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177. You debate semantics but the children are still dead. If Israel can't take the heat they shouldn't
Tue May 15, 2018, 05:34 PM
May 2018

kill children.

People here believe what they want to believe leftynyc May 2018 #1
Spot on. Tipperary May 2018 #2
Thank you, like many things in the Mideast, this is more complicated than a headline can express Amishman May 2018 #6
I am a strong supporter of Israel as a Jewish state, but it is not necessary to move Sophia4 May 2018 #12
How much more slowly would you like to move? leftynyc May 2018 #92
All true, but moving the embassy just makes that bad situation worse. Sophia4 May 2018 #113
Was no need to move that embassy, it was fine! Republicans & RW Israel-foment violence. Sunlei May 2018 #130
Let's see leftynyc May 2018 #158
As I recall, Jerusalem is a holy site for at least 3 religions and was not identified as an Sophia4 May 2018 #166
Yes I know leftynyc May 2018 #202
What does this mean? Sophia4 May 2018 #209
Meaning under any future agreement leftynyc May 2018 #210
The move precipitated the protests tazkcmo May 2018 #186
40000 people trying leftynyc May 2018 #201
You're so right Sophia. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #152
I'm just wondering leftynyc May 2018 #157
It should have been moved 23 years ago. grossproffit May 2018 #208
Can you explain the difference between "slaughtering unarmed children" and "killing kids"? muriel_volestrangler May 2018 #36
Slaughter means "kill (people or animals) in a cruel or violent way, typically in large numbers." oberliner May 2018 #42
Yes, shooting is violent; "typically" does not mean exclusively muriel_volestrangler May 2018 #47
I was unaware that slaughter was "cruel or violent" anyway jberryhill May 2018 #69
In a "cruel of violent way" jberryhill May 2018 #67
Epic fail. Use any trite phrase you like, it won't change the fact that Israel procon May 2018 #98
I'm still waiting for anyone leftynyc May 2018 #94
What children were doing where they live? I don't know, would you like them expelled muriel_volestrangler May 2018 #104
Gaza is 141 square mile... EX500rider May 2018 #167
Would I let my children go to a protest for their rights? muriel_volestrangler May 2018 #168
You would let your young children go to a Hamas inspired riot and attempted.. EX500rider May 2018 #171
What you call a riot, they all see as a protest - the only way to get the world muriel_volestrangler May 2018 #176
I must have missed the molotov cocktails at the MLK marches... EX500rider May 2018 #179
+1000 smirkymonkey May 2018 #197
It makes it impossible to have a discussion about this topic oberliner May 2018 #41
When people only want to blame one side leftynyc May 2018 #95
Yes, I feel the same way oberliner May 2018 #97
That is right wingers treestar May 2018 #131
Are you saying those children you agree were killed weren't "slaughtered"? uppityperson May 2018 #3
Only a small unspecified number jberryhill May 2018 #9
One is too many EffieBlack May 2018 #11
Yes, but Oberliner is objecting to the phrase "slaughter unarmed children" jberryhill May 2018 #13
Do you know how many children were "shot by snipers?" EffieBlack May 2018 #20
I believe that may be a good question to ask Oberliner jberryhill May 2018 #22
Dear GOD Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #53
My work is done here jberryhill May 2018 #61
Thank you uppityperson May 2018 #150
Well one of slaughter's definitions is "the act of killing'. So you can call it one. nt Kirk Lover May 2018 #34
Well a snipers bullet in the head is not 'slaughter' why just killing... ridiculous for the OP to Demsrule86 May 2018 #76
No babies were shot by snipers so that is just a lie oberliner May 2018 #43
Your OP refers to "unarmed children" jberryhill May 2018 #62
Well, they were probably "no angels" . . . hatrack May 2018 #121
