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haele

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23. We have this issue in San Diego. Apartments in high rises sit empty.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 12:39 PM
Jun 2018

Reasonably affordable family single resident houses bought with foreign (primarily Chinese and UAE) cash sit empty - or get converted to Air BNBs/vacation rentals under travel property management if they're in desirable "touristy" areas of town. Oh, the properties are maintained and sometimes renovated, but for the most part, no one is living permanently in them. Or if they are being rented out, the rents are for high end timeshares or vacation rentals, not for permanent local residents with jobs and families that might cause damage.

A local growing concern is that there have been a few houses in historic areas (tax exclusionary areas with low tax zoning for maintenance of historic neighborhoods) or older single family properties in good condition that were purchased by foreign holding companies and attempts made to demolish historic buildings to put up cheap modular mini-complexes - without consideration of the neighborhood infrastructure or ambiance - but with a keen eye on the low property taxes in those areas, despite the fact that by demolishing a historic property, they lose that tax exemption.

China is doing the same thing as Japan back in the 1980's to boost their internal economy - property is being flipped in those countries between holding companies and various investors like collectable cards so long as their markets can manage it. Which means few or no renters in the U.S. that might damage the property they're flipping between each other.

Chinese - and UAE property investors have no problems leaving large developments standing empty for a long time after being built. They didn't buy them to live in or for anyone else to live in, they bought them for "investment".

Haele

This is called "nativism". marybourg Jun 2018 #1
The issue isn't with immigrants. It's with absentee landlords in China, Russia, and other places pnwmom Jun 2018 #3
Are they "landlords"? marybourg Jun 2018 #9
Could be both -- some houses being one, some another. And Seattle doesn't have pnwmom Jun 2018 #10
In BC it's mostly homes sitting empty. EllieBC Jun 2018 #21
You are assuming that those buying are "immigrants." Sophia4 Jun 2018 #11
So? marybourg Jun 2018 #22
Homes are places where people live. Sophia4 Jun 2018 #24
If it's an investment, the investor will at some point marybourg Jun 2018 #26
That is why I am asking the question. Sophia4 Jun 2018 #27
fuck no, it would be targeted towards minorities . already black people and other long time JI7 Jun 2018 #2
It would be targeted at wealthy non-residents who are investing in property, pnwmom Jun 2018 #5
that's canada. the US has a history of discrimination when it comes to buying property and it will JI7 Jun 2018 #6
I haven't looked at it carefully, but if they have a good model, that is targeted at non-residents pnwmom Jun 2018 #7
i'm sure there are ways to deal with it but not by things like country JI7 Jun 2018 #8
Using the revenue to help the homeless sounds like a good idea. Sophia4 Jun 2018 #14
But if they are American citizens, they would be allowed to buy land. Sophia4 Jun 2018 #12
Black people are discriminated against. Those who can afford it still have harder JI7 Jun 2018 #13
In California? Sophia4 Jun 2018 #17
Here's an article about what's happened in British Columbia. Now that they have the tax, pnwmom Jun 2018 #4
I would be willing to bet most of these homes are not sitting empty. NCTraveler Jun 2018 #15
It's a thing in London, and elsewhere BannonsLiver Jun 2018 #18
They should regulate accordingly. nt NCTraveler Jun 2018 #19
Agreed. It sounds like Khan is moving in that direction. It's a no brainer, tbh. BannonsLiver Jun 2018 #20
We have this issue in San Diego. Apartments in high rises sit empty. haele Jun 2018 #23
There is a huge difference in "no one is living permanently in them" NCTraveler Jun 2018 #25
Kinda, make it non-residents and residential property only Amishman Jun 2018 #16
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