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In reply to the discussion: In case you were wondering, Cenk is still trash [View all]zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)It's sorta like the "just because your paranoid, doesn't mean they're not out to get you" situation. He can be trash, but right. Had a boss one time that said, "the only worse than an asshole, is an asshole that's right". She lost. She even admits to mistakes. We (the democratic party) didn't take seriously enough the risk of nominating someone who was under and FBI investigation. That didn't mean much to us, because of course we all knew it was bogus. But to the 3 - 5 % (in about 4 states) of voters that decided this election, that meant enough. I'm not really willing to say Bernie would have won, he had problems of his own. Hillary didn't get enough of the AA vote out, he'd a done way worse. But it isn't clear that his problems would have been less than HRC's.
We'll never know and really all of this "you should apologize, no YOU should apologize" really isn't getting anyone anywhere. If we want to have a post mortem, fine, but it isn't about apologies. It is about what was "knowable" as a guide for the future. I don't think anyone knows what's gonna happen in 2020. I'd probably make a small bet the eventual nominee isn't all that well known to most of us right now. Nothing wrong with assessing what not to do next time around. But I'm actually paying much more attention right now to November 2018.