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Blaming the voters is a losing proposition Kentonio Jul 2018 #1
+1 leftstreet Jul 2018 #3
Democrats did get more votes JI7 Jul 2018 #4
No, we got more votes for the presidency Kentonio Jul 2018 #8
Actually got more voters for Senate too Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #175
When voters don't turn out it is the fault of the voter. Wwcd Jul 2018 #12
Yup. On this site someone bragged about mary landrieu losing JI7 Jul 2018 #14
If you want to sit and blame voters, then feel free Kentonio Jul 2018 #22
Who casts the votes kentonio? Wwcd Jul 2018 #28
If it's a child's excuse then we shouldn't use it ourselves Kentonio Jul 2018 #43
I think it is childish and foolish to message vote with so much at stake. (not talking about you). Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #97
In my family, the vote isn't a privilege, it's a duty. KitSileya Jul 2018 #85
And if everyone thought that was, the country would be a much better place Kentonio Jul 2018 #87
How about not simply caving in to that? treestar Jul 2018 #126
It doesn't work. Kentonio Jul 2018 #143
Ive seen it work on many people, and more since Trump came in. They're not likely to talk about bettyellen Jul 2018 #151
That is what I told my kids. My son was a Sanders supporter and reluctant to vote for Hillary, Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #98
So how does this get fixed? whopis01 Jul 2018 #138
+10,000, Wwcd. Voting and voting well is a citizen's duty. Hortensis Jul 2018 #184
Speaking of advertising, Americans have been receiving the message for decades that betsuni Jul 2018 #83
It is not sales treestar Jul 2018 #123
It is absolutely sales Kentonio Jul 2018 #125
How is not voting going to affect the future? treestar Jul 2018 #130
A genuinely scary number of people just don't think politics effects them Kentonio Jul 2018 #142
For a great many people it is whopis01 Jul 2018 #139
Damn Straight it's on the lazy ass person who can't Cha Jul 2018 #62
I'm fed up with that silly game too, Cha 🍃⚘ Wwcd Jul 2018 #65
The only way to reverse the insidious fascism that's happening bit by bit is by VOTING this November Cha Jul 2018 #67
This should be a great big massive Campaign Ad Wwcd Jul 2018 #71
And, this.. Cha Jul 2018 #72
Exactly. treestar Jul 2018 #121
If those voters are so stupid and misinformed it is on them. sheshe2 Jul 2018 #19
There's always someone trying to protect lazy ass Cha Jul 2018 #64
I'm sorry qazplm135 Jul 2018 #27
Blame them all you like, but it doesn't achieve anything. Kentonio Jul 2018 #44
What can we achieve with voters who still threaten not to vote? We used to ask what is the matter Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #99
nope it doesn't qazplm135 Jul 2018 #206
It's exactly an inspiring candidate and message that will get them out Kentonio Jul 2018 #207
and it's literally why we lost nearly every election qazplm135 Jul 2018 #208
Us losing those elections wasn't because we had an inspirational and charismatic leader Kentonio Jul 2018 #209
Guest on Meet the Press yesterday (didn't get his name) was asked where the Dems went wrong EffieBlack Jul 2018 #212
Exactly, qazplm.. it Means they don't Cha Jul 2018 #60
NO, you're Wrong.. Cha Jul 2018 #58
Not enough people chose Clinton over Trump. Eko Jul 2018 #61
Cool. Throw your hands up in the airs and call them all fucking losers. Kentonio Jul 2018 #63
when someone makes a mistake, Eko Jul 2018 #66
The last thing the electorate will accept is being lectured by a political party Kentonio Jul 2018 #74
I didnt know I was a political party! Eko Jul 2018 #81
Kids are being torn away from parents and hidden . Voters SHOULD be blamed if they don't think JI7 Jul 2018 #84
So, since you are the arbiter of what we can say to voters, Eko Jul 2018 #173
I manage a large store. Eko Jul 2018 #69
Voters are not your employees Kentonio Jul 2018 #73
Wow. Can't believe that needed to be said. But there it is. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2018 #109
Trump voters love to be insulted, yes they will buy next time. betsuni Jul 2018 #113
Dont see where I said we should insult them at all. Eko Jul 2018 #167
Voters aren't "customers." EffieBlack Jul 2018 #168
