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63. It needs action and by talking about it ...we can get action. Otherwise we are no different from the

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J. Sanders: If the Democratic party doesn't become progressive, there will be a third party [View all] KitSileya Jun 2018 OP

Screw these threats. Carrying water for the GOP with this BS. bettyellen Jun 2018 #1

I agree. It is a very worrisome signal months before the most important midterms ever. KitSileya Jun 2018 #2

It does carry a whiff of that DFW Jun 2018 #9

Post removed Post removed Jun 2018 #32

Substantive changes like throwing issues that concern minorities overboard, KitSileya Jun 2018 #34

Nailed it. (Thank you.) NurseJackie Jun 2018 #65

Bingo! pandr32 Jun 2018 #127

Even when they're smart enough to outright say screw POC and women they hint how it's "not a winner" bettyellen Jun 2018 #148

Don't you know that we need to focus on white male voters only Gothmog Jun 2018 #151

in what example? When Sanders said "identity politics", the very context of it was that you JCanete Jun 2018 #165

+1 Meadowoak Jun 2018 #59

Does this mean she will Release the Tax Returns ? JI7 Jun 2018 #3

Of course not. comradebillyboy Jun 2018 #58

Transparency only applies to little people. nt Blue_true Jun 2018 #106

It's already happening in California, with more independents than republicans ansible Jun 2018 #4

no, the democratic party is NOT becoming a third party in California JI7 Jun 2018 #5

Well, if the party being replaced is the Republicans, I'm not going to holler too much KitSileya Jun 2018 #7

A lot of those "independents" are former Republicans, not former Democrats... Hekate Jun 2018 #12

That's not how it works. seaglass Jun 2018 #29

In addition, people not registered to a party still tend to vote one party or the other tammywammy Jun 2018 #92

Correct. I am registered unenrolled and ALWAYS vote D. There are many reasons people don't seaglass Jun 2018 #135

I tend to think they do not "belong" to a party for other reasons. tonyt53 Jun 2018 #150

NPP is increasing because of automatic registration at the DMV RandySF Jun 2018 #107

Isn't the definition of independent mean one who isn't tied to a party? brush Jun 2018 #109

The vast majority of so-called independents are highly partisan. Garrett78 Jun 2018 #147

There already is a goddamn third party Blue_Tires Jun 2018 #180

What thee ever lovin' frick.... eom sprinkleeninow Jun 2018 #6

her chance to be first you know what is slipping away lol nt msongs Jun 2018 #8

In his own way, Trump was a 3rd party candidate, a phony populist & not a Republican Hekate Jun 2018 #10

Disagree. shanny Jun 2018 #24

The GOP has relied on racism since Nixon's southern strategy Gothmog Jun 2018 #153

That's what I said. shanny Jun 2018 #193

Or just as the gop ignore the libertarian folks and now deal with a libertarian party dembotoz Jun 2018 #11

This message was self-deleted by its author chwaliszewski Jun 2018 #13

If someone is willing to sacrifice the lives of others because they won't vote Dem KitSileya Jun 2018 #14

and usually i find it's women or some minorities rights they want to give up JI7 Jun 2018 #16

arrogance like this helps us snatch defeat from the jaws of victory time after time dembotoz Jun 2018 #37

Should we sacrifice someone's rights, lives or safety to appeal to a privileged group? KitSileya Jun 2018 #40

such melodrama dembotoz Jun 2018 #45

Tearing children from their mother's arms is melodrama? lunamagica Jun 2018 #61

Becomes melodrama if it results in no action dembotoz Jun 2018 #62

It needs action and by talking about it ...we can get action. Otherwise we are no different from the Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #63

Yeah, remember all the DACA outrage??.. disillusioned73 Jun 2018 #91

Ah, I am glad you asked ...first of all there is a court order helping at the moment and some in Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #95

Didn't ask anything.. made a statement disillusioned73 Jun 2018 #104

+ a million! lunamagica Jun 2018 #46

+++ brer cat Jun 2018 #60

Dems should absolutely ignore those folks whose ideas will cause us to lose multiple elections Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #36

Wait, Raysawesome34 Jun 2018 #191

Yeah and why did we lose...who whined and cried about not getting single payer and stabbed Pres. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #197

