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Have you asked a Democratic Socialist what it means? n/t leftstreet Jul 2018 #1
I don't know any. n/t MichMary Jul 2018 #8
If you have Google, you can look up their platform leftstreet Jul 2018 #11
So how does a business make money if there is not profit? Adrahil Jul 2018 #29
"Mom and Pop" vs Pharmaceutical Corporation leftstreet Jul 2018 #71
Well, we need pharmaceutical companies. We can't get drugs from Mom and Pop operations. pnwmom Jul 2018 #117
They don't have to be privately owned leftstreet Jul 2018 #119
OR we could have government researchers ALSO developing drugs. pnwmom Jul 2018 #120
THAT would be a huge step forward leftstreet Jul 2018 #121
I'm so sick of this socialism vs capitalism debate. Only a healthy, dynamic blend works. DemocracyMouse Jul 2018 #129
Volume. NT mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2018 #108
0% on 100 items 0% on 10,000 items. Adrahil Jul 2018 #112
They conflate the roles of government and private business. Blue_true Jul 2018 #31
Their position is no business owners or profit Lee-Lee Jul 2018 #110
That is a ridiculous viewpoint. Blue_true Jul 2018 #115
DAMN!! lark Jul 2018 #2
I checked their Twitter feed MichMary Jul 2018 #5
Looks like a winning platform...../s comradebillyboy Jul 2018 #9
Really, are you making joke? lark Jul 2018 #12
note the /s comradebillyboy Jul 2018 #18
Sounds reasonable! Oneironaut Jul 2018 #57
I've been thinking this as well fallout87 Jul 2018 #131
This message was self-deleted by its author sfwriter Jul 2018 #80
I don't think it means that MichMary Jul 2018 #81
I wonder why they pick up on the republican accusation that Democrats want "open borders"? George II Jul 2018 #96
It's not quite this simple JackintheGreen Jul 2018 #36
I get your point, but still think attacking it from the profit end is not productive in an election. lark Jul 2018 #142
I actually agree JackintheGreen Jul 2018 #143
well, no profit doesn't seem like a working system, or rather, it comes with all kinds of JCanete Jul 2018 #130
To be their own boss, to bring a product or service to a wider market, to fill an otherwise unfilled WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2018 #3
Does that mean no more stock market? n/t MichMary Jul 2018 #7
Really bad slogan lamsmy Jul 2018 #88
But Northern European nations are not socialist. GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #99
????? lark Jul 2018 #15
I really don't understand this MichMary Jul 2018 #19
Depends on whether they mean 'gross profit' or 'net profit' ... (nt) mr_lebowski Jul 2018 #20
Partially, I agree. lark Jul 2018 #22
Adequate gross profit can look obscene, whe in fact it is not. Blue_true Jul 2018 #47
we have lots of non-profits doing really great things scarytomcat Jul 2018 #33
I have worked for non-profits MichMary Jul 2018 #41
OMG. What, did you have to sell candy bars door to door or something like that? kcr Jul 2018 #91
My employment experience MichMary Jul 2018 #92
Yeah. Relying solely on donations to provide services is a pretty sucky way to do things. kcr Jul 2018 #95
I can't imagine MichMary Jul 2018 #105
Local and state governments do so all the time. kcr Jul 2018 #118
No problem with real non-profits. lark Jul 2018 #42
I think the question becomes how much profit is right scarytomcat Jul 2018 #86
This isn't about salaries, it's about profit. lark Jul 2018 #94
Sane businesses shoot for a gross margin in the 65% range. Blue_true Jul 2018 #40
pay, salary, wages, etc... handmade34 Jul 2018 #114
You aren't thinking broadly enough. lark Jul 2018 #125
You're missing a ton of stuff, though.... Adrahil Jul 2018 #32
Bizam, Bingo. Some simply can't grasp that. I think that EVERYONE that hate the concept of profit, Blue_true Jul 2018 #49
you sure it wasn't edhopper Jul 2018 #4
See the Tweet linked above MichMary Jul 2018 #6
That sign and text looks like "abolish profit from prisons" muriel_volestrangler Jul 2018 #51
Exactly how does that work? Blue_true Jul 2018 #52
i don't know, edhopper Jul 2018 #97
I was curious, so I looked at it. Yonnie3 Jul 2018 #10
But, MichMary Jul 2018 #13
Including you, obviously. ret5hd Jul 2018 #14
Well, MichMary Jul 2018 #17
You wrote that you read the platform said abolish profits. Yonnie3 Jul 2018 #21
The platform didn't say the words in the OP? american_ideals Jul 2018 #30
I made a stupid assumption MichMary Jul 2018 #37
It is difficult. Yonnie3 Jul 2018 #46
So your OP is fake news it seems. Kingofalldems Jul 2018 #70
Feel free to do so. nt Yonnie3 Jul 2018 #38
Just noting that this is the day Skidmore Jul 2018 #89
I couldn't agree more. Yonnie3 Jul 2018 #90
The selection of phrases is important. Blue_true Jul 2018 #53
What does this mean? MichMary Jul 2018 #50
Or to put it another way wellst0nev0ter Jul 2018 #100
They are socialist? GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #102
Boom! Thanks, OP is made up. Kingofalldems Jul 2018 #74
It's a stupid unsellable slogan Loki Liesmith Jul 2018 #16
What if it's targeting for-profit prisons and the like? wellst0nev0ter Jul 2018 #101
