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bucolic_frolic

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9. ah, yes, the usurping, installed stooge

Reply to duforsure (Reply #8)

Thu Jun 7, 2018, 12:32 PM

Jun 2018

If we ever obtain a majority, I hope Democrats will, according to judicious use of political power and law, within the bounds of reason, counter this GOP display of theft and larceny

Or will we be nice?

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"in Cases of Impeachment...the Party convicted shall nevertheless be ...subject to Indictment [View all] lagomorph777 Jun 2018 OP

It says the party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject NewJeffCT Jun 2018 #1

That's not what the clause means. Adrahil Jun 2018 #5

Exactly, thank you! lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #10

that's the weak argument they're making. it doesn't really imply that, it leaves it open. unblock Jun 2018 #7

It can be read differently, which is why it is a matter of such controversy. tritsofme Jun 2018 #2

I could read it in Klingon or Elvish; that doesn't change what it clearly says. lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #11

Well, all it clearly says is that the only restriction is that a pardon cannot apppy to impeachment tritsofme Jun 2018 #17

My OP is not about pardons at all. lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #18

Then I misunderstood. tritsofme Jun 2018 #19

Bizarrely, it is indeed a matter of controversy. lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #20

You and Stephen Colbert, saidsimplesimon Jun 2018 #26

Article II, Section 2 billh58 Jun 2018 #3

Another interpretation is that the president cannot pardon any party involved in an impeachment case FreepFryer Jun 2018 #4

People forget that many officials are subject to impeachment, not just the President. Adrahil Jun 2018 #6

He also can't pardon anybody else being impeached. lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #12

Including Gorsuch. duforsure Jun 2018 #8

ah, yes, the usurping, installed stooge bucolic_frolic Jun 2018 #9

We'll be nice. lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #13

Good luck proving that there was anything "illegal" about the confirmation of Gorsuch onenote Jun 2018 #14

You've hit the nail on the head bucolic_frolic Jun 2018 #15

I don't think you can impeach him legally. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #16

Right; impeachment is a political process, not a legal one. lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #22

I don't think it is possible. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #25

Mathematically, I agree, unfortunately. lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #27

not clear scipan Jun 2018 #21

I'm aware of the infamous DOJ memo, lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #24

please let him be gone bdamomma Jun 2018 #23