That's a lot to unpack. Raysawesome34 Jun 2018 #207

The Libertarian Party is a nonentity jmowreader Jun 2018 #89

And that's hurting them so badly kcr Jun 2018 #100

Progressives believe in transparency. Candidates who don't release tax returns don't. pnwmom Jun 2018 #15

Very good point. calimary Jun 2018 #17

I don't think that Bernie gets away with the tax returns release dance this time around. Blue_true Jun 2018 #110

And from the way JS ran that college into the ground why would anyone follow her... brush Jun 2018 #111

I believe she is correct Sherman A1 Jun 2018 #18

What adjustments...we have the most progressive platform in our history and it does no Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #38

Perhaps we need to run more progressive candidates Sherman A1 Jun 2018 #43

A strong progressive message will not have appeal in red districts and the idea that Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #53

We are not going to agree on this topic Sherman A1 Jun 2018 #66

That is why we lose. This idea that a 'real' progressive can win everywhere including red states is Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #70

Try it in a red district then treestar Jun 2018 #203

So, you appeal to people with a message that they are prone to reject. Blue_true Jun 2018 #114

I'm one of his "ilk" Sherman A1 Jun 2018 #138

You mean the way she ran that college into the ground you trust her judgment? brush Jun 2018 #112

Didn't she get a tax preparer of the year award? NCTraveler Jun 2018 #19

Hahah...+1000 Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #39

Oh, what a beautiful post! lunamagica Jun 2018 #47

Haaahaa..Best Post Award goes to this 😉 Wwcd Jun 2018 #159

Yes, that's what JS should be doing.. Right NOW Cha Jun 2018 #170

now that is a silly ass assesment...but have at it." pissed off at how progressive the party's JCanete Jun 2018 #194

No doubt it's low hanging fruit. Great point. NCTraveler Jun 2018 #195

I'd like to urge... Mike Nelson Jun 2018 #20

Nice Party ya got here. Be a shame if something were ta happen to it The Polack MSgt Jun 2018 #21

Exactly the quote I was thinking about when I read her crap. justhanginon Jun 2018 #48

I do hope this is not True Blue American Jun 2018 #22

Post removed Post removed Jun 2018 #23

+1 shanny Jun 2018 #25

What are Jane Sanders' political "credentials"? What has she done politically that would convince.. George II Jun 2018 #26

You've also held public office more than Michelle Obama. progressoid Jun 2018 #54

I may have missed it, but Michelle Obama has never railed about reforming a political party.... George II Jun 2018 #67

You may have missed it. progressoid Jun 2018 #72

Now you're punking us. George II Jun 2018 #73

Nope. progressoid Jun 2018 #87

So which party does Michelle Obama propose to reform? Or was she just pointing out... George II Jun 2018 #90

So, you didn't actually listen to Jane's comments did you. progressoid Jun 2018 #97

Ha!! :-D NurseJackie Jun 2018 #76

IKR? progressoid Jun 2018 #82

Whoosh! NurseJackie Jun 2018 #84

Indeed. progressoid Jun 2018 #88

Nice try. Jane's meaning was clear. She was making THREATS. NurseJackie Jun 2018 #105

+1, totally agree. No way was she out there unscripted. R B Garr Jun 2018 #175

It's a safe bet that Mrs. Obama wouldn't start spouting-off about things she knows nothing about. NurseJackie Jun 2018 #69

It's a safe bet that you didn't actually listen to Mrs. Sanders comments. progressoid Jun 2018 #78

LOL! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: NurseJackie Jun 2018 #81

Ah, the derisive laughter response again. progressoid Jun 2018 #83

Jane's threat was clear. Easily understood. Your denials don't change anything. NurseJackie Jun 2018 #98

Oh, you're back. progressoid Jun 2018 #117

"Whatabout, whatabout, whatabout!" --- LOL! NurseJackie Jun 2018 #124

Yay, the dismissive gifs are back! progressoid Jun 2018 #139

"Google alerts" --- HA! :rofl: NurseJackie Jun 2018 #168

Sorry, didn't mean to kill you. progressoid Jun 2018 #183

GMAFB! Lies and smears are destructive, not "criticism". NurseJackie Jun 2018 #188

