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sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts) Tue May 15, 2018, 01:13 PM May 2018

Sign says "Black folks need to stay out of white churches" Your thoughts? [View all]

Just wondering what kind of reception this sign would get here.
Basically a white church is moving to a neighborhood in a predominantly black area and this sign has been put out ahead of the move. Follow the link for the story and the chance to vote on what you think of it.
http://www.wvtm13.com/article/birmingham-pastor-sends-message-to-church-of-the-highlands-with-controversial-sign/20690833

Fwiw, these are not my sentiments.

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Sign says "Black folks need to stay out of white churches" Your thoughts? [View all] sarah FAILIN May 2018 OP

Do you REALLY think the majority of DUers would condone such ugly racism? n/t hlthe2b May 2018 #1

I think it depends. sarah FAILIN May 2018 #5

"Some" people at DU could be counted on the fingers of one Hortensis May 2018 #189

You do realize that this is not a situation of white-on-black racism, do you not? WillowTree May 2018 #11

Interesting. Tipperary May 2018 #20

and my comment holds... n/t hlthe2b May 2018 #26

Just as racist and disgusting as if the new church had put it out Amishman May 2018 #184

Umm...yes it does excuse it... Fix The Stupid May 2018 #185

Yes, as long as the 'right' race is being impugned...of course. Fix The Stupid May 2018 #157

White folks need to go to actual churches. Girard442 May 2018 #2

Why do you ask or care? Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #3

I'm waiting to get a few more responses sarah FAILIN May 2018 #4

Most truely your Cleverness knoweth no bounds Codeine May 2018 #44

Should not be surprised angrychair May 2018 #6

A black pastor made the sign sarah FAILIN May 2018 #10

Yes angrychair May 2018 #28

When you ask for people's thoughts, it's best to tell your own first. MineralMan May 2018 #7

Would you feel the same.. sarah FAILIN May 2018 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author standingtall May 2018 #17

My deal sarah, that would not matter to me at all. MineralMan May 2018 #21

Look at my first post.. sarah FAILIN May 2018 #34

I'm sorry, but you still hid your intentions in your original post. MineralMan May 2018 #38

How could you be fooled?? sarah FAILIN May 2018 #45

Should I? I don't vote in polls like that one. MineralMan May 2018 #47

And you still don't acknowledge that I gave my opinion in the op. sarah FAILIN May 2018 #50

I acknowledge that you equivocated. MineralMan May 2018 #59

The OP used a BS article that told only a small portion of the story behind the sign... cynatnite May 2018 #93

+1 Ferrets are Cool May 2018 #54

Agreed brother. Glamrock May 2018 #107

Well, to be fair, it qualifies as BS no matter whose sentiment it represents. WillowTree May 2018 #23

A "white church" would be ... Odoreida May 2018 #9

Truthfully the new church is a very wealthy church sarah FAILIN May 2018 #14

Ah, the self-proclaimed DU School Marm is here to scold us all! FSogol May 2018 #32

Well, she has a point. Tipperary May 2018 #37

Err, the punchline is "PS. He's black! I bet all you liberals feel sorry now!" Ridiculous thread, FSogol May 2018 #61

If the church did not put out the sign, her point is perfectly valid. Blue_true May 2018 #101

It's not racist. NCTraveler May 2018 #62

Part of white privilege, oops, I used the W word, is to be able to INSIST Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #94

Aren't you calling a muffin a fat biscuit? Blue_true May 2018 #106

It's more like the difference between water going uphill, and water going downhill gollygee May 2018 #120

I completely agree. Nt NCTraveler May 2018 #113

Depends. Blue_true May 2018 #104

That is not a "depends" answer. NCTraveler May 2018 #112

I think that it is. Maybe there is more to this, but on it's face, it is racist. Blue_true May 2018 #115

A depends answer would include more than one option... NCTraveler May 2018 #117

Not really kind words. Blue_true May 2018 #119

So, did the church put out the sign or did someone who doesn't want the church there put it out? nt Blue_true May 2018 #99

It is the black church sign sarah FAILIN May 2018 #134

A lot of people here are bending over backward to show that they are not guilty of white privilege. Blue_true May 2018 #144

I don't understand it sarah FAILIN May 2018 #146

One thing that I took to heart a long time ago was knowing who I am. Blue_true May 2018 #149

