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OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
138. By nominating a Democratic Socialist?
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 07:05 PM
Jul 2018

A sizeable chunk of "these folks more inclined to Democratic politics" (sic) don't vote anyway, and certainly won't vote for an "establishment" candidate. Meanwhile, you face the very real possibility of centrist to conservative Democrats, who reliably vote, staying home.

Great plan.

DU rec... SidDithers Jul 2018 #1
Putin's strategy involves both the right and the left. yardwork Jul 2018 #2
I fear you are right. OnDoutside Jul 2018 #34
Just like there's no "right time" to talk about guns, theaocp Jul 2018 #3
They refer to themselves as Democratic socialists. Unlike you, Squinch Jul 2018 #4
you have like ten people here regularly cheering on these hit threads on AOC bigtree Jul 2018 #8
Whatever bigtree. Most of us think fighting republicans is a better idea than Squinch Jul 2018 #10
most of have us actually experienced a primary before bigtree Jul 2018 #16
Not in this climate you haven't. In case you haven't noticed, we are in a crisis. ALL of our money Squinch Jul 2018 #47
you should be directing this to the people inclined away from your candidate bigtree Jul 2018 #56
That's nice, bigtree. You keep fighting against Democrats. Buh bye. Squinch Jul 2018 #59
I'm not fighting your candidate, or any other Democrat, so you can stuff that lie bigtree Jul 2018 #61
Well said bigtree, Well said. watoos Jul 2018 #85
I'm wary of anyone affiliated with Brand New Congress. lapucelle Jul 2018 #95
Good Corbin.. stay the hell Cha Jul 2018 #154
I really like Ms Davids Gothmog Jul 2018 #101
what's not to like? bigtree Jul 2018 #104
Jeffrey Wright! Sharice is getting some National Cha Jul 2018 #115
Yep Gothmog Jul 2018 #145
Team Sharice.. A New Sharice Tweet to me.. Mahalo, Goth!! Cha Jul 2018 #149
Sorry but I think it's funny that Ocasio-Cortez is talking up women being elected in congress while Gothmog Jul 2018 #144
Exactly, Squinch.. I think there's more than "10 people Cha Jul 2018 #114
You also have ten people in every thread.... RhodeIslandOne Jul 2018 #38
They're called primaries. theaocp Jul 2018 #43
Yes, I have certainly seen a surprising amount of that here lately... Hekate Jul 2018 #44
Yeah, he tried to marginalize.. didn't work. Cha Jul 2018 #123
+11111111 KPN Jul 2018 #60
It's not a hit piece; if it was I wouldn't have posted it Bradshaw3 Jul 2018 #81
he may have been, at a time when he could get away with claiming he was a leftist bigtree Jul 2018 #88
I wasn't aware of his shift Bradshaw3 Jul 2018 #105
fair enough bigtree Jul 2018 #110
By nominating a Democratic Socialist? OilemFirchen Jul 2018 #138
If you want to write seats off, go ahead & ignore the electorate. And fuck divisive termnilogy. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #70
Exactly. And Single payer is not exclusive to socialist countries. SunSeeker Jul 2018 #82
I am not aware of the health care in any socialist countries GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #147
Well said nt Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #131
She made a grave mistake of going to Kansas True Blue American Jul 2018 #75
How is pointing out that socialists will not draw GOP voters in a center right state a "smear"? SunSeeker Jul 2018 #76
They can't see past labeling anyone who BS doesn't support.. Cha Jul 2018 #106
Thanks for posting that tweet! Hope she wins! nt SunSeeker Jul 2018 #111
So hope Sharice wins.. here's another Sweet tweet from last night.. Cha Jul 2018 #118
Thank you for posting this Cha MustLoveBeagles Jul 2018 #139
"Sanders and Ocasio-Cortez (...) approach that could help elect repubs" --- I wonder if... NurseJackie Jul 2018 #5
Well Put NJ Me. Jul 2018 #11
This! smirkymonkey Jul 2018 #23
Shoot, She Hasn't Even Been Elected Me. Jul 2018 #27
I stand corrected. She won the primary. smirkymonkey Jul 2018 #53
Totally Agree Me. Jul 2018 #96
It would be useful to remember that the Democratic color is blue. kstewart33 Jul 2018 #46
