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Response to louis c (Reply #70)

Fri Aug 3, 2012, 12:11 AM

78. Yep, bad math on my part

 

First off no, Afghanistan has not been a longer war. Vietnam still has one year on it (remember, we were sending "advisers" in pretty early on... those "advisers" were armed and taking part in the fighting.) You'll also note the relative body counts between the two. Both for us and our "enemies." There's a pretty big difference between the two engagements in that regard.

Ypu think whatever you like, but it's not fact. The draft went on for the entirety of the Vietnam war, as well as the entirety of the Korean War, and every other war back to the Civil War. You think Vietnam was nasty and against popular sentiment? Research our war in the Philippines.

What ended Vietnam was the fact that the Vietnamese people defeated us. The United States went in to "defeat communism," never considering for a moment that the people of "South Vietnam" wanted communism. We were attempting to pacify an extremely popular revolution in a nation we were ill-equipped to fight in. The Vietnamese won. Eleven years after our first guns started firing, we noticed that we had done nothing but lose ground, at high cost in lives and money, and decided to cut losses and pull out.

This is something that you and those of your generation on the right have on common. Neither of you can stop and admit that the Vietnam war didn't "end," it was lost. It doesn't sink into your head that the causes for this loss were in Vietnam, and not in whatever town you were living in at the time. It wasn't protests, it wasn't "lack of will to win," it was simply that the Viet Cong had the overwhelming popular support of the South Vietnamese and the backing of the NVA, and our military was unable to overcome that.

If you want a draft, take your spotted wrinkly ass and go fight. I'm not going to put my butt on the line so you can relive some dumb fucking fantasy that never happened in the first place.

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