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Alea

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63. This is a good reply

Wed May 16, 2018, 05:04 PM

May 2018

and thank you for not being condescending. I agree with everything you said, just not sure how much of that could be done here. I'm thinking the time between the taser not stopping the guy and his continuing his charge was almost all one movement. It seems like the time to subdue him was when he was rolling around the interstate. I believe there were other cops there or just arriving on scene that maybe could have acted faster. I think once the guy turned and charged the officer, everything happened really fast.

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Add "Being Naked While Black" to the list: "Being Naked Doesn't Remove the Threat" [View all] EffieBlack May 2018 OP

So much for strip searches. They clearly don't work. kwassa May 2018 #1

The man was likely mentally ill and posed no threat-especially to a trained law enforcement officer EffieBlack May 2018 #3

Mentally ill? oberliner May 2018 #5

Yes, mentally ill EffieBlack May 2018 #6

His mother does not indicate that her son was mentally ill oberliner May 2018 #7

Whatever EffieBlack May 2018 #8

Your thoughtful responses are always appreciated oberliner May 2018 #104

He was not behaving in a sane manner. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2018 #10

That does not mean he was mentally ill oberliner May 2018 #103

Come on, mentally ill? That's only for white mass shooters. Geeze. ck4829 May 2018 #44

Really gollygee May 2018 #87

Ahh doesn't matter JustAnotherGen May 2018 #26

WTF? How can being naked not remove a threat? The Velveteen Ocelot May 2018 #2

George Zimmerman's lawyer claimed Trayvon's weapon was the sidewalk EffieBlack May 2018 #4

Ever watch Captain Jack Harkness in Dr Who with Anndroid? uppityperson May 2018 #82

Kick EffieBlack May 2018 #9

What would you have done? Alea May 2018 #11

I certainly hope you aren't in law enforcement EffieBlack May 2018 #12

I notice you didn't answer the poster's question, did you? X_Digger May 2018 #13

Because it was a stupid question that didn't merit a response. EffieBlack May 2018 #14

No, it's a perfectly valid question, you just choose to ignore it because it's uncomfortable. X_Digger May 2018 #15

Or maybe it really is a leading question, designed with its own inherent narrative. LanternWaste May 2018 #16

Aww look, a defender pops up. X_Digger May 2018 #18

This is a discussion board. People join conversations. NCTraveler May 2018 #21

Especially responses to uncomfortable questions, no doubt. n/t X_Digger May 2018 #24

Things can be deemed uncomfortable for numerous reasons. NCTraveler May 2018 #27

Especially when they popped into the thread to attack someone for not answering someone else's EffieBlack May 2018 #40

I'm going to say yes to both of your suggestions JustAnotherGen May 2018 #30

So you'd take a beating, potentially letting a disturbed individual get your gun? Okay.. X_Digger May 2018 #38

I wish James Shaw Jr. Was JustAnotherGen May 2018 #43

There's that false dichotomy again. There are more possibilities than shoot or take a beating while uppityperson May 2018 #84

If a cop is so poorly trained (or just stupid) that he can't engage in the first levels of subduing EffieBlack May 2018 #86

++++++++ uppityperson May 2018 #89

Are police batons not a thing anymore? gollygee May 2018 #88

Good thing there wasn't a cop on the scene, from recent events the officer probably would.... George II May 2018 #52

Um - that's a really good point EXCEPT JustAnotherGen May 2018 #55

An unarmed black man who can take down an armed white man is threat EffieBlack May 2018 #67

Says a person who jumped in the thread to demand to know why I didn't answer someone else's question EffieBlack May 2018 #39

Post removed Post removed May 2018 #41

They always demand shit from you Effie JustAnotherGen May 2018 #45

Yep - as to them. You are awesome ... EffieBlack May 2018 #48

LOL Alea May 2018 #23

I answered your question. Care to respond? Or do you and your wingman just want to keep playing dumb EffieBlack May 2018 #46

Actually, you didn't answer Alea May 2018 #57

You obviously can read, but seem to be having trouble with comprehension EffieBlack May 2018 #65