As lapucelle pointed out, very close to OC's district there is a rare chance to unseat the Squinch Jul 2018 #49
We could use her help on LI helping us flip Peter King's seat. lapucelle Jul 2018 #31
Now There's Someone I'd Love To See Gone Me. Jul 2018 #36
Peter King is damaged goods and vulnerable for the first time in many years. lapucelle Jul 2018 #57
Fingers Crossed Me. Jul 2018 #97
I hope she gets the help she deserves. brer cat Jul 2018 #143
Exactly NJ! They don't seem to know how to R B Garr Jul 2018 #25
Well put. I too would like to know, since this is beginning jrthin Jul 2018 #45
I'm not sure Bradshaw3 Jul 2018 #77
Glad someone is pointing it out besides Cha Jul 2018 #109
he sounds a bit self-loathing here bigtree Jul 2018 #6
Ronald Radosh is melman Jul 2018 #7
inspiring bigtree Jul 2018 #9
Bernie Sanders regularly criticizes the party. R B Garr Jul 2018 #12
is he associating his criticisms with a right-wing think tank? bigtree Jul 2018 #13
It wouldn't matter where it came from BannonsLiver Jul 2018 #17
au contraire bigtree Jul 2018 #19
Majorly Whinging. Cha Jul 2018 #133
LOL, how naive. R B Garr Jul 2018 #20
is he a 'fellow' at a right wing think tank? bigtree Jul 2018 #21
He is a Senator who doesn't want to be a Democrat. nt R B Garr Jul 2018 #22
if we get two more seats in the senate bigtree Jul 2018 #24
You should read the Mueller indictments and how his R B Garr Jul 2018 #26
republicans use a lot of statements to stir dissension and division among Democrats bigtree Jul 2018 #30
The title of that book looks like he could R B Garr Jul 2018 #32
defending Democratic candidates under attack here, on this thread, as well bigtree Jul 2018 #42
You aren't defending Democrats under attack. R B Garr Jul 2018 #136
I wonder if he tells Tom Carper "hey no hard feelings I want you gone" RhodeIslandOne Jul 2018 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author bigtree Jul 2018 #51
last time I looked bigtree Jul 2018 #54
My point is it's not normal for a sitting Senator... RhodeIslandOne Jul 2018 #55
well, that's certainly a novel twist on the complaints here bigtree Jul 2018 #62
I'm sorry you don't know enough about politics to realize that's protocol RhodeIslandOne Jul 2018 #64
lol, maybe I'll need another 40 years involvement in politics bigtree Jul 2018 #67
+++++ sheshe2 Jul 2018 #65
i don't think carper really cares or is surprised JI7 Jul 2018 #132
Excellent point, RB. "BS is just being helpful" I've seen posts like that. Cha Jul 2018 #134
Centrist reaching out to the right has done so well over the last 30 years. Voltaire2 Jul 2018 #14
Agreed. guillaumeb Jul 2018 #29
they are trying to defeat some democrats who have won in long time red districts JI7 Jul 2018 #39
Ah, but in this new world "establishment" and "centrist" is all based on who you know, not on Squinch Jul 2018 #50
Exactly and the worst litmus test. Cha Jul 2018 #125
+1 uponit7771 Jul 2018 #157
Oh well - if Ronald Radosh tells us what Michael Harrington would think - then it must be right. Nanjeanne Jul 2018 #15
lol ProfessorPlum Jul 2018 #150
I am no fan of bernie but rethugs seem to be genuinly afraid of him AlexSFCA Jul 2018 #18
No, Repubs were afraid of Clinton. Sanders isn't a concern to them Wwcd Jul 2018 #79
didnt realize bernie voted against magnitsky act AlexSFCA Jul 2018 #87
"DEMS All Voted Yes" melman Jul 2018 #89
From the article: guillaumeb Jul 2018 #28
Uh, Conor Lamb? RhodeIslandOne Jul 2018 #41
If we lose in November, the USA is over. Done. And I would NEVER forgive Bernie, ecstatic Jul 2018 #33
+1...nt SidDithers Jul 2018 #35
yup handmade34 Jul 2018 #48
even though you have none, 0 evidence that Sanders has negatively impacted the last race or this one JCanete Jul 2018 #69
IF we lose in November GaryCnf Jul 2018 #72
I believe the strategy is to run based on what fits your district ecstatic Jul 2018 #92
you win if you best fit your district and your voters know something about you, JCanete Jul 2018 #100
+1 Jamaal510 Jul 2018 #148
Post removed Post removed Jul 2018 #135