NOBODY in the Democratic Party needs a "heads up" Cha Jun 2018 #173

She has none whatsoever. She's making self-serving threats. By denigrating the Democratic party... NurseJackie Jun 2018 #55

Exactly, Jackie.. "self-serving" threats. Cha Jun 2018 #174

This was NOT some rogue action. It was NOT a spontaneous attack and threat. NurseJackie Jun 2018 #176

Too True, Jackie. This is Cha Jun 2018 #177

Agreed. After all, she's the one who tweeted... NurseJackie Jun 2018 #181

She is a failed College president mcar Jun 2018 #185

Right. She's not the one. She should stick to running colleges. Oh, wait... brush Jun 2018 #113

Oh you're bad! And that's gooood! :rofl: NurseJackie Jun 2018 #126

I hear she applied for a job as a loan officer at People's Bank! George II Jun 2018 #161

You mean "ruining colleges" lunamagica Jun 2018 #171

Wut. betsuni Jun 2018 #27

democratic party is the big tent party, america is NOT a left-center country, but a centter-left beachbum bob Jun 2018 #28

There, their and theyre...... Fullduplexxx Jun 2018 #30

You should take that to twitter and tell Carol Leonard, KitSileya Jun 2018 #33

I was in no way pointing that at you Fullduplexxx Jun 2018 #50

It should have been their's. nt Snotcicles Jun 2018 #51

And To Think She Ran A College Me. Jun 2018 #129

theyre oasis Jun 2018 #44

Apostrophe pls. brush Jun 2018 #120

pls. See #30. oasis Jun 2018 #128

#30 also needs an apostrophe. brush Jun 2018 #132

I subtly pointed that out to #30. oasis Jun 2018 #134

better not read e.e. cummings youll be smacking yourself silly Fullduplexxx Jun 2018 #154

Where are your tax returns, Jane? yardwork Jun 2018 #31

Let's see here, we have babies in cages, students being killed, and a lunatic riling up his base ProudLib72 Jun 2018 #35

What a great post. I don't like being threatened...and what kind of a person doesn't even Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #41

Extremely well expressed! But deep breath. :) Hortensis Jun 2018 #42

Yes it is. Yes we have. Yes we do. Yes it will. Yes they did. Yes they did. No it won't. NurseJackie Jun 2018 #56

It seems there are still a lot of diehard supporters even on DU ProudLib72 Jun 2018 #184

Jane, how progressive was your golden parachute? lunamagica Jun 2018 #49

I'm sorry to say this but their actions WhiteTara Jun 2018 #52

Doesn't really match with history zipplewrath Jun 2018 #57

I have said for a long time. Blue_true Jun 2018 #123

What the hell? Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2018 #64

Threats will not be effective Gothmog Jun 2018 #68

The Dem party is already becoming more progressive... Wounded Bear Jun 2018 #71

This is Jane on election day 2016. She's an asshole. seaglass Jun 2018 #74

That's Jane's code-talk for "Go ahead and vote for Jill Stein." NurseJackie Jun 2018 #77

That stupid...I can't even type what I'm thinking. That's what I call white privilege! lunamagica Jun 2018 #80

Clearly, she wasn't speaking ONLY for herself. That was not an "un-vetted" nor "unapproved" message. NurseJackie Jun 2018 #118

Hey Jane, how's that FBI investigation into your bank fraud coming along? Tarc Jun 2018 #75

A Third Party is the only way that the GOP can remain competitive as demographics change. PubliusEnigma Jun 2018 #79

Tired of the BS we can do it Jun 2018 #85

really jane??? tell me it ain't so heaven05 Jun 2018 #86

To Jane there is only one criteria for qualifying as a progressive GulfCoast66 Jun 2018 #93

I think the Party will move to the left. What's the arument against doing so? jalan48 Jun 2018 #94

We are all progressives but the left left Green slime can spoil close elections but can't win Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #99

It's our choice as a Party. Blaming the voters is NOT a solution. jalan48 Jun 2018 #103

California is undeniably progressive. California didn't vote for Bernie. R B Garr Jun 2018 #115

Then no worries. Why all the fuss? jalan48 Jun 2018 #119

Your post #94 was implying agreement with Jane Sanders where only her definition R B Garr Jun 2018 #122

