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How about no. Voltaire2 Jul 2018 #1
Not saying we do not need an Infrastructure Project. The American Society of Civil Engineers c-rational Jul 2018 #4
I have to agree. Blue_true Jul 2018 #14
Plus the unions would scream bloody murder. DinahMoeHum Jul 2018 #52
No they wouldn't...n/t bluecollar2 Jul 2018 #112
Please read what Kilgore has to say (Posts 101 and 108_) DinahMoeHum Jul 2018 #118
Former union member myself bluecollar2 Jul 2018 #119
Why reject it? Both can be done. The CCC during FDR's admin... brush Jul 2018 #28
America should question how capitalism works in this country. kentuck Jul 2018 #33
Here you go JDC Jul 2018 #2
I have loved the idea for years...National Service could make this nation heal old wounds... Moostache Jul 2018 #3
Because every bill that has been introduced has required (military) basic training Ms. Toad Jul 2018 #42
I think the OP is suggesting nat'l service with military as an option... brush Jul 2018 #48
My point is that there have been numerous bills introduced Ms. Toad Jul 2018 #91
We'll see. I don't see a Dem sponsored bill requiring military service... brush Jul 2018 #102
It's hardly knee jerk. I've been working on this issue for decades. Ms. Toad Jul 2018 #109
Agreed. c-rational Jul 2018 #59
We aren't peasant slaves to build roads and clear ditches for the government. braddy Jul 2018 #5
No we are citizens - teacher's assistants, health care helpers, park helpers, and many more. c-rational Jul 2018 #10
It's spelled Slave I don't want the government to enslave us. braddy Jul 2018 #17
Do you think of the military draft as slavery? Hekate Jul 2018 #70
Conscription is the most undemocratic thing a representative government can do - (obviously Midwestern Democrat Jul 2018 #78
I tend to agree -- with you Hekate Jul 2018 #83
You can't be serious. There are still many unemployed people... brush Jul 2018 #29
WWII got us out of the Depression and we aren't in the Depression and were those men forced into braddy Jul 2018 #30
The depression lasted for many years. The WPA and CCC put many to... brush Jul 2018 #31
No one was forced into the CCC. It was the great depression, remember? brush Jul 2018 #49
So it is not relevant to this thread for several major reasons. braddy Jul 2018 #53
Ahhh...saying that the CCC was forced labor isn't relevant. brush Jul 2018 #54
I knew they weren't forced, and they and the depression aren't relevant to this threads proposal, or braddy Jul 2018 #57
Depends on what your perspective is. If you're unemployed with... brush Jul 2018 #74
Employers are desperate for workers and working for welfare is held as a no go, we are not in the braddy Jul 2018 #76
You sure you're on the right site? No one is talking about forced labor. brush Jul 2018 #81
Are you on the right thread? ""mandatory national service. All Americans are required to serve."" braddy Jul 2018 #82
I'm in favor of it being voluntary. Calm the fuck down with the slavery.. brush Jul 2018 #86
Voluntary isn't what the thread is about and voluntary is called a job, we have plenty of those now, braddy Jul 2018 #88
We are in all but name, when the majority of Americans can't even lay their hands on $400 ... Hekate Jul 2018 #75
LOL, this is getting silly, we don't need to enslave Americans. braddy Jul 2018 #77
You are the only one in this thread who blathers on about slavery.Nobody is proposing any such thing Hekate Jul 2018 #79
Slaves to the state, I'm against it. braddy Jul 2018 #80
You have a rather broad definition then. Are you a Libertarian, perhaps? Hekate Jul 2018 #84
LOL, no, and I didn't know that was required to disagree with being drafted as a slave to the gov. braddy Jul 2018 #85
My grandfather was an electrician in the CCC after he lost his business in the Depression... Hekate Jul 2018 #67
mandatory like a draft eShirl Jul 2018 #6
Yes, I believe it should be mandatory like jury duty. I see it as an equalizer. c-rational Jul 2018 #11
But, it wouldn't be leftofcool Jul 2018 #13
OR, like many New Deal jobs, it could be used Hortensis Jul 2018 #16
You left out Asians, would they be in the offices or the fields? braddy Jul 2018 #19
Well, the Republicans would put them all on a slow boat MineralMan Jul 2018 #20
Would the Asians be in the fields or the offices? braddy Jul 2018 #21
They'd be sent out of the country, as I said. MineralMan Jul 2018 #22
Why then and not now, why China? braddy Jul 2018 #23
Do think about that a little longer, OK? MineralMan Jul 2018 #25
National service will lead to the deportation of all Asian Americans to China, got it. braddy Jul 2018 #26
Come on. It's tongue in cheek. And we know even the repugs would... brush Jul 2018 #32