I'm not sure the author gets it JI7 Jul 2018 #37
I no longer live there but I was born and raised in Kansas. octoberlib Jul 2018 #52
Exactly. But a Kansan-born daughter of a drill sargeant does have a chance. SunSeeker Jul 2018 #165
From Wikipedia GaryCnf Jul 2018 #58
boom! bigtree Jul 2018 #63
Or like one of our local popinjays says: Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2018 #119
how could it help to elect repubs? This sounds like more bullshit discouragement of going JCanete Jul 2018 #66
Please post a link to that poll. nt SunSeeker Jul 2018 #86
act.boldprogressives.org/survey/2018polling_ks03/ JCanete Jul 2018 #102
Radosh! No thanks. I'll pass. Democratic Socialist? Hardly -- more like KPN Jul 2018 #68
I thought r/w sources weren't supposed to be used here bigtree Jul 2018 #83
Evidently since this article is still here maybe that rule doesn't apply if they are attacking Quixote1818 Jul 2018 #93
Oh dear snowybirdie Jul 2018 #71
I will not criticize Sanders and Ocasio underthematrix Jul 2018 #73
Sure seems self-evident, doesn't it? Squinch Jul 2018 #108
We should not run the risks of turning over leadership of the Progressive movement bucolic_frolic Jul 2018 #74
a Socialist empedocles Jul 2018 #78
proof please ProfessorPlum Jul 2018 #151
trump and the republicons knows the key is all about the House in November empedocles Jul 2018 #80
Bingo. And with Nov. 3 1/2 months away, running to replace sitting Dems... brush Jul 2018 #140
Yep. nt SunSeeker Jul 2018 #84
She is not the leader of the progressive movement oberliner Jul 2018 #122
with so few leaders in the progressive movement ProfessorPlum Jul 2018 #152
K&R for visibility. lunamagica Jul 2018 #90
So...the just of the article is that there are different strands of "socialism". LiberalLovinLug Jul 2018 #91
I think you mean "gist" oberliner Jul 2018 #94
You are right, there isn't one perfect... reACTIONary Jul 2018 #98
Why is AOC campaigning for men over women candidates? Gothmog Jul 2018 #99
there are other women competing in those races bigtree Jul 2018 #107
Welders supported AOC's primary campaign? SunSeeker Jul 2018 #112
they share agendas bigtree Jul 2018 #113
Well, Davids' agenda is a livable wage, good education and universal health coverage. SunSeeker Jul 2018 #116
She does not promote Medicare for All, tuition free college, a $15 minimum wage oberliner Jul 2018 #120
She absolutely does promote Medicare expansion/universal coverage. SunSeeker Jul 2018 #127
Have you even been to her priorities page GaryCnf Jul 2018 #137
Yes, I have been to her site. I quote from it in this thread. SunSeeker Jul 2018 #141
And GaryCnf Jul 2018 #155
And SunSeeker Jul 2018 #156
I post her words GaryCnf Jul 2018 #158
I posted Davids' words. You seem determined not to read them. nt SunSeeker Jul 2018 #160
What part of this is anything other than pure mainstream GaryCnf Jul 2018 #142
She is in the mainstrain of progressives Dems. She is to the left of many red state Dems on guns. SunSeeker Jul 2018 #161
Do you not see the irony GaryCnf Jul 2018 #162
So you admit you lied when you said she's "no further left that the most right-leaning Democrats." SunSeeker Jul 2018 #163
you know well that's the business of these individual campaigns bigtree Jul 2018 #126
So Bernie is just doing this "for his chance to represent Democrats in the fall"?! nt SunSeeker Jul 2018 #129
Sharice Davids is an excellent choice to represent her Cha Jul 2018 #128
Davids is not just as progressive as Welders oberliner Jul 2018 #117
You are dead wrong, Oberliner. SunSeeker Jul 2018 #130
Yeah, why is that poster going Cha Jul 2018 #153
Indeed. nt SunSeeker Jul 2018 #164
Republicons will use Sanders and Ocasio-Cortez as examples randr Jul 2018 #103
Republicans always make crap up to attack Democrats oberliner Jul 2018 #121
Exactly. And those who are not paying as close attention as we do will believe it. Squinch Jul 2018 #124
I only Democrats would celebrate their diversity randr Jul 2018 #146
Thanks for your OP, Bradshaw! Cha Jul 2018 #159
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