Yes sarah FAILIN May 2018 #151

Good idea. nt Blue_true May 2018 #153

Using a different ID? Do you have a sock? George II May 2018 #181

The sign was posted by a black pastor of a predominantly "black" church. WillowTree May 2018 #16

I'm a bit confused ExciteBike66 May 2018 #12

Exactly sarah FAILIN May 2018 #22

I would say yes, it is a racist sentiment ExciteBike66 May 2018 #33

I agree with you sarah FAILIN May 2018 #36

in two of your replies you say WE ChubbyStar May 2018 #124

My co workers sarah FAILIN May 2018 #130

DEMOCRAT position? MoonRiver May 2018 #188

Church service hour is the most segregated hour in America. Blue_true May 2018 #108

I was invited to an all black church a few years ago louis-t May 2018 #13

WWJD. roamer65 May 2018 #15

Is it a sign from the pastor of a predominately black Baptist church telling AJT May 2018 #18

Yes sarah FAILIN May 2018 #24

This post is a trap. ret5hd May 2018 #19

Really I wanted to see what people here say sarah FAILIN May 2018 #27

Yeah, you so clever. ret5hd May 2018 #31

This one is patting herself on the back so much Codeine May 2018 #43

+1 radical noodle May 2018 #80

Lol sheshe2 May 2018 #133

I think you merely wanted to illustrate an example of a black person being intolerant. LanternWaste May 2018 #48

Close. sarah FAILIN May 2018 #55

Oh, your post was enlightening, Codeine May 2018 #88

You were disingenuous and it was a BS article that didn't tell the real story... cynatnite May 2018 #96

It is never racist sarah FAILIN May 2018 #141

Thanks, by the way, wanna see INTOLERANCE? Put non POC on the receiving end Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #95

You are exactly right...fail to understand why... Demsrule86 May 2018 #79

Here's an article for context gollygee May 2018 #25

More than one way to see something. Would be interested in input from the other side. WillowTree May 2018 #58

Which of you is closer... tonedevil May 2018 #63

Good for you!! WillowTree May 2018 #66

You stated it in such a way... tonedevil May 2018 #70

Once more, with feeling........ WillowTree May 2018 #74

So your knowledge... tonedevil May 2018 #75

Whatever. WillowTree May 2018 #100

For someone who doesn't enjoy it... tonedevil May 2018 #102

"...and they want them to leave and come to a church in their inner city." OriginalGeek May 2018 #76

.. underpants May 2018 #29

I don't have a problem with it. WhiskeyGrinder May 2018 #30

All Folks Should Stay Out OF All Churches Blue_Adept May 2018 #35

Religion rots your brain. NightWatcher May 2018 #46

As is politics, the nation-state and philosophy. LanternWaste May 2018 #52

This particular messenger.... spicysista May 2018 #39

Seems less than productive Bettie May 2018 #40

Oh you just keep on churning out the hits, dontcha? Codeine May 2018 #41

Someone here is FAILIN IronLionZion May 2018 #42

I don't think so. sarah FAILIN May 2018 #49

And not for the first time, Codeine May 2018 #51

All of the comments... tonedevil May 2018 #53

Well.. sarah FAILIN May 2018 #57

Thanks... tonedevil May 2018 #60

Well.. sarah FAILIN May 2018 #65

People love to pile on here. Tipperary May 2018 #69

people love to plie on? ChubbyStar May 2018 #125

I made a different profile a couple of months ago sarah FAILIN May 2018 #140

All I know is the postings... tonedevil May 2018 #77

There shouldn't be a "gotcha". sarah FAILIN May 2018 #145

The problem is that it has NOT been an education for you. kwassa May 2018 #86

Dayum, yes. ehrnst May 2018 #92

+1000 nt brer cat May 2018 #110

No it has been an education. sarah FAILIN May 2018 #142

Treating everyone the same is actually not enough. kwassa May 2018 #147

Because.. sarah FAILIN May 2018 #148

It is so difficult being white, isn't it? ehrnst May 2018 #187

The way you come off is a quite the opposite nini May 2018 #138

There's a term for people like that sweetloukillbot May 2018 #180

She made a spirited defense of sexism in the tech world Codeine May 2018 #83

It's good to be... tonedevil May 2018 #84

The very same. Codeine May 2018 #85

Churches rely on donations. Lose too many members and you lose your church and the pastor loses jalan48 May 2018 #56

