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Algernon Moncrieff

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18. Just wondering- did you read the article or just the excerpt?

Tue Jun 19, 2018, 12:03 AM

Jun 2018

The article tells a true story - we are in bad shape right now. We control none of the three branches of the Federal government, and we are not in great shape in a lot of state houses. It's not like this is from Newsmax - it's Politifact validating a statement from CNN.

We don't do ourselves any favors hiding from facts. We can't please everyone, but we can try to answer questions like how to get our message out to states Trump won where we should do better - like Iowa, Wisconsin, and Missouri. There's no excuse for a Republican to be Governor in Maryland - yet that's the case. There's no good reason why Rick Scott should be polling ahead of Bill Nelson - yet that's the case.

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Yes, the Democratic Party is at nearly its weakest point in a century [View all] Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2018 OP

Blue Wave is greater than False Concern PubliusEnigma Jun 2018 #1

Gee, I wonder why this was: Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2018 #2

Part of the "New Deal coalition" thucythucy Jun 2018 #5

Looking at that chart we still did fairly well up until the late 70s. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2018 #12

To me it looks like the most significant drops came in the early 1970s-- thucythucy Jun 2018 #17

We slaughtered the GOP in the '74 Midterms Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2018 #28

I feel like the idea that Democrats are making everything about Trump to be a myth Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2018 #68

Since the 70s Republicans politicized Evangelicals; have worked to build a network of grassroots betsuni Jun 2018 #25

+1000. This is what happened: weaponized wealth in politics sharedvalues Jun 2018 #55

+1000 brer cat Jun 2018 #69

+1 CrispyQ Jun 2018 #97

What about McGovern? Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #61

Gerrymandering and breaking the Unions by the GOP pretty much took our power. ehrnst Jun 2018 #63

Another way to look at that chart is to look at the trend on the "red" Republican side karynnj Jun 2018 #81

It seems the losses started becoming persistent/worsening starting with the '94 disaster. Midwestern Democrat Jun 2018 #117

The New Deal Created a middle class, some of whom's members no longer felt the need for an ... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2018 #76

Good times, back when being a democrat actually meant being on the left ansible Jun 2018 #6

Unless you were a Southern Democrat thucythucy Jun 2018 #9

It's unfortunate, but FDR needed their support to get as far as he did ansible Jun 2018 #10

Actually... Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2018 #15

It was pony's and unicorns I think kamalafan Jun 2018 #47

I would think the fact that the economy had cratered and millions had starved and were Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #62

Not true at all blake2012 Jun 2018 #3

Sad, but true. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #51

Why is Fareed Zakaria the go to guy? YOHABLO Jun 2018 #4

And yet Democrats have won the popular vote in six of the seven last thucythucy Jun 2018 #7

And emphasize the need to do away the Electoral College!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #52

Gerrymandering affects the House, not the Senate. CrispyQ Jun 2018 #95

Yeah, but the fact that each state gets two senators thucythucy Jun 2018 #98

The entire electoral process needs an overhaul with publicly funded elections at the top of the list CrispyQ Jun 2018 #100

Been that way forever. Voltaire2 Jun 2018 #110

Yes, but the Big State / Small State thing is way outta whack Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2018 #118

The Democrats are our last line at saving Democracy. NY_20th Jun 2018 #8

Democrats have been fighting a policy war, while Republicans have been fighting a procedural war. Garrett78 Jun 2018 #11

Very good article Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2018 #13

Interesting! leftstreet Jun 2018 #16

That's a great link! kamalafan Jun 2018 #48

+1 Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2018 #70

True. Republicans know they represent a small and shrinking demo. Caliman73 Jun 2018 #87

Yep, Republicans saw the writing on the wall long ago. Garrett78 Jun 2018 #93

While I'll work hard to get dems elected in November, CrispyQ Jun 2018 #96

It has been but it'd be worth posting again. Garrett78 Jun 2018 #101

I don't know why you're pushing this disingenuous, voter depressing, crap Cha Jun 2018 #14

Just wondering- did you read the article or just the excerpt? Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2018 #18

Right now, polling shows that the majority of Republicans are NY_20th Jun 2018 #21

Yes, it's rather obvious we don't control any of the 3 branches.. Cha Jun 2018 #22

If we don't clap loudly enough, Tinkerbell will die! n/t QC Jun 2018 #36

No, you must hang your heads, push disingenous Cha Jun 2018 #40

perfect. NY_20th Jun 2018 #43

That's a lot easier than working to GOTV NastyRiffraff Jun 2018 #92

Right.. easier to depress the vote than actually Cha Jun 2018 #106

No use arguin as some with "ostrich" mentality prefer keepin their heads buried & ignore the obvious InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #56

So tell us - what is "the obvious?" ehrnst Jun 2018 #64

Read. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #71

I did. I don't know what you are talking about. Please clarify. ehrnst Jun 2018 #83

Then I'm sorry ehrnst, I doubt I can help you. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #94