If they don't vote in the midterm with baby jails and all the other shit Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #101
dems can't sell shit if they keep ignoring 1500 radio stations - that can now be negated certainot Jul 2018 #76
Completely agree Kentonio Jul 2018 #80
I agree with you, but the big money who used to donate have been chased out by the pure people...who Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #102
30 yrs ago RW put racist assholes on every corner and stump in the country yelling certainot Jul 2018 #116
The wealthy conservatives did this...and it takes money...what is your suggestion? Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #137
those stations need money from advertisers, and support from uni and pro sports certainot Jul 2018 #145
Advertisers have not been paying for Limbaugh for years now. Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #146
Then why does it make sense to blame Dems in the face of simple math? kcr Jul 2018 #89
You are making absolutely no sense Kentonio Jul 2018 #94
I'm making no sense? kcr Jul 2018 #100
What are you even talking about?! Kentonio Jul 2018 #119
They should be called out because saying oh...it is not your fault can only reinforce what they did Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #105
You are spot on. Don't doubt it. BlueWI Jul 2018 #181
+1000 It makes perfect sense. Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #103
+1 betsuni Jul 2018 #104
Facts are facts...the voters are to blame. Some used their Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #95
Voters who don't vote treestar Jul 2018 #120
This is true Kentonio Jul 2018 #122
It's amazing we're still having these discussions. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2018 #129
Indeed. Kentonio Jul 2018 #141
Failed use of responsibility deserves blame. Voting is a responsibility. nt stevenleser Jul 2018 #144
To what end? Act_of_Reparation Jul 2018 #164
+1 this is a fundamental fact that is being distorted and ignored by many - n/t Locrian Jul 2018 #154
yep. It would help if Democrats were willing to lose some big donors to serve their actual voters yurbud Jul 2018 #166
It is every citizen's responsibility to vote Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #172
I applaud your efforts Lordquinton Jul 2018 #201
You sound like you think that voting is doing a favor for the candidates are EffieBlack Jul 2018 #211
We could stop 10 judges RandySF Jul 2018 #2
Oh give it a fucking rest Kentonio Jul 2018 #10
The ones attacking Democrats usually want republicans to win JI7 Jul 2018 #11
Bernie supporters ARE democrats Kentonio Jul 2018 #25
Who brought bernie's name into this? We're discussing VOTERS. Wwcd Jul 2018 #35
Did you actually bother reading the posts you replied to? Kentonio Jul 2018 #45
Your response is confirmation that attacks are damaging, R B Garr Jul 2018 #47
Not that much difference between saying someone accomplished nothing betsuni Jul 2018 #78
I don't get that...unless you live in Vermont...why are there still Bernie supporters...I tell you, Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #106
Democrats need to know where they stand, if they stand firm as Democrats, then... Civic Justice Jul 2018 #152
"Oh give it a fucking rest" Cha Jul 2018 #68
You start it by saying our leaders are not good enough treestar Jul 2018 #127
Our leaders are not delicate little flowers Kentonio Jul 2018 #140
They need to be supported treestar Jul 2018 #153
So, is Bernie a "delicate little flower"? Tarheel_Dem Jul 2018 #174
Ya beat me to it. sheshe2 Jul 2018 #176
Some just beat that 'Dems are week! Dems in Dissaray!' old drum to anything they can find to Wwcd Jul 2018 #5
+1 TheRealNorth Jul 2018 #33
I find the ones whose conscience troubles them to vote for democrats JI7 Jul 2018 #6
And then whine like babies about "divisiveness" whenever they're called on it. EffieBlack Jul 2018 #16
I don't think anyone was trying to 'teach Obama a lesson' leftstreet Jul 2018 #7
Then you weren't paying attention EffieBlack Jul 2018 #17
I do. sheshe2 Jul 2018 #18
Remember the "he should have held out for universal Healthcare" complaints EffieBlack Jul 2018 #42
