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Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
59. Things get worse because the dominant narrative is absurd.
Thu May 31, 2018, 05:55 AM
May 2018

We live in a society in which the dominant narrative says the likes of Collins and McCain are "moderates," while The Platform of TM4BL (as an example) is "extremist." That's severely f***ed up. There has not been sufficient pushback against this narrative, ceding turf to the GOP as a result (even as the Democratic Party platform gets increasingly progressive in nature). This is what compromise, or "reaching across the aisle," has looked like over the last several decades:

<img src="" alt="Image result for obama and republican compromise cartoon"/>

The problem is that today's centrists... the few that are around... are yesterday's far right. lapfog_1 May 2018 #1
I don't think that's true. They would have been more on the right in the past, pnwmom May 2018 #11
I don't think that's true at all. Honeycombe8 May 2018 #12
"fiscally for-the-rich and pro-business, etc. " disillusioned73 May 2018 #22
The Republicans have always been this way, in my memory. Honeycombe8 May 2018 #23
+1 PDittie May 2018 #37
A lot of people are at the point where they want to burn shit down. Blue_true May 2018 #2
Could you provide a list of demagogues on the left? DURHAM D May 2018 #3
Not a fan of getting my posts hidden--so no blake2012 May 2018 #4
I don't believe such a list would be hidden so DURHAM D May 2018 #5
I do. And I had a post hidden for just such a statement blake2012 May 2018 #6
Yesterdays Radical Left is todays centrism Yesterdays centrism is today's Radical Right LostOne4Ever May 2018 #7
By their very definition, moderates are slower adopters of change than radicals blake2012 May 2018 #9
Completely disagree with.. Kentonio May 2018 #31
Centrist are to slow in recognnizing extremes standingtall May 2018 #8
Broad brush, much? blake2012 May 2018 #10
To the contrary, I think they're the first to notice. Honeycombe8 May 2018 #13
Im a Democrat angrychair May 2018 #14
No. If deals were to be made, it is with moderates on the other side of the aisle blake2012 May 2018 #17
Disagree PDittie May 2018 #39
I very clearly did not give the farther left in Dem caucus the false equivalence blake2012 May 2018 #42
Disagree PDittie May 2018 #47
Ugghh. If that's what you want to hang your hat on blake2012 May 2018 #54
One person's radical is another person's reasonable. Garrett78 May 2018 #63
The gesture is admirable angrychair May 2018 #45
Agree. Well said. PDittie May 2018 #48
"... and always have been." OilemFirchen May 2018 #53
There is one-offs in everything angrychair May 2018 #57
And Eisenhower spoke out against the military industrial complex. Garrett78 May 2018 #64
Things get worse because the dominant narrative is absurd. Garrett78 May 2018 #59
+10000000000000. N/T angrychair May 2018 #66
This cartoon sums up what compromise has looked like over the last several decades: Garrett78 May 2018 #62
I truly think that part of the problem is that the Internet tends to keep the two sides from talking Stonepounder May 2018 #15
Perfect illustration and I agree about not only the internet but our overly curated lives blake2012 May 2018 #18
the problem with centrism is that it exists between the left and wherever the fuck the right decides JCanete May 2018 #16
Agreed. Which is why MLK said the arc of history is long but bends toward justicd blake2012 May 2018 #20
... demmiblue May 2018 #24
I love this.. disillusioned73 May 2018 #26
I know (she is a cartoonist from Australia). demmiblue May 2018 #29
See post #59. Garrett78 May 2018 #60
The problem with "centrism".. disillusioned73 May 2018 #19
My values have gotten more liberal since the 80's and others have too. Key policy areas show blake2012 May 2018 #21
I agree.. disillusioned73 May 2018 #25
+1. Some of us have started to recognize this skewing... ck4829 May 2018 #27
Yup.. disillusioned73 May 2018 #28
A pretty apt description ck4829 May 2018 #33
No, I don't like insidious fake-disillusionment messages. Hortensis May 2018 #34
There is nothing "fake" about it.. disillusioned73 May 2018 #35
Particularly vulnerable for 2 decades, targeted for 2 decades. Hortensis May 2018 #36
Vulnerable, no.. targeted, only after opening my eyes.. disillusioned73 May 2018 #38
Wouldn't criticizing our use of power be more satisfying Hortensis May 2018 #40
I never said "don't bother voting".. disillusioned73 May 2018 #49
So, you're going to vote and talk 3 others out of it? Hortensis May 2018 #50
I have no nefarious hidden agenda.. disillusioned73 May 2018 #51
Of course you don't. That's actually part of the point. Hortensis May 2018 #52
This blake2012 May 2018 #43
Of course. This is evil-right's noise as they figh for existence. Hortensis May 2018 #30
This would suggest centrism represents a true center. It doesn't. Kentonio May 2018 #32
Prolonged massive economic disparity is the greatest threat to Democracy Uncle Joe May 2018 #41
You're welcome and I agree with your post blake2012 May 2018 #44
Well I disagree with your post of equivalence, being mad and getting mad are two different things Uncle Joe May 2018 #46
Almost all our problems are caused by the religious takeover of the republicans GulfCoast66 May 2018 #55
Here's a flash-card reference point: OilemFirchen May 2018 #56
Well put. I agree blake2012 May 2018 #58
The issue with capitalism is it's rooted in the principle of neverending growth on a finite planet. Garrett78 May 2018 #61
Just got back from a trip to Berlin. Lots of history there of one scenario of when the center fails pampango May 2018 #65
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