It was the continued answer to my question responding to post 13, which left out the Asians, braddy Jul 2018 #38
Disregard the naysayers. If such a program was ever installed... brush Jul 2018 #40
So from each according to their abilities fescuerescue Jul 2018 #46
I wouldn't go so far as the communism/socialism meme... brush Jul 2018 #47
Well, that's an idea that gets brought up from time to time. MineralMan Jul 2018 #7
We know the repugs would never start such a program. brush Jul 2018 #34
In any case, it would be abused from the very start. MineralMan Jul 2018 #35
I see it differently but post your reasons. Programs like this have worked before. brush Jul 2018 #37
Not in this country, they haven't. MineralMan Jul 2018 #39
Ahhh...there's an alternative to the military. brush Jul 2018 #41
We have long favored this Stinky The Clown Jul 2018 #8
And then trump could get his golf courses tended and mowed for free... NightWatcher Jul 2018 #9
Nope! leftofcool Jul 2018 #12
They tried that during the depression. Called them the CC camps. shraby Jul 2018 #15
Civialian Conservation Corps. There was also Works Project Administration. Hekate Jul 2018 #87
Make voting a national holiday and make it mandatory kcr Jul 2018 #18
Who said anything about forced labor? brush Jul 2018 #36
No mandatory voting.... tomp Jul 2018 #89
No thanks. SamKnause Jul 2018 #24
I've thought so for a long time catrose Jul 2018 #27
Only if the choices are equally rewarded Ms. Toad Jul 2018 #43
Make it voluntary with benefits and pay all equal whether non-military... brush Jul 2018 #50
Military salaries aren't economically competitive... brooklynite Jul 2018 #51
I'm not suggesting anything of the sort. Those details are not unsolvable problems. brush Jul 2018 #55
It should at least be an option. Ms. Toad Jul 2018 #92
Agreed. All would receive the same pay...whatever option chosen. c-rational Jul 2018 #62
Well that doesn't seem fair fescuerescue Jul 2018 #90
There are actually progressive organizations that structure their pay that way Ms. Toad Jul 2018 #94
Sounds interesting fescuerescue Jul 2018 #99
Their view is that everyone needs a steady income, Ms. Toad Jul 2018 #110
yea I get it fescuerescue Jul 2018 #115
Bread for the World was Ms. Toad Jul 2018 #120
So we eliminate all those high paying jobs fescuerescue Jul 2018 #44
Not at all. I for one do not believe the unemployment numbers given. I believe there are a lot c-rational Jul 2018 #63
How will you enforce the mandatory part? Nt B2G Jul 2018 #45
Good question. Maybe the same way the Selective Service was run. c-rational Jul 2018 #64
What if you have a full time job(s)? B2G Jul 2018 #65
Make service typically between 18-25. There will always be exceptions. c-rational Jul 2018 #68
So college is out. Nt B2G Jul 2018 #69
Sure, full-time, benefits including pension. jcboon Jul 2018 #56
No. roamer65 Jul 2018 #58
Great idea! Thunderbeast Jul 2018 #60
Thank you. I like your structure also, and the title universal service obligation. c-rational Jul 2018 #71
Required? Meh. A new WPA wouldn't be a bad idea, though. Oneironaut Jul 2018 #61
good idea handmade34 Jul 2018 #66
Agreed it would take a lot of work to make it work well and fairly, and a task worth undertaking imo c-rational Jul 2018 #72
Right now we need to get rid of the GOP. If they try their hands at this it will be a nightmare... Hekate Jul 2018 #73
No , there are already many volunteer programs out there JI7 Jul 2018 #93
This is not a call for voluntary service. All are included and you get paid. One year of service c-rational Jul 2018 #97
no, it's just not realistic. JI7 Jul 2018 #104
Would wealthy kids be included? Doubt it dembotoz Jul 2018 #95
Yes. Everyone is included. That is the point. c-rational Jul 2018 #96
I thought the point was to fix things that need fixing in this country. fescuerescue Jul 2018 #100
yes, they will get "jobs" serving us embassy in France JI7 Jul 2018 #105
Mitt Romney got Paris money counts bullshit walks dembotoz Jul 2018 #111
NO. KentuckyWoman Jul 2018 #98
No work for private companies and all must serve, that is the point. c-rational Jul 2018 #106
My SIL says no way without a strike Kilgore Jul 2018 #101
Do not know what an SIL is, but I am pro union. This is not meant to compete with private sector c-rational Jul 2018 #107
SIL Son in Law Kilgore Jul 2018 #108
I'm on board with that. byronius Jul 2018 #103
I will not indenture myself to a government that controls so many aspects of my life. Orsino Jul 2018 #113
I think it's a good idea. bluecollar2 Jul 2018 #114
no thanks. KG Jul 2018 #116
I disagree with the unemployment figures published, but the idea for national service is not just c-rational Jul 2018 #117
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