I use "babies" in the colloquial sense - in my family, anybody under 10 referred to as a "baby" EffieBlack May 2018 #88
Why was an infant that close? Tipperary May 2018 #142
I saw hundreds of infants at the women's march. Were all those parents "asking for it?" Squinch May 2018 #154
Completely different situation. Tipperary May 2018 #195
The women's march? oberliner May 2018 #199
When live ammunition is used in a crowded situations, the problem bability that people will be still_one May 2018 #44
"sharpshooters. " nt NCTraveler May 2018 #27
i.e. - people who shoot what they are aiming at jberryhill May 2018 #28
No doubt about it. nt. NCTraveler May 2018 #33
To me, RandomAccess May 2018 #31
There is no evidence to support the claim that any child was killed by sniper shot oberliner May 2018 #45
You don't consider teens children? tavernier May 2018 #79
Yeah, but would you let you and yours into a situation like that border mess? Ligyron May 2018 #103
words matter Mosby May 2018 #194
Certainly they matter in a context where they have an agreed meaning jberryhill May 2018 #196
And because they were from the wrong liberalhistorian May 2018 #122
Or they were armed lame54 May 2018 #19
I think slaughter is an acceptable word. NCTraveler May 2018 #4
Thank you for your words of wisdom! cornball 24 May 2018 #30
That's very fair (n/t) leftynyc May 2018 #96
Soldier with a sniper rifle from a safe distance shooting a child with a rock isn't slaughter? NoMoreRepugs May 2018 #5
+1 RandomAccess May 2018 #32
Slaughter usually means killing large numbers oberliner May 2018 #46
Usually it does - rock throwing, even molotov cocktail throwing vs nested sniper is SLAUGHTER to me. NoMoreRepugs May 2018 #145
I have empathy for both the Israelis and Palestinians. DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #7
I agree. Sophia4 May 2018 #10
Still, moving the American embassy to Jerusalem was intended to incite anger Sophia4 May 2018 #8
Everything you said EffieBlack May 2018 #17
They're attributing a lot of the protest to Hamas organization, as did our loathesome Ambassador maxsolomon May 2018 #14
" I just know there's got to be a better way. " DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #16
Rump did this to cause killings to show off to his deplorable base who get OFF on seeing Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #59
Eliot, you use the term "brown people" for Palestinians ProudLib72 May 2018 #115
Slaughter is slaughter angrychair May 2018 #15
They didn't use to be trapped in Gaza hack89 May 2018 #18
So that makes it right? angrychair May 2018 #25
" I find it perplexing that a people that lived through what they did..." oberliner May 2018 #51
Speaking of the Jewish people angrychair May 2018 #71
Collectiive punishment treestar May 2018 #105
And argue about whether these mothers' children's murders may appropriately be called a "slaughter." EffieBlack May 2018 #21
I'll have you know that the air conditioning in my restaurant is off jberryhill May 2018 #23
I wonder why they can't cross the Gaza border with Eygpt? EX500rider May 2018 #138
Exactly, oberliner madaboutharry May 2018 #24
"The spreading of this lie needs to stop" jberryhill May 2018 #26
The lie is in quotation marks oberliner May 2018 #63
Okay, could you define "slaughter unarmed children" jberryhill May 2018 #65
An 8 month old child died from inhaling tear gas. That's enough for me. Vinca May 2018 #29
Gazan doctor, Israel cast doubts over Hamas claim infant died from tear gas oberliner May 2018 #60
I would still think Israel is being too heavy handed. Vinca May 2018 #110
Agreed oberliner May 2018 #114
maybe taking your 8 month old baby to a riot in progress is a bad idea. EX500rider May 2018 #140
Tear gas travels. Given the amount it appears was being used, nowhere is safe. Vinca May 2018 #151
Gaza is a 141 square miles. EX500rider May 2018 #155
It probably doesn't matter anyway. By now her parents are probably dead, too. Vinca May 2018 #169