Yes they were...tons of post whining about the failure to get single payer....they taught him Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #107
Yes they were - the ACA was not good enough treestar Jul 2018 #128
Hold up. I was angry about the homophobic preacher at the inauguration, but I never stopped voting D yardwork Jul 2018 #189
I don't blame them but the purists treestar Jul 2018 #197
Those posters had agendas other than achieving equal rights, IMO. yardwork Jul 2018 #198
I remember there was someone that bragged about not voting for mary landrieu JI7 Jul 2018 #9
I was a lurker than...and saw the same thing...and we have never had a working majority since those Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #108
Just yesterday i said voting is the most important thing JI7 Jul 2018 #13
Please stop calling Dems "weak" ! stonecutter357 Jul 2018 #15
That's not why they're weak. BlueTsunami2018 Jul 2018 #20
You want to rig elections and shiv old ladies? Orangepeel Jul 2018 #21
Want to? No. But if that's what it takes, that's what it takes. BlueTsunami2018 Jul 2018 #23
That's the excuse Republicans give EffieBlack Jul 2018 #26
+100. n/t pnwmom Jul 2018 #32
Sometimes, power is the only antidote to power. ArchTeryx Jul 2018 #40
the Republicans appeal to Bigotry . it's a Bigoted Straight White Xtian Party that hates everyone JI7 Jul 2018 #51
BlueTsunami2018 and ArchTeryx--THANK YOU! pelerin Jul 2018 #55
By having better policies. BlueTsunami2018 Jul 2018 #75
These Members and Senators answer to their constituents EffieBlack Jul 2018 #24
It's not that they don't want it as badly. It's that they ALSO value the democratic process pnwmom Jul 2018 #31
Exactly! EffieBlack Jul 2018 #34
Yes! If Dems got anywhere near bending, let alone breaking a law ... betsuni Jul 2018 #52
Well then prepare for right wing, iron fisted rule for the rest of your life. BlueTsunami2018 Jul 2018 #77
I don't want left or right iron-fisted rule for the rest of my life. pnwmom Jul 2018 #86
I don't want left wing iron fisted rule either. BlueTsunami2018 Jul 2018 #88
Excellent Post. LenaBaby61 Jul 2018 #132
Yes! And THAT'S why they get called weak kcr Jul 2018 #96
Welcome to DU leftstreet Jul 2018 #57
I know it's not a popular sentiment here, but... Crunchy Frog Jul 2018 #82
They are not weak. It is simply math...nothing they do can stop the SCOTUS pick...and it Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #110
Really? When did they ever "pay them back"? BlueTsunami2018 Jul 2018 #124
you are incorrect and this looks like an attempt to discourage Democratic voters. Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #135
Typical. BlueTsunami2018 Jul 2018 #165
I don't get that from your post... and I never pretend... Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #171
And the meme that Dems are "weak" encourages anti-Trump people not to bother voting at all. pnwmom Jul 2018 #29
Yes it does. I know some who whined about holding their nose and voting for Hillary...and they Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #111
Thank you. greatauntoftriplets Jul 2018 #30
We should look forward and not backward. secondwind Jul 2018 #36
Dem leaders just threw Maxine under the bus. radius777 Jul 2018 #37
You're expecting Dem leadership to govern like Trump EffieBlack Jul 2018 #38
Not like Trump - more like Maxine Waters, radius777 Jul 2018 #48
Maybe you didn't mean it like this, but... pelerin Jul 2018 #56
Hell YES! Raster Jul 2018 #117
I wasn't referring to Maxine. EffieBlack Jul 2018 #147
And that, Effie, is the problem... Raster Jul 2018 #90
amen! BlueWI Jul 2018 #182
No they didn't. And the Dem leaders are in charge and working to try to win the mid term...they Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #112
The same people who insist that Pelosi needs to go because she antagonizes Republicans EffieBlack Jul 2018 #148
Yep...I don't think that some understand the reality of politics. Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #149
'the same people who insist that Pelosi needs to go because she antagonizes Republicans' melman Jul 2018 #150
You must not have been paying attention EffieBlack Jul 2018 #156
We didn't do anything to the Republicans for not letting us name a SCJ. amywalk Jul 2018 #39