I'm sorry JustAnotherGen May 2018 #64

So, apparently, does the "white" church. WillowTree May 2018 #68

We are Unitarian Universalist JustAnotherGen May 2018 #73

Sound like the doors are open to you. NCTraveler May 2018 #67

your OP is mercuryblues May 2018 #71

It's shit like this that makes me want to say Blue_Tires May 2018 #72

fuck these racist assholes. spanone May 2018 #78

Which ones? Tipperary May 2018 #81

WEEEEE ChubbyStar May 2018 #126

Great MaryMagdaline May 2018 #82

You really need to let the church know that JC wasn't really a blond, white guy. Vinca May 2018 #87

You misrepresent what really happened. You don't tell the real story. kwassa May 2018 #89

Well yeah, DUH, but if you tell the REAL story it wont be filled with innuendos and Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #97

I posted the news link that came on my tv. sarah FAILIN May 2018 #150

oh, you tried to hide everything by the way you set up your OP. kwassa May 2018 #156

No I did not. You ASSUMED sarah FAILIN May 2018 #159

No, I didn't, because I know a setup when I see one. kwassa May 2018 #162

You are funny sarah FAILIN May 2018 #164

And you are being dishonest kwassa May 2018 #165

Post removed Post removed May 2018 #167

The link didn't work when I tried it the other day. kwassa May 2018 #169

Do you really think we don't know what Jim Crow laws are? sarah FAILIN May 2018 #171

You don't. kwassa May 2018 #172

Oh no I do. sarah FAILIN May 2018 #174

This message was self-deleted by its author ChubbyStar May 2018 #179

The article itself is complete bullshit and does not tell the whole story... cynatnite May 2018 #90

The whole notion sounds ridiculous DFW May 2018 #91

Not surprised. Glamrock May 2018 #98

Yes, I think you nailed it. Tipperary May 2018 #103

I think you didn't read it. kwassa May 2018 #121

True that! Glamrock May 2018 #123

Uh, no. kwassa May 2018 #127

Maybe Glamrock May 2018 #128

It blew up into a big story when everyone misunderstood it. kwassa May 2018 #132

Okay. Glamrock May 2018 #135

Don't jump to conclusions. kwassa May 2018 #137

Alls I'm saying is Glamrock May 2018 #139

Context. He was talking to his neighborhood. kwassa May 2018 #143

Recommended. guillaumeb May 2018 #105

Clearly not, since the "stay out of white churches" message didn't come from the "white" church. WillowTree May 2018 #109

I did, actually. guillaumeb May 2018 #116

the church i grew up in and still attend was very white in a white area. times change so did the dembotoz May 2018 #111

There has always been a movement within communities of color to support each other... Caliman73 May 2018 #114

And yet, by his own statement, the Reverend acknowledges....... WillowTree May 2018 #122

What he it talking about is the relationship of the church to the community. kwassa May 2018 #136

Well, God isn't in there for sure. WhiteTara May 2018 #118

I don't agree with the Pastor or his sign Catherine Vincent May 2018 #129

I could be wrong, but I don't think the poster is concerned with context. salin May 2018 #131

It is a news story sarah FAILIN May 2018 #155

Some people are just assholes. Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #152

True. sarah FAILIN May 2018 #160

I've always thought churches should have a law and a sign "No Minors" nt fleabiscuit May 2018 #154

Perhaps the Church of the Highlands should have their marquee say....... WillowTree May 2018 #158

Good idea. sarah FAILIN May 2018 #161

Let's have everyone separate. Nobody get together and share ideas. Initech May 2018 #163

This whole argument is premised on the idea Generic Other May 2018 #166

Post removed Post removed May 2018 #168

You really don't get it. kwassa May 2018 #170

No I really do get it. sarah FAILIN May 2018 #173

Equity and equality are not the same thing. kwassa May 2018 #175

Equity? Really? sarah FAILIN May 2018 #176

You lost this argument. kwassa May 2018 #177

Be careful. The glass in that house you live in looks pretty thing. ehrnst May 2018 #182

Racists are much more likely to look at what YOU post and say, "Thanks for spreading the word!" Empowerer May 2018 #178

"A lot of people" here on DU are racist? ehrnst May 2018 #183

I think he is right edhopper May 2018 #186