Why would that be? EX500rider May 2018 #170
Oh, for heaven's sake. I already said above I think Israel is being heavy handed. Vinca May 2018 #172
"I have no idea who is or is not dead, wounded or otherwise indisposed and neither do you" EX500rider May 2018 #175
Wow is it that SMALL? City of Houston is 627 square miles lostnfound May 2018 #198
Has lots of empty space: EX500rider May 2018 #200
Isreal gets a pass for the holocaust Liberalhammer May 2018 #35
What the hell? oberliner May 2018 #58
Enjoy your brief stay. n/t Still In Wisconsin May 2018 #87
Europe and the United States and most of the World Liberalhammer May 2018 #125
I'm sick of seeing that leftynyc May 2018 #99
More than that MosheFeingold May 2018 #123
Idiots among us Liberalhammer May 2018 #126
Post removed Post removed May 2018 #134
Seriously Liberalhammer May 2018 #137
You know what I disagree with Liberalhammer May 2018 #143
No but the holocaust crack is. marble falls May 2018 #165
The apartheid lie is an Iranian propaganda meme intended to provoke violence and hatred. Fozzledick May 2018 #180
Lol, yeah, Israelis are time travelers Bradical79 May 2018 #207
In the interest of painting an accurate picture, WaPo is saying there were no Israeli casualties. Girard442 May 2018 #37
Thankfully oberliner May 2018 #57
What else are you thankful for? R B Garr May 2018 #81
Yes, because those are apparently liberalhistorian May 2018 #163
Thus ends the moral authority of the Jews: How many Kids do you need to have a slaughter? doxyluv13 May 2018 #38
The moral authority of the Jews? oberliner May 2018 #56
Have the ADL, the Wiesenthal Center or any major Jewish organizations condemned this crap? doxyluv13 May 2018 #182
What the fuck are you babbling about? leftynyc May 2018 #100
It's Peter Beinart's Crisis of Zionism come to life. doxyluv13 May 2018 #183
I'm guessing IDF bullets grant instant adulthood, with a bonus Hamas membership. denbot May 2018 #39
Look at the Gaza Ministry of Health list oberliner May 2018 #55
Should they be allowed to be enlisted or get married? wellst0nev0ter May 2018 #164
How many Israeli troops died?? PubliusEnigma May 2018 #40
zero Exotica May 2018 #48
Thankfully, none oberliner May 2018 #54
I am blocking you. I don't what your game is but this is an appalling post....one of the worst I Demsrule86 May 2018 #77
That's his job. ret5hd May 2018 #80
maybe...I can't believe any poster would argue that multiple kids must be 'killed' for it to rise Demsrule86 May 2018 #162
You're blocking someone leftynyc May 2018 #101
I am blocking someone who opines that shooting children in the head is not slaughter but merely Demsrule86 May 2018 #161
Yeah, those 50,00 Hamas led criminlas should sit in their own filth The Polack MSgt May 2018 #49
See this: MineralMan May 2018 #50
Yes - everyone should go to that link oberliner May 2018 #52
How many have to die before this rises to your threshold of "slaughter"? Denzil_DC May 2018 #64
Something like this oberliner May 2018 #86
So in the face of an atrocity like that, Denzil_DC May 2018 #89
If it had happened anywhere else MFM008 May 2018 #66
Civilians (including children) are actually being slaughtered around the world every day oberliner May 2018 #68
Yes MFM008 May 2018 #72
Not by an alleged bastion of democracy... a la izquierda May 2018 #203
"a small number of kids" The_Casual_Observer May 2018 #70
It's definitely better that only a small number of teenagers were killed than a large number oberliner May 2018 #73
"only" Denzil_DC May 2018 #75
Seems self evident that fewer deaths is better than more deaths oberliner May 2018 #85
It seems self-evident that you're determined to minimize what's happened. n/t Denzil_DC May 2018 #93
There is no minimizing what happened oberliner May 2018 #120
Good. Denzil_DC May 2018 #159
Oh Jesus, please. The_Casual_Observer May 2018 #78