Sure Loki Liesmith Jul 2018 #106
I'm a firm believer in source documents. Igel Jul 2018 #23
Maybe no one will be in business Yupster Jul 2018 #24
Come on. DSA is center-left on a world scale american_ideals Jul 2018 #28
I taught history in high school and college Yupster Jul 2018 #43
You almost have it right- the DSA holds one difference Lee-Lee Jul 2018 #72
Can't think of anything Yupster Jul 2018 #98
Profit is "surplus value appropriated from labor." yallerdawg Jul 2018 #104
You gotta be kidding..... Adrahil Jul 2018 #34
they might run a business to earn a living (a pay check) scarytomcat Jul 2018 #25
What about funding future inventory, unexpected expenses? nt Blue_true Jul 2018 #55
bank loans personal capital scarytomcat Jul 2018 #87
Are you a business person? Blue_true Jul 2018 #93
Post a link to their platform if you think it's important? american_ideals Jul 2018 #26
Again, sloppy phrasing. Blue_true Jul 2018 #27
It's a simplistic slogan. MineralMan Jul 2018 #35
As I posted above, MichMary Jul 2018 #39
W-2 Workers Often Don't Think about Profits MineralMan Jul 2018 #44
When I worked W2, I cared a great deal about profits fescuerescue Jul 2018 #116
To continue - Most of my work is for clients who own and operate MineralMan Jul 2018 #48
Most W2 employees only think about their pay checks. Blue_true Jul 2018 #58
No, they mean all profit. See my explanation below. Lee-Lee Jul 2018 #56
You have to understand Marx to understand the DSA and what they want Lee-Lee Jul 2018 #59
Then they're ignoring American entrepreneurship altogether. MineralMan Jul 2018 #60
Agreed. But that's their vision Lee-Lee Jul 2018 #63
Uff da! In that case, they're more irrelevant than I thought. MineralMan Jul 2018 #66
I can understand the reasoning behind it. Though the specifics of implementation Lint Head Jul 2018 #45
Any business person that is making a $10 billion profit, or even a $100 million profit, Blue_true Jul 2018 #61
"rich people being more vocal and politically active than poorer people". Exactly. Most of the poor Lint Head Jul 2018 #84
Here is how a very active DSA type explained it to me. Basically abolishing private business owners Lee-Lee Jul 2018 #54
Silly concept. In worker owned businesses, why should an owner even bother? Blue_true Jul 2018 #64
In thier vision that's all done collectively Lee-Lee Jul 2018 #65
Not workable. Where has true Marxism ever worked? Blue_true Jul 2018 #67
You have to understand Marx to understand what they want and mean Lee-Lee Jul 2018 #62
So why did Marx write the manifesto? n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2018 #68
Why? Lee-Lee Jul 2018 #69
So, he was paid to? discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2018 #77
My guess is that it is supposed to be "abolish for profit prisons" and the last word got dropped grantcart Jul 2018 #73
No, they mean profit Lee-Lee Jul 2018 #76
I didn't read your comments because they assert a definitive grantcart Jul 2018 #78
Here is one link for you: Lee-Lee Jul 2018 #82
Your patronizing "spoon fed to them" is noted. grantcart Jul 2018 #113
That disproves your point muriel_volestrangler Jul 2018 #123
It is in how they define profits Lee-Lee Jul 2018 #132
Is there anything to indicate the DSA define "profit" like that? (nt) muriel_volestrangler Jul 2018 #135
Read Marx, it's where all their base economic beliefs originate Lee-Lee Jul 2018 #136
No, I think you are mistaken in thinking they all stopped thinking 150 years ago muriel_volestrangler Jul 2018 #137
Of course they don't put the hard line stuff out there Lee-Lee Jul 2018 #139
Interesting thread eh? Kingofalldems Jul 2018 #83
Profit vs. Prosperity northremembers Jul 2018 #109
Not to be argumentative but I find these groups tedious and boring grantcart Jul 2018 #111
Here's what it means for elections... GaYellowDawg Jul 2018 #75
They also want to "abolish prisons" grantcart Jul 2018 #79
Abolish profit means "We don't ever want to win an election, ever" comradebillyboy Jul 2018 #85
that means you have a business in Arkansas WhiteTara Jul 2018 #103
the most antiamerican slogan I've heard yet AlexSFCA Jul 2018 #107
People drive innovation and the economy ck4829 Jul 2018 #124
Serious question of my own. Is this actually a concern? JHB Jul 2018 #122
It is not anywhere in the Democratic Platform Wwcd Jul 2018 #127
I know that it's not part of the Democratic party platform... JHB Jul 2018 #128
Here is my concern- when DSA members and endorsed people run on our ticket it becomes our problem Lee-Lee Jul 2018 #133
Well, what do you propose? Shut down every fringe party... JHB Jul 2018 #134
There is no good answer Lee-Lee Jul 2018 #138
I thought it was more... Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #126
On DU, it often means avoidance of relevant research in order to pretend sincerity. LanternWaste Jul 2018 #140
Can you show me where that is part of the overall platform of Democratic Socialists? NCTraveler Jul 2018 #141
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