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R B Garr

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40. +1, and LOL, they don't even know that she is for abolishing ICE and Bernie is against

Wed Jun 27, 2018, 11:05 AM

Jun 2018

that. Bernie's position is presumably because of his focus on white working class voters, mostly those Reagan Democrats who don't like identity politics and only want to talk about their jobs and their own immediate needs.

It would be interesting to see Ocasia Cortez debate Bernie on that issue. She goes on the Jimmy Dore show, so maybe they can debate on Thom Hartmann or Jimmy Dore's show...

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Over the moon with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Morning Joe this morning. She was superb. [View all] Exotica Jun 2018 OP

I was gleeful and grinning listening and watching her. She is the future and it's looking good. n/t monmouth4 Jun 2018 #1

She has 'it'. She dominated the entire panel discussion. You cannot learn that type of Exotica Jun 2018 #6

No question Alexandria has the "it" factor...why that is so hard for some to recognize is beyond me. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #17

The future is fuckin' right!! Hope Chuck and Nancy are paying attention and taking notes... InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #15

Spare me the drama leftynyc Jun 2018 #16

It's time to build over and around statis-quo, party dinosaurs. Paraphrasing Bucky... Magoo48 Jun 2018 #21

The ESTABLISHMENT leftynyc Jun 2018 #22

Have you ever considered what would have happened shanny Jun 2018 #27

Yes, I considered it leftynyc Jun 2018 #28

If it would never have passed it would have been because Democrats didn't vote for it, Gore1FL Jun 2018 #36

Just fucking stop it leftynyc Jun 2018 #38

What part of the democratic process is difficult for you to understand Gore1FL Jun 2018 #43

Changing demographics has been happening all over California so maybe you don't R B Garr Jun 2018 #46

Whose saying otherwise? leftynyc Jun 2018 #47

Exactly. This demographic shift has been happening for well over a decade at least. R B Garr Jun 2018 #50

You seem to be convinced that the Democrats can't win unless we are GOP-lite. Gore1FL Jun 2018 #69

Just stop this fucking nonsense leftynyc Jun 2018 #75

OK I guess you won't see this then. But I'll spell it out for anyone else still confused. Gore1FL Jun 2018 #76

I hope the party becomes that courageous... Magoo48 Jun 2018 #78

Bingo.. disillusioned73 Jun 2018 #60

So we lost the house and the senate and then the presidency but still no public option. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2018 #55

Sorry, but that's a ridiculous argument leftynyc Jun 2018 #62

Are you saying Pelosi would have been voted out if we passed a public option? Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2018 #63

I'm saying NOTHING WOULD HAVE PASSED leftynyc Jun 2018 #66

You are correct! NurseJackie Jun 2018 #67

It would have passed if every Democrat would have voted for it. Gore1FL Jun 2018 #77

No pretending we would have held office without a public option is moronic....and not the case Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2018 #84

What part of leftynyc Jun 2018 #86

We could have passed a public option. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2018 #88

No, we couldn't leftynyc Jun 2018 #89

What you mention isn't single payer. Your talking points change only to point fingers. R B Garr Jun 2018 #45

You do realize that Obama proposed a public option, don't you? StevieM Jun 2018 #49

It would never have passed mcar Jun 2018 #54

Bingo!!! The ACA was killed off when the Rethugs canned the insurance mandate. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #72

No ESTABLISHMENT DemocracyMouse Jun 2018 #29

What fucking madness leftynyc Jun 2018 #30

I like Cortez, but wasn't Crowely also a supporter of Medicare-for-all? (eom) StevieM Jun 2018 #51

yes Exotica Jun 2018 #65

Please stop pushing the MSM spin mcar Jun 2018 #56

I would argue that to have any big change, you NEED the passion of the activists AND the establishme karynnj Jun 2018 #39

Absolutely leftynyc Jun 2018 #42

I agree karynnj Jun 2018 #64

Speaking of party dinosaurs, she is for abolishing ICE and Bernie Sanders is against R B Garr Jun 2018 #37

LOL! NurseJackie Jun 2018 #24

+1, and LOL, they don't even know that she is for abolishing ICE and Bernie is against R B Garr Jun 2018 #40

No one is saying that a clone of her would win everywhere karynnj Jun 2018 #61

No one has been accused of saying those words... NurseJackie Jun 2018 #71

LOL, Alexandria would take down Joe Manchin in W. Va. too... InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #73