I have fewer dead kids buried in my basement than John Wayne Gacy did jberryhill May 2018 #90
It is not a lie...children have died and not just yesterday...a giant fuck you to Israel...I will Demsrule86 May 2018 #74
Yes, it is oberliner May 2018 #84
Think it was a false flag operation? Orsino May 2018 #82
No, of course not oberliner May 2018 #83
Israel has become its own enemy. PubliusEnigma May 2018 #91
Okay I condemn their actions HopeAgain May 2018 #102
How about "Israel brutally puts down prison riot"? Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #106
Gaza has a border with Egypt oberliner May 2018 #118
Hey, don't point out the double standard MosheFeingold May 2018 #135
Some of the thinly veiled anti-Semitism in this thread is rather alarming. nt LexVegas May 2018 #107
Because uncomfortable questions treestar May 2018 #111
"Israel gets a pass for the Holocaust." "Thus ends the moral authority of the Jews..." LexVegas May 2018 #119
It does raise an issue treestar May 2018 #128
Explain to me what the "moral authority of the Jews" is and how they "get a pass for the Holocaust". LexVegas May 2018 #129
All you have to do is treestar May 2018 #133
Anti-Semitism? Liberalhammer May 2018 #132
Defending your border from Hamas operatives hiding in a protest and .. EX500rider May 2018 #144
I guess the UN investigation Liberalhammer May 2018 #146
Half the planet doesn't even recognize Israel's existence as a country oberliner May 2018 #188
Thinly veiled?? Seems pretty obvious to me. Fozzledick May 2018 #184
slingshots & bottle rockets v.up to date US military weapons, easy to see the Israelis had no other mulsh May 2018 #108
They have every right to protest and Israel should not have used live ammo against them oberliner May 2018 #117
The whole Palestinian issue could have been solved... MicaelS May 2018 #109
That means open borders treestar May 2018 #136
No, it does not mean open borders. MicaelS May 2018 #211
So they are not allowed to treestar May 2018 #112
Hamas only allows them to organize certain kinds of protests oberliner May 2018 #116
Vague treestar May 2018 #124
Then Israel should post CLEAR PICTURES of "armed squads" with "Explosive devices" Sunlei May 2018 #127
I just hope you're this understanding next time some Israeli kids end up dead... Blue_Tires May 2018 #139
I'm not at all understanding and I completely and wholeheartedly condemn the Israeli actions oberliner May 2018 #149
Among the dead were eight children, including eight-month-old Laila Anwar Ghandour. spanone May 2018 #141
Why was a baby there? Tipperary May 2018 #181
Wow Johnny2X2X May 2018 #147
I'm certain then that proof will be forthcoming from the IDF, right?? Blue_Tires May 2018 #148
From the video footage I saw that was exactly how the "relief" boat episode went. EX500rider May 2018 #174
Sorry, you'll have to do better than wiki Blue_Tires May 2018 #187
Your semantic quibbling - inaccurate, by the way, because it WAS a slaughter - in the face of Squinch May 2018 #153
Thank you for sharing your perspective oberliner May 2018 #191
The truth, imo, is that both sides want the violence to continue. Oneironaut May 2018 #156
"Israel is bloodthirsty" oberliner May 2018 #190
This is such a sad business..... spicysista May 2018 #160
Shooting unarmed civilians is fucking murder. orangecrush May 2018 #173
You debate semantics but the children are still dead. If Israel can't take the heat they shouldn't TeamPooka May 2018 #177
.... spanone May 2018 #178
Go join the IDF before you speak JesterCS May 2018 #185
Post removed Post removed May 2018 #189
if you think oberliner is a bot you haven't been paying attention. Mosby May 2018 #193
If you have your facts right, I agree with you. GitRDun May 2018 #192
It's not a lie/myth Bradical79 May 2018 #204
Yes, it is oberliner May 2018 #205
That's what snipers do. Bradical79 May 2018 #206
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