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It says the party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject NewJeffCT Jun 2018 #1
That's not what the clause means. Adrahil Jun 2018 #5
Exactly, thank you! lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #10
that's the weak argument they're making. it doesn't really imply that, it leaves it open. unblock Jun 2018 #7
It can be read differently, which is why it is a matter of such controversy. tritsofme Jun 2018 #2
I could read it in Klingon or Elvish; that doesn't change what it clearly says. lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #11
Well, all it clearly says is that the only restriction is that a pardon cannot apppy to impeachment tritsofme Jun 2018 #17
My OP is not about pardons at all. lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #18
Then I misunderstood. tritsofme Jun 2018 #19
Bizarrely, it is indeed a matter of controversy. lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #20
You and Stephen Colbert, saidsimplesimon Jun 2018 #26
Article II, Section 2 billh58 Jun 2018 #3
Another interpretation is that the president cannot pardon any party involved in an impeachment case FreepFryer Jun 2018 #4
People forget that many officials are subject to impeachment, not just the President. Adrahil Jun 2018 #6
He also can't pardon anybody else being impeached. lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #12
Including Gorsuch. duforsure Jun 2018 #8
ah, yes, the usurping, installed stooge bucolic_frolic Jun 2018 #9
We'll be nice. lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #13
Good luck proving that there was anything "illegal" about the confirmation of Gorsuch onenote Jun 2018 #14
You've hit the nail on the head bucolic_frolic Jun 2018 #15
I don't think you can impeach him legally. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #16
Right; impeachment is a political process, not a legal one. lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #22
I don't think it is possible. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #25
Mathematically, I agree, unfortunately. lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #27
not clear scipan Jun 2018 #21
I'm aware of the infamous DOJ memo, lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #24
please let him be gone bdamomma Jun 2018 #23
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