"this was a seismic political shift" HA! :-D ROFL! NurseJackie Jun 2018 #74

Instead of always placating, maybe its time to lead people to our side... InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #79

Oooo goody! Clap harder!! NurseJackie Jun 2018 #82

But Sanders is against abolishing ICE lunamagica Jun 2018 #104

i think what she was advocating is what ALL dems want..im not sure what she said was all that... samnsara Jun 2018 #48

Maybe one day... Bernie is still being lambasted by fellow Dems for advocating InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #80

Again the same stuff? awesomerwb1 Jun 2018 #52

Alexandria for President 2028!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #2

Now you are just mocking people. NCTraveler Jun 2018 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author Exotica Jun 2018 #8

Sorry, I thought you were referencing her as a Presidential contender. NCTraveler Jun 2018 #10

I am sorry for the argy bargy, I will remove my reply to you Exotica Jun 2018 #14

She is well over a decade away from being in the running for anything higher. I am a Exotica Jun 2018 #20

International progress, not just in the USA, is built on... DemocracyMouse Jun 2018 #32

I fully agree. We need young vibant people t0 lead the charge. I am old, old, and we need change. olegramps Jun 2018 #34

A decade should just about do it. 2028 like I said, tho I'll gladly accept 2032 if you wanna quibble InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #81

I was speaking about Senate. Give her a chance to settle into the House please. Exotica Jun 2018 #83

Yeah, like someone of Alexandria's enormous political talent needs a whole DECADE to settle into InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #90

Obama was in elected office, including the US Senate, for 12 years before he ran for President Exotica Jun 2018 #91

I respectfully disagree... guess we'll see in 10 years. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #92

Please go argue with a person who is not all all happy Exotica Jun 2018 #93

You're the one arguing... I'm just pointing out the reality of the situation. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #94

Reality? You are saying she should run for POTUS starting at 36 or 37. Exotica Jun 2018 #95

Alexandria IS the future... she has an EXTREMELY promising career in politics... InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #9

"absolutely WILL be President one day!! " NCTraveler Jun 2018 #11

Yup, predicting the future!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #13

" absolutely WILL be President one day!!" Aleksander Jun 2018 #96

I've noticed she likes to do that awesomerwb1 Jun 2018 #53

I know that part of New York...hubs was born there and we have friends who live there to Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #98

I respect your opinion on this... I do believe Alexandria WILL be unifying and do great things... InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #99

I do too. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #100

Of course Mika had to bash Hillary Clinton at the end of the interview oberliner Jun 2018 #3

That's how she assuages her guilt leftynyc Jun 2018 #18

She never fails to take a swipe. Tatiana Jun 2018 #70

She was awesome! MoonRiver Jun 2018 #5

I thought we were supposed to hate morning joe and lament that dems go on there? Blue_Adept Jun 2018 #7

Yeah, so confusing! All the 'Morning Joe' haters here. Shows like today is why I watch MJ. PearliePoo2 Jun 2018 #58

We are. I didn't watch it even knowing she was on there... vi5 Jun 2018 #102

This should be the future of the Democratic Party, young and progressive, with a lot of..... LongTomH Jun 2018 #12

Yes, and carrying on Hillary's platform certainly helped her. (nt) ehrnst Jun 2018 #19

Hillary campaigned on Medicare For All? Abolishing ICE? leftstreet Jun 2018 #26

You are correct - HRC campaigned on Universal Health Care ehrnst Jun 2018 #31

That's not Medicare For All leftstreet Jun 2018 #33

"Medicare for All" is one proposal for Universal Health Care. ehrnst Jun 2018 #35

Oh yeah. The one Clinton said would "never, ever" happen leftstreet Jun 2018 #41

Yes, she was very honest about that, and got hammered by many as a result. ehrnst Jun 2018 #44

it won't happen now...not with the courts waiting to strike it down...16 ended any chance of Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #97

Concerning "abolishing ICE" ehrnst Jun 2018 #68

+1000, yes, the flyer didn't explain all of this about ICE. Great post. nt R B Garr Jun 2018 #103

AS a man I am committing to voting safeinOhio Jun 2018 #23

K&R ck4829 Jun 2018 #25

All politics is local Politicub Jun 2018 #57

You know what's funny? tulipsandroses Jun 2018 #59

She is the face H2O Man Jun 2018 #85

She fits the electoral base specific to her district well. LanternWaste Jun 2018 #87

The handwringing on our side about her is pathetic... vi5 Jun 2018 #101