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bucolic_frolic

(43,111 posts)
16. It's politics
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 09:22 AM
Jul 2018

Honesty is only part of the equation. The amounts of money are obscene, the special interests behind the ideology are manipulative. No one is saying let the people decide because they can't and are easily manipulated. Dishonesty is not often punished at the ballot box. So parties will do what they can get away with, or push until public opinion pushes back, which it rarely does against Republicans because they control so much of the media narrative. They lead the public, and the public is easily led. It's like trying to break into Fox News with a liberal platform.

When you get the other 49 states to restructure their voting without winning elections first, email me. I'd love to read that outcome. Democrats winning an honest election would mean sanity had overwhelmed the right wing fringe infrastructure. Until external events intervene - depression, war, panic - elections are won by counting votes, and sometimes we don't even do that honestly.

But I applaud your ethics. I just don't think it will lead change our direction a lot.

That's dishonest and wrong. Lars39 Jul 2018 #1
Technically, it's just a lie of omission. Funtatlaguy Jul 2018 #3
Why would he think she already voted if she tells him they will vote together? LisaL Jul 2018 #27
+1000. It's dishonest. It's wrong. It's betrayal. Hortensis Jul 2018 #21
Ugh. I agree. Being deceitful to one's spouse says a lot about a marriage. Tipperary Jul 2018 #24
Not cool teach1st Jul 2018 #2
I'm all for it RhodeIslandOne Jul 2018 #4
Something from the Mitch McConnell play book ? magicarpet Jul 2018 #5
Not quite that nefarious, I don't think 🤔 Funtatlaguy Jul 2018 #6
Unfortunately, there are probably more Repugs Croney Jul 2018 #7
One more reason to fight fire with Fire Funtatlaguy Jul 2018 #8
Turning voter suppression on the party of voter suppression is no vice bucolic_frolic Jul 2018 #9
Stooping to dishonest and undemocratic means to a democratic end is no virtue. nt ancianita Jul 2018 #11
Do you want to win elections? bucolic_frolic Jul 2018 #12
Really? Being like them is the only way to win? You think we've exhausted all honest possibilities? ancianita Jul 2018 #15
It's politics bucolic_frolic Jul 2018 #16
Politics only? No. Democracy, the goal of which is utilitarian: the greatest good for the greatest ancianita Jul 2018 #20
One woman lying to her husband will not "win elections" Takket Jul 2018 #36
No. (nt) GreenEyedLefty Jul 2018 #10
Kill 2 birds with one stone. Hit him in the head with a bat knocking some sense into him and sending Pepsidog Jul 2018 #13
Wow. Iggo Jul 2018 #19
Oooh advocating domestic violence. How edgy. EllieBC Jul 2018 #29
Really? Get a life and a sense of humor. Only a moron would see my post as a call for violence and I Pepsidog Jul 2018 #39
Let the asshole vote. Many pig-headed GOPers won't admit how wrong oasis Jul 2018 #14
I would never be married to anyone who votes for the GOP. SamKnause Jul 2018 #17
Not cool. Iggo Jul 2018 #18
I can't even imagine being married to someone Bettie Jul 2018 #22
It would be better to get someone who doesn't vote to vote dansolo Jul 2018 #23
this (N/t) Lefta Dissenter Jul 2018 #31
Dishonest, deceitful and manipulative. LisaL Jul 2018 #25
This is horrible. Unrec. Agschmid Jul 2018 #26
Everyone has their own marriage dance janterry Jul 2018 #28
Stupid plan. Why not just provide encouragement and transportation for those unlikely to vote? Freethinker65 Jul 2018 #30
not good... handmade34 Jul 2018 #32
The husband sounds clueless, and the wife is controlling and manipulative. Bluepinky Jul 2018 #33
Why are you married to that guy. Corvo Bianco Jul 2018 #34
That's one of the dumbest things I've ever read Takket Jul 2018 #35
I would never be married to or date a Republican. Funtatlaguy Jul 2018 #37
Too actively deceptive for my tastes. Ilsa Jul 2018 #38
It's less messy Turbineguy Jul 2018 #40
You just made my day 🤙 Funtatlaguy Jul 2018 #41
So that's how we roll now? Jake Stern Jul 2018 #42
To keep anyone from voting is flat out immoral and should be criminal, IMO. n/t cynatnite Jul 2018 #43
Dems the party of nice Funtatlaguy Jul 2018 #44
Sounds like a great marriage. egduj Jul 2018 #45
You don't think marriages survive worse lies? Funtatlaguy Jul 2018 #46
It worries me people are ok with this wonkwest Jul 2018 #47
What horrid thinking. Solly Mack Jul 2018 #48
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