Like I said, no worries. Much ado about nothing. jalan48 Jun 2018 #130

We don't need Jane Sanders dividing people and R B Garr Jun 2018 #149

The voters who call themselves wrongly in my opinion progressives who didn't vote for Hillary are Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #131

Sorry, it's an election. What about those 90+ million eligible voters who didn't vote? jalan48 Jun 2018 #133

Absolutely to blame.... Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #141

Good luck with the blame the voters strategy. jalan48 Jun 2018 #142

The timing is not good awesomerwb1 Jun 2018 #136

Well, over the last few years we have lost the Presidency, Congress, State legislatures and jalan48 Jun 2018 #137

And that can be pinned on the left left green slimes who abandoned Obama i 10 Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #143

Bad voters! Bad! jalan48 Jun 2018 #146

Meh. It's more like get back to basics and work on grassroots awesomerwb1 Jun 2018 #156

And by the way. Is your "strategy" (Sanders') to divide a party in two by creating another party? awesomerwb1 Jun 2018 #157

My strategy would be to stop attacking Sanders and the millions who voted for him. Let's figure jalan48 Jun 2018 #162

Then maybe Bernie and Jane should spend less time attacking Democrats. comradebillyboy Jun 2018 #163

Politics is about issues. Democrat's are not 100% lockstep on the issues. jalan48 Jun 2018 #166

It's what they do.. they're not going to change Cha Jun 2018 #172

Why would anyone who calls themselves liberal or progressive mcar Jun 2018 #186

Apparently millions don't think the Party is progressive enough. I hope we can come together jalan48 Jun 2018 #187

Why would anyone risk Rs keeping control of everything mcar Jun 2018 #189

I agree and that's why I don't think Bernie will run a la Nader. He will continue to push us jalan48 Jun 2018 #190

We should do it because it's the right thing to do Blue_Tires Jun 2018 #179

That's a great idea to dilute the left of center vote... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2018 #96

lol stonecutter357 Jun 2018 #101

Wish I could say I was surprised. ehrnst Jun 2018 #102

Translation: Nominate my husband in 2020 or else. RandySF Jun 2018 #108

I would say "Don't let the door hit you on the way out" but that implies we were in the same room". grantcart Jun 2018 #116

She's a mouthpiece for his 2020 campaign. This was planned and appproved. NurseJackie Jun 2018 #125

I think they may learn that electioneering by threat is a bad idea. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #144

The good news is that ballot access laws will apply to third party candidates Gothmog Jun 2018 #121

Jane needs to realize that we are no longer putting up with her stupid threats all american girl Jun 2018 #140

Starting a sucessful new political party is very difficult and comradebillyboy Jun 2018 #164

I assume she means a *viable* 3rd party, as there are already numerous parties. Garrett78 Jun 2018 #145

Shut your piehole, Jane samir.g Jun 2018 #152

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2018 #155

Geezus Chrrrist! Demanding & desperate sound to that warning statement Wwcd Jun 2018 #158

How big corporate money drives US elections soryang Jun 2018 #160

Well she lierally addresses Trump and what he's been doing in her talk, so your assessment seems JCanete Jun 2018 #167

Mahalo for posting this, Kit! First of all nobody the fuck Cha Jun 2018 #169

So... 200 days before the biggest midterms of our lives, and they pull this shit? Blue_Tires Jun 2018 #178

Of course. It's the only way they can stay relevant. MrsCoffee Jun 2018 #182

Exactly. Mrs Sanders is issuing threats.. Cha Jun 2018 #196

"Nice party ya got there. It'd be a shame if anything happened to it!" NurseJackie Jun 2018 #198

Is that a real Cha Jun 2018 #199

No... It's just a "classic" mob style threat. But... NurseJackie Jun 2018 #200

Right.. notice Cha Jun 2018 #201

... Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2018 #192

Bigger things to worry about than Jane Sanders predictions Freethinker65 Jun 2018 #202

This is my problem with BS and the BoBs. liberal N proud Jun 2018 #204

Hey Jane. The party's over here... LuvLoogie Jun 2018 #205

In California we have a third party tirebiter Jun 2018 #206

knr OldRed2450 Nov 2019 #208