What did YOU do to fight for Garland in 2016? EffieBlack Jul 2018 #41
What did our President do? BeyondGeography Jul 2018 #46
What did YOU do? EffieBlack Jul 2018 #157
What did you want Democratic politicians to do? Tweak Mitch McConnell's nose? Recursion Jul 2018 #115
+1 betsuni Jul 2018 #118
Dispatch every rep to every news outlet. BlueWI Jul 2018 #183
Ah, the "strongest possible language" Recursion Jul 2018 #193
It's part of a suite of actions. BlueWI Jul 2018 #214
And maybe most importantly BlueWI Jul 2018 #185
Prepare for a very bad year at school. This is what we were warning you about in 2010 and 2014 Recursion Jul 2018 #194
So what's your suggestion? BlueWI Jul 2018 #215
Together, United, We'll Never Be Divided! BigmanPigman Jul 2018 #49
Just because word "weak" has some stigma and baggage doesn't mean its wrong. fescuerescue Jul 2018 #50
Amen to that!! Thekaspervote Jul 2018 #53
What is with the "democrats" and "weak" threads? applegrove Jul 2018 #54
I know! Not enough votes means not enough votes. betsuni Jul 2018 #59
We ARE weak if we give up before anyone's even been nominated. But we're better than that!. pelerin Jul 2018 #70
People need to complain RandySF Jul 2018 #79
"Voting is useless! Your vote doesn't matter! It's all rigged!" etc. etc. Oneironaut Jul 2018 #136
It's just another way to smear and attack Democrats and the Democratic party... NurseJackie Jul 2018 #91
Sadly, this is our lesson in why everyone needs to vote. Vinca Jul 2018 #92
+1000 Effie! This is the same sort of thing that happened in 2000 where we got two wars, two Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #93
Yep. Blame the weak-ass Republicans... Orsino Jul 2018 #114
If the Dems are "weak" it is not having numbers and it is treestar Jul 2018 #131
K&R mcar Jul 2018 #133
There is very little can be done Gothmog Jul 2018 #134
DEM LEADERSHIP (& MSM) ARE to blame for their silence about Greg Palast reports on '16 elections! cloudythescribbler Jul 2018 #155
Are you serious? Gothmog Jul 2018 #162
Thank you for the well-explained and supported reality check EffieBlack Jul 2018 #170
Election law is my hobby and I spend a great deal of time volunteering in this area Gothmog Jul 2018 #180
I also worked on election protection, so I totally get what you're saying EffieBlack Jul 2018 #187
Once a cycle, I serve as an election judge Gothmog Jul 2018 #190
What "silence"? They talk about it all the time. Eric Holder formed a damn NGO Recursion Jul 2018 #195
You are wrong and ill-informed -- and Gothmog is right. I remember Dem preparation & efforts. Hekate Jul 2018 #204
Of course, we shouldn't have to be stopping an SC nominee. Jakes Progress Jul 2018 #158
A recess appointment would have lapsed in January 2017 EffieBlack Jul 2018 #160
Congress was kept in technical session after Scalia died Gothmog Jul 2018 #163
I forgot about that EffieBlack Jul 2018 #169
This Jakes Progress Jul 2018 #191
This would have made no difference whatsoever. EffieBlack Jul 2018 #196
Why are you so vested in twisting stuff. Jakes Progress Jul 2018 #199
What you call "twisting" is simply pointing out reality EffieBlack Jul 2018 #200
Duck how you will Jakes Progress Jul 2018 #205
I agree that this is a major issue eleny Jul 2018 #159
From the Last Word-there is no magic way to block a vote Gothmog Jul 2018 #161
There is no way to block a vote... probably... Raster Jul 2018 #192
How is it Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #177
The GOP isn't resurrecting any esoteric rules. They're BREAKING the rules. EffieBlack Jul 2018 #178
Replace Manchin w another Dem. He doesn't vote w us anyway Effie. Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #179
Exactly how do you propose "replacing him with another Dem" in the next four months? EffieBlack Jul 2018 #186
By wishful thinking...how else? Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #188
I agree with your point. But stop calling democrats... GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #202
Hunh? "Dems" is a smear? That's news to me EffieBlack Jul 2018 #203
From Betty Bowers Gothmog Jul 2018 #210
I wonder what you think about this law professor's article. pnwmom Jul 2018 #213
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