So, problem solved, problem staying solved Alea May 2018 #70

Thank you, good summary uppityperson May 2018 #85

You're welcome EffieBlack May 2018 #99

I tried to give this example Lantern JustAnotherGen May 2018 #32

I gave them an answer JustAnotherGen May 2018 #29

Indeed EffieBlack May 2018 #71

See how conditioned we are, that if police cant subdue you Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #76

Yep EffieBlack May 2018 #78

OK, maybe I won't go into law enforcement but... Alea May 2018 #17

I made a point downthread before I had read this. NCTraveler May 2018 #22

This is police training 101 EffieBlack May 2018 #31

Here are some tactics that the officer could have used atreides1 May 2018 #49

This is a good reply Alea May 2018 #63

You agree with everything the person posted there? Not from where I stand, you dont. Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #77

In my personal experience if you don't have a gun you've got nothing to worry about. hunter May 2018 #59

Taze him again JustAnotherGen May 2018 #28

Only white people who massacre lots of people get the Burger King treatment ... EffieBlack May 2018 #33

Only black citizens in Waffle Houses JustAnotherGen May 2018 #35

But black men are scary EffieBlack May 2018 #36

I want to say/write something JustAnotherGen May 2018 #37

Are you saying GaryCnf May 2018 #69

Fair question. cwydro May 2018 #72

Shot him in the knee. GeorgeGist Sep 2019 #107

Here's how the police in Japan handle this... hunter May 2018 #19

A naked guy with a stick and they still didn't shoot him! The Velveteen Ocelot May 2018 #53

What we KNOW is if that was a black man in America he would be dead now. Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #79

I think it is a fair statement. NCTraveler May 2018 #20

I am not commenting on this story in particular....but: EX500rider May 2018 #25

Shit - James Shaw jr JustAnotherGen May 2018 #34

Useless statistic. Which is more lethal, naked man or AR-15? kwassa May 2018 #42

Yeah - there's that kwassa JustAnotherGen May 2018 #47

According to FBI statistics the naked man by 2x. EX500rider May 2018 #51

No EffieBlack May 2018 #56

My whole point is that unarmed people kill twice as many people as ALL rifles.. EX500rider May 2018 #60

How many armed, trained POLICE OFFICERS are killed by unarmed people vs. armed people EffieBlack May 2018 #62

This message was self-deleted by its author EffieBlack May 2018 #66

11,004 died from guns, 656 beaten to death. Your link. kwassa May 2018 #91

I only mentioned rifles. I know pistols are the major killer.. EX500rider May 2018 #92

Guns used in their normal manner kill people. That is their purpose. kwassa May 2018 #93

So something that is not designed to kill people kills more people then something that is.. EX500rider May 2018 #94

It is. kwassa May 2018 #95

Good luck with that. EX500rider May 2018 #96

here we go into the gungeon .... kwassa May 2018 #97

What did i post that was false? EX500rider May 2018 #98

Your understanding of lethality is false. kwassa May 2018 #100

Actually homicide rates and gun control laws and gun ownership rates are not very connected. EX500rider May 2018 #101

There is nothing about gun control laws in your chart. kwassa May 2018 #102

Because I already mentioned them. EX500rider May 2018 #105

Well if you say so, with all those facts who could argue? lol EX500rider May 2018 #106

LOL, it really is ck4829 May 2018 #54

Gun fetishes are disgusting. hunter May 2018 #61

So FBI statistics gun fetish to you? lol EX500rider May 2018 #73

I don't let anyone I'd care to shoot live in my head. hunter May 2018 #74

I bet more people were killed by toddlers last year than nuclear weapons gollygee May 2018 #64

That also means that, when confronted with a toddler, police should just shoot them EffieBlack May 2018 #68

I've been hit, kicked, and bit by toddlers... hunter May 2018 #80

And don't even TALK about the germs they bring home from daycare EffieBlack May 2018 #81

K&R ck4829 May 2018 #50

What would have removed the threat? John Fante May 2018 #58

They sure love to kill malaise May 2018 #75

I don't know what caused the victim's behavior tazkcmo May 2018 #83

Schoolteacher and VCU honors graduate: Blue_Tires May 2018 #90