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Hekate

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17. What the ever loving hell, LBM20. Let me repeat: By the numbers, HILLARY WON. More people...

Thu Jul 12, 2018, 01:38 AM

Jul 2018

....wanted HER to be POTUS than wanted Trump. Clearly, her message and that of the Democratic Party resonated more strongly with the average American voter than did Trump's.

Many factors contributed to the coup, among them old-fashioned Jim Crow era voter suppression in new guise. Voting rolls were ethnically cleansed: in one state where Hillary "lost" by a narrow margin, 200,000 voters were purged from the registry, most of them likely Democrats.

I could go on listing reasons, but if you do not know this by now, and all you can do is blame Dems and our message, I wonder about you. None of the reasons given for how Trump got into the White House are whining, looking backward, or any of that crap. We are attempting to understand WHAT happened and HOW it happened (including treason) and how to FIX it.

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Kavanaugh will most likely be confirmed. It's what happens when you fail to WIN ELECTIONS. [View all] LBM20 Jul 2018 OP

Collins and Murkowski already signaled that he's "Qualified" fallout87 Jul 2018 #1

Yup. And to the shitheads who stayed home in 2016 or voted 3rd party, ya happy now? LBM20 Jul 2018 #2

Kavanaugh will say Roe v. Wade is established law. It worked last time, it'll work again. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jul 2018 #39

Republicans run on abtractions and that's one reason why they are successful Kaleva Jul 2018 #3

No, they promise jobs, low taxes, guns, and a strong military. They have a clear message. LBM20 Jul 2018 #5

They lie. Demsrule86 Jul 2018 #23

So what? Their voters believe it and that's all that matters. nt. Mariana Jul 2018 #43

Abstractions Kaleva Jul 2018 #54

Democrats have a strong message... handmade34 Jul 2018 #4

What is the message? LBM20 Jul 2018 #6

Let me introduce you to the Democratic Party Platform, as good a place to start as any... Hekate Jul 2018 #19

FWIW fescuerescue Jul 2018 #45

Funny you should mention elevators, as the OP has plunged us past the basement & is descending ... Hekate Jul 2018 #49

Pray tell, what office are you running for to fight the power? Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #7

No, we didn't lose 1000 seats over three election cycles because of Russia. LBM20 Jul 2018 #8

I know...they got a lot of help from the conservati'......erm....gop.(alt-right) Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #9

You're a local Democratic leader unhappy with Democratic leadership? lapucelle Jul 2018 #10

Woah. sheshe2 Jul 2018 #14

That "losing 1000 seats" refrain is getting boring. Why not tally the seats that we've WON... George II Jul 2018 #12

I think we lost all those seats because the purists Cha Jul 2018 #15

Because there haven't been many of them FBaggins Jul 2018 #40

But when were those "1,000 seat" lost? Last year? Two years ago? More like six, seven, or eight. George II Jul 2018 #41

Over the course of the last decade FBaggins Jul 2018 #48

In other words the Democrats "lost 1,000 seats" about eight years ago and virtually.... George II Jul 2018 #52

Nope. IOW... your #12 was nonsense. FBaggins Jul 2018 #55

No, it's not nonsense. To follow up on your last paragraph: George II Jul 2018 #57

He says without offering support FBaggins Jul 2018 #58

I pored over the NCSL site, couldn't find anything on state legislative seats over time. George II Jul 2018 #59

Do you have a message and clarity to put forth? Strength and good leadership? George II Jul 2018 #11

we suck when it comes to each and every election AlexSFCA Jul 2018 #13

No we don't suck. That's offensive. Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #26

I, for one, am sick and tired of this type of post. Everything is the sinkingfeeling Jul 2018 #16

+1...nt SidDithers Jul 2018 #27

Standing up and clapping. Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #38

+1 treestar Jul 2018 #53

What the ever loving hell, LBM20. Let me repeat: By the numbers, HILLARY WON. More people... Hekate Jul 2018 #17

It's another one Not dealing with the Cha Jul 2018 #20

Thanks for chiming in. I am sick to death of posters doing nothing but blaming Dem voters... Hekate Jul 2018 #21

Yeah, that is So 2016 Before We Knew Cha Jul 2018 #22

Defeatist suprcali Jul 2018 #18

BOT! Are_grits_groceries Jul 2018 #24

Amen. Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #28

I don't know if anyone else posted this before, but in response to your request for a "message".... George II Jul 2018 #25

when smart people refuse to vote or support the "lesser of 2 evils" and they don't care beachbum bob Jul 2018 #29

"FAIL TO WIN ELECTIONS" ? ? ? ! ! ! no_hypocrisy Jul 2018 #30

3 million I thought. Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #32

Sounds good. no_hypocrisy Jul 2018 #33

She won big. Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #34

Yep, in 1787 and 1804 those Ruskies plotted to elect a trump by inserting Electoral College in Hoyt Jul 2018 #36

More like people who believed the likes of Stein, Sarandon, and others and either didn't vote.... George II Jul 2018 #42

Yep, they were a big factor. The November 2016 election was clearly a "perfect storm." Hoyt Jul 2018 #44

I've got 2500 posts... Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #31

+1 Hekate Jul 2018 #50

I remember us winning in 2012 and not getting to even get a hearing in 2016 Blue_Adept Jul 2018 #35

Yes...But hey...Dems gotta follow the "rules" Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #37

Hillary won! edhopper Jul 2018 #46

"Winning" elections MFM008 Jul 2018 #47

Having an elevator pitch message is one thing the GOP does well. andym Jul 2018 #51

I believe the party had a platform, xmas74 Jul 2018 #56

Win elections? Hillary won over three million more votes than Trump. Autumn Jul 2018 #60