have to do is treestar May 2018 #133
Anti-Semitism? Liberalhammer May 2018 #132
Defending your border from Hamas operatives hiding in a protest and .. EX500rider May 2018 #144
I guess the UN investigation Liberalhammer May 2018 #146
Half the planet doesn't even recognize Israel's existence as a country oberliner May 2018 #188
Thinly veiled?? Seems pretty obvious to me. Fozzledick May 2018 #184
slingshots & bottle rockets v.up to date US military weapons, easy to see the Israelis had no other mulsh May 2018 #108
They have every right to protest and Israel should not have used live ammo against them oberliner May 2018 #117
The whole Palestinian issue could have been solved... MicaelS May 2018 #109
That means open borders treestar May 2018 #136
No, it does not mean open borders. MicaelS May 2018 #211
So they are not allowed to treestar May 2018 #112
Hamas only allows them to organize certain kinds of protests oberliner May 2018 #116
Vague treestar May 2018 #124
Then Israel should post CLEAR PICTURES of "armed squads" with "Explosive devices" Sunlei May 2018 #127
I just hope you're this understanding next time some Israeli kids end up dead... Blue_Tires May 2018 #139
I'm not at all understanding and I completely and wholeheartedly condemn the Israeli actions oberliner May 2018 #149
Among the dead were eight children, including eight-month-old Laila Anwar Ghandour. spanone May 2018 #141
Why was a baby there? Tipperary May 2018 #181
Wow Johnny2X2X May 2018 #147
I'm certain then that proof will be forthcoming from the IDF, right?? Blue_Tires May 2018 #148
From the video footage I saw that was exactly how the "relief" boat episode went. EX500rider May 2018 #174
Sorry, you'll have to do better than wiki Blue_Tires May 2018 #187
Your semantic quibbling - inaccurate, by the way, because it WAS a slaughter - in the face of Squinch May 2018 #153
Thank you for sharing your perspective oberliner May 2018 #191
The truth, imo, is that both sides want the violence to continue. Oneironaut May 2018 #156
"Israel is bloodthirsty" oberliner May 2018 #190
This is such a sad business..... spicysista May 2018 #160
Shooting unarmed civilians is fucking murder. orangecrush May 2018 #173
You debate semantics but the children are still dead. If Israel can't take the heat they shouldn't TeamPooka May 2018 #177
.... spanone May 2018 #178
Go join the IDF before you speak JesterCS May 2018 #185
Post removed Post removed May 2018 #189
if you think oberliner is a bot you haven't been paying attention. Mosby May 2018 #193
If you have your facts right, I agree with you. GitRDun May 2018 #192
It's not a lie/myth Bradical79 May 2018 #204
Yes, it is oberliner May 2018 #205
That's what snipers do. Bradical79 May 2018 #206
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