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discntnt_irny_srcsm

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19. The only hope I see of an amendment level change...
Sat Jul 28, 2018, 08:23 PM
Jul 2018

...would be one which removes the militia clause. I would prefer not to make that change. I dislike removing the militia clause because I would prefer to see states begin real militias and make service mandatory. Also, actually removing the militia clause (I'm not an expert in Constitutional law) may necessitate other Constitutional changes relating to the other mentions of the militia.

I believe that the Bill of Rights says what it does because many expert minds from all of the states and the various conventions found a consensus to agree on of what rights all people had. It's been over 220 years and the BoR has not changed. I think it's fine as is.

The Young v Hawaii decision is a decision for the ability to carry period. It is and has always been upheld by various courts that states have the authority to restrict concealed carry as they see fit. States which grant virtually no CC permits have to accept that OC will be found as acceptable when similar laws are challenged.

BTW, I'm not sure if it is correct but your profile says you are in Arkansas. IIRC that is one of the states which now has unrestricted concealed carry. If you can legally buy a concealable gun, you can carry concealed. Maybe I'm wrong.

Anyhow, a big thanks for replying and engaging in discussion. I also appreciate you putting the news on the 9th Circuit decision out there.

Have great evening.

white people problems mshasta Jul 2018 #1
Couldn't disagree more. TomSlick Jul 2018 #2
Laws won't be passed until Black people open carry en masse. nt Lucky Luciano Jul 2018 #3
As governor Reagan hurriedly pushed CA gun restrictions when Black Panthers armed themselves. nt tblue37 Jul 2018 #18
our founding fathers created laws for the good of our nation mshasta Jul 2018 #5
Not bloody likely... Baconator Jul 2018 #33
+1, another whites-only law uponit7771 Jul 2018 #22
Thanks for doing that. elleng Jul 2018 #4
Not sure if the the Ninth will take it up En Banc DetroitLegalBeagle Jul 2018 #6
Surely the State of Hawaii will seek cert whether or not there is an en banc decision. TomSlick Jul 2018 #7
Possibly, possibly not DetroitLegalBeagle Jul 2018 #9
Yeah, Heller was a fucked up decision HopeAgain Jul 2018 #8
There will still be plenty of room for regulation of carrying in public aikoaiko Jul 2018 #10
Ultimately, if this decision stands... Puha Ekapi_2 Jul 2018 #11
That's worse. TomSlick Jul 2018 #13
It... Puha Ekapi_2 Jul 2018 #15
I think your map is out of date discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2018 #36
You do already Kilgore Jul 2018 #31
It's better than "may issue"... Baconator Jul 2018 #35
Heller was nonsense. FUGAMC Jul 2018 #12
Agreed. TomSlick Jul 2018 #14
I think the 9th Amendment can be used to reach the same conclusion as Heller Recursion Jul 2018 #26
Please excuse if I backtrack here and there in this discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2018 #16
The unintended consequences to which I referred TomSlick Jul 2018 #17
The only hope I see of an amendment level change... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2018 #19
I'm unsure what is meant by unrestricted concealed carry. TomSlick Jul 2018 #20
Tim, unrestricted concealed carry refers to states with no permit requirement. no1ofconsequence Jul 2018 #21
People carry long arms in Arizona pretty damn regularly. I've seen it more than once in downtown ... marble falls Jul 2018 #23
Has any mischief come of it? no1ofconsequence Jul 2018 #27
Off course not. Open carriers are saints, their rifles are their crosses. Do you think mischief ... marble falls Jul 2018 #28
I take it from your response that none of the numerous people you claim to have actually seen open no1ofconsequence Jul 2018 #29
So what? Not too many of us have seen anyone shot by someone with a legal or illegal ... marble falls Jul 2018 #30
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2018 #34
Another person has explained unrestricted concealed carry discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2018 #24
Scalia was surprisingly cautious in Heller Recursion Jul 2018 #25
What a sick, fucked up country we live in. smirkymonkey Jul 2018 #32
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