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In reply to the discussion: Please stop calling Dems "weak" because we don't have many options for stopping Supreme Court nomine [View all]EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)211. You sound like you think that voting is doing a favor for the candidates are
And if they don't "earn" it, we're not going to bestow our "gift" on them, as if we have nothing to gain or lose
Voting isn't a gift or a favor. It produces outcomes that can benefit or damage us, regardless whether we think a particular candidate has proven themselves worthy of our largesse.
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EffieBlack
Jul 2018
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I think it is childish and foolish to message vote with so much at stake. (not talking about you).
Demsrule86
Jul 2018
#97
Ive seen it work on many people, and more since Trump came in. They're not likely to talk about
bettyellen
Jul 2018
#151
That is what I told my kids. My son was a Sanders supporter and reluctant to vote for Hillary,
Demsrule86
Jul 2018
#98
Speaking of advertising, Americans have been receiving the message for decades that
betsuni
Jul 2018
#83
The only way to reverse the insidious fascism that's happening bit by bit is by VOTING this November
Cha
Jul 2018
#67
What can we achieve with voters who still threaten not to vote? We used to ask what is the matter
Demsrule86
Jul 2018
#99
Us losing those elections wasn't because we had an inspirational and charismatic leader
Kentonio
Jul 2018
#209
Guest on Meet the Press yesterday (didn't get his name) was asked where the Dems went wrong
EffieBlack
Jul 2018
#212
The last thing the electorate will accept is being lectured by a political party
Kentonio
Jul 2018
#74
Kids are being torn away from parents and hidden . Voters SHOULD be blamed if they don't think
JI7
Jul 2018
#84
dems can't sell shit if they keep ignoring 1500 radio stations - that can now be negated
certainot
Jul 2018
#76
I agree with you, but the big money who used to donate have been chased out by the pure people...who
Demsrule86
Jul 2018
#102
30 yrs ago RW put racist assholes on every corner and stump in the country yelling
certainot
Jul 2018
#116
The wealthy conservatives did this...and it takes money...what is your suggestion?
Demsrule86
Jul 2018
#137
those stations need money from advertisers, and support from uni and pro sports
certainot
Jul 2018
#145
They should be called out because saying oh...it is not your fault can only reinforce what they did
Demsrule86
Jul 2018
#105
Failed use of responsibility deserves blame. Voting is a responsibility. nt
stevenleser
Jul 2018
#144
+1 this is a fundamental fact that is being distorted and ignored by many - n/t
Locrian
Jul 2018
#154
yep. It would help if Democrats were willing to lose some big donors to serve their actual voters
yurbud
Jul 2018
#166
You sound like you think that voting is doing a favor for the candidates are
EffieBlack
Jul 2018
#211
I don't get that...unless you live in Vermont...why are there still Bernie supporters...I tell you,
Demsrule86
Jul 2018
#106
Democrats need to know where they stand, if they stand firm as Democrats, then...
Civic Justice
Jul 2018
#152
Some just beat that 'Dems are week! Dems in Dissaray!' old drum to anything they can find to
Wwcd
Jul 2018
#5
And then whine like babies about "divisiveness" whenever they're called on it.
EffieBlack
Jul 2018
#16
Yes they were...tons of post whining about the failure to get single payer....they taught him
Demsrule86
Jul 2018
#107
Hold up. I was angry about the homophobic preacher at the inauguration, but I never stopped voting D
yardwork
Jul 2018
#189
I was a lurker than...and saw the same thing...and we have never had a working majority since those
Demsrule86
Jul 2018
#108
the Republicans appeal to Bigotry . it's a Bigoted Straight White Xtian Party that hates everyone
JI7
Jul 2018
#51
It's not that they don't want it as badly. It's that they ALSO value the democratic process
pnwmom
Jul 2018
#31
Well then prepare for right wing, iron fisted rule for the rest of your life.
BlueTsunami2018
Jul 2018
#77
They are not weak. It is simply math...nothing they do can stop the SCOTUS pick...and it
Demsrule86
Jul 2018
#110
you are incorrect and this looks like an attempt to discourage Democratic voters.
Demsrule86
Jul 2018
#135
And the meme that Dems are "weak" encourages anti-Trump people not to bother voting at all.
pnwmom
Jul 2018
#29
Yes it does. I know some who whined about holding their nose and voting for Hillary...and they
Demsrule86
Jul 2018
#111
No they didn't. And the Dem leaders are in charge and working to try to win the mid term...they
Demsrule86
Jul 2018
#112
The same people who insist that Pelosi needs to go because she antagonizes Republicans
EffieBlack
Jul 2018
#148
'the same people who insist that Pelosi needs to go because she antagonizes Republicans'
melman
Jul 2018
#150
What did you want Democratic politicians to do? Tweak Mitch McConnell's nose?
Recursion
Jul 2018
#115
Prepare for a very bad year at school. This is what we were warning you about in 2010 and 2014
Recursion
Jul 2018
#194
Just because word "weak" has some stigma and baggage doesn't mean its wrong.
fescuerescue
Jul 2018
#50
We ARE weak if we give up before anyone's even been nominated. But we're better than that!.
pelerin
Jul 2018
#70
It's just another way to smear and attack Democrats and the Democratic party...
NurseJackie
Jul 2018
#91
+1000 Effie! This is the same sort of thing that happened in 2000 where we got two wars, two
Demsrule86
Jul 2018
#93
DEM LEADERSHIP (& MSM) ARE to blame for their silence about Greg Palast reports on '16 elections!
cloudythescribbler
Jul 2018
#155
Election law is my hobby and I spend a great deal of time volunteering in this area
Gothmog
Jul 2018
#180
What "silence"? They talk about it all the time. Eric Holder formed a damn NGO
Recursion
Jul 2018
#195
You are wrong and ill-informed -- and Gothmog is right. I remember Dem preparation & efforts.
Hekate
Jul 2018
#204
Exactly how do you propose "replacing him with another Dem" in the next four months?
EffieBlack
Jul 2018
#186