Not brave enough to say it, eh? ehrnst Jun 2018 #99

Yeah riiiight... you're very good with your insults ehrnst, I'll give you that. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #107

But I'm right. Yes? (nt) ehrnst Jun 2018 #108

Yes, you're SO right.. the BIG winner, if that makes you feel better...congrats!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #112

Well, somebody has some feels. ehrnst Jun 2018 #113

Thanks for again making my point.. you as well. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #114

I made some edits - go back and re-read. ehrnst Jun 2018 #115

Thanks erhnst, that's very kind of you. Just so you know, I read & take your posts quite seriously. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #116

It's very odd considering all that is at stake. NY_20th Jun 2018 #19

It's gratuitous doom and gloom when most of us Cha Jun 2018 #29

I think the status described is a snap shot of trends of the last two or three decades Tom Rinaldo Jun 2018 #72

I'd like to think that Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2018 #119

500,000 more people voted for Ted Cruz than Beto O'Rourke in the March primary LeftInTX Jun 2018 #38

I'm sorry about what's happening in Texas.. Cha Jun 2018 #39

The OP is validated by well-respected journalists Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2018 #120

"Nearly...almost..." lapucelle Jun 2018 #41

Mahalo for that "almost-nearly" from FZakaria, Cha Jun 2018 #42

Good post, Lapucelle. No one should ever claim Hortensis Jun 2018 #44

What the HELL are you two talking about re Sanders and King? Jim Lane Jun 2018 #46

Huh? Sanders and King? What? kamalafan Jun 2018 #49

And it takes more than a majority now to elect a Democrat, with Gerrymandering ehrnst Jun 2018 #65

Important DETAILS.. the article doesn't Cha Jun 2018 #103

Yes. We aren't the ones hiding our heads in the sand... ehrnst Jun 2018 #104

Golly. I guess we should all just give up then. blogslut Jun 2018 #20

Doom and gloomers trying to rain on the parade. NY_20th Jun 2018 #23

That's funny.. I wrote "doom and gloom" in Cha Jun 2018 #30

You rock Cha!! redstateblues Jun 2018 #33

Backatcha, redstateblues! Cha Jun 2018 #34

The data set that FZ relied upon only goes up to 2016. lapucelle Jun 2018 #79

Wow.. Thank you for that Correction, lapucelle! Cha Jun 2018 #105

Wrong. The Democratic Party is fighting back NY_20th Jun 2018 #24

Come see us on June 30 C_U_L8R Jun 2018 #26

Your concern is noted. 4now Jun 2018 #27

Fareed Zakaria TheRealNorth Jun 2018 #31

I believe we've flipped 42 seats JNelson6563 Jun 2018 #32

Mahalo for your eloquent reality check, Julie! Cha Jun 2018 #35

You bet Bunky! JNelson6563 Jun 2018 #45

Cool. shanny Jun 2018 #80

With the House up for re-election JNelson6563 Jun 2018 #102

in spite of people like me? shanny Jun 2018 #109

Ah yes, you "have a clue" JNelson6563 Jun 2018 #111

lol shanny Jun 2018 #121

lol? busted. R B Garr Jun 2018 #122

Bullshit. GoCubsGo Jun 2018 #37

The article fails to point out down ballot JustAnotherGen Jun 2018 #50

Fareed Zakaria? kcr Jun 2018 #53

We have had MFM008 Jun 2018 #54

The Hundred Years Thing Is A Canard ProfessorGAC Jun 2018 #57

Democrats in the South were truly a monopoly LeftInTX Jun 2018 #77

What you can't deny is the downward spiral since 1980 LeftInTX Jun 2018 #82

I Buy That ProfessorGAC Jun 2018 #88

democrats became lazy in voting, but that has changed and changed big...the numbers don't lie beachbum bob Jun 2018 #58

That is a very good point. We need to vote in all elections as if our lives depend on it because Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #60

Let me say that in 2008 we had it all...but by 10 those who should have had our backs were Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #59

+1000! mcar Jun 2018 #67

Exactly and this is why we are in this position where we sit helplessly by and watch Trump burn Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #73

Agree. Do something or get out of the way mcar Jun 2018 #74

We have have had much success in special elections and primaries...but these folks Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #78

That is only a fraction of the problem LeftInTX Jun 2018 #84

k&r.. disillusioned73 Jun 2018 #66

Yep, more concern trolling agitprop so it must be an even-numbered year... Blue_Tires Jun 2018 #75

Exactly. The concern and purity trolling is so transparent. nt R B Garr Jun 2018 #123

Fareed Zakaria the writer is full of shit. LiberalFighter Jun 2018 #85

If and when we get power back it's going to be interesting to see... vi5 Jun 2018 #86

This is why the shielding of criticism of Dem leadership in the long run hurts the Party DemocraticSocialist8 Jun 2018 #89

Politifact rated this TRUE andym Jun 2018 #90

Quit reading after "politics of identity" ismnotwasm Jun 2018 #91