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wonkwest

(463 posts)
Fri Aug 10, 2018, 11:12 PM Aug 2018

Do you ever just not get racism? [View all]

Super disclaimer: I'm a white gay male in his 30s

I got home from work early today. Did some grocery shopping and realized I forgot a lemon. My neighbor's complex has lemon and lime trees (California). So, I thought, "Ok, I'll nab something as required."

I have Muslim immigrant neighbors. Quite a few. And they're guarded as hell. I wave hello, they wave hello back, but our lives intersect not at all. I'm an openly gay male, have a party now and then, but I also listen to their gatherings as well. It's a balance. But I'm always trying to be cognizant of what will or will not make them comfortable. No leather orgies! (I kid).

I leave my front door open because I like fresh air. Their toddler wandered in one day. Must've gotten away from the parents. I entertained him until I could figure out where mom or dad was. They were decidedly panicked. No. Kiddo likes stuffed giraffes.

But, five days ago, their packages arrived at my house. I knocked and handed them over. They were closed, circumspect, suspicious of me. I got the feeling I was invading their space in some way. "Why do you have that?!" I left it alone.

But today, I was standing half in the street staring at the lemon tree, just trying to figure out what to use with brown rice. And my neighbor came out, "No, don't get that one. Get this one." And he told me how to tell what I should use and not. Then we got into cooking, and then we realized, we kind of like each other.

So, I am actually pretty happy. To make that cultural connection, to realize we're just people.

I don't get racism. I just don't. Why? I still struggle with that. We have so much to learn from each other. Why shut it down.

Meh. Musing. Sorry. Just a thought I've been having since.


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Good story. Thanks for sharing. More interaction then introspection needed. brush Aug 2018 #1
I don't get racism either vlyons Aug 2018 #2
My Irish-American brother married a Mexican wonkwest Aug 2018 #5
Most of it is social cognitioning of entitlement uponit7771 Aug 2018 #15
It very much is wonkwest Aug 2018 #31
Why would you hold hate in your heart for any reason whatsoever? vlyons Aug 2018 #21
Suspicion of those unlike ourselves is hardwired by evolution. In nature, those tblue37 Aug 2018 #22
That's exactly it, or at least it was JackintheGreen Aug 2018 #11
Russia starting to sound like Nazi Germany, that's messed up uponit7771 Aug 2018 #16
People are people. They are not born with prejudice or hate. It is taught., it stems from fear. onecaliberal Aug 2018 #3
Yes I focus on the person and not the color of their skin or religion kimbutgar Aug 2018 #4
You're not alone brother. Glamrock Aug 2018 #6
Gary/South Bend is a thing wonkwest Aug 2018 #27
I looked up Chicago newspapers from 1966 Freddie Aug 2018 #36
I actually just called my mom about this wonkwest Aug 2018 #40
My late FIL was the same way Freddie Aug 2018 #43
It 's a thing wonkwest Aug 2018 #69
What a sweet story. Thank you for that. sandensea Aug 2018 #7
LOL! wonkwest Aug 2018 #28
I am so grateful I grew up in an integrated area nini Aug 2018 #8
I grew up lily white wonkwest Aug 2018 #29
I agree it is completely baffling to me. coeur_de_lion Aug 2018 #9
I have learned so, so much wonkwest Aug 2018 #30
You're lucky coeur_de_lion Aug 2018 #32
It's a self-induced perception wonkwest Aug 2018 #34
So true coeur_de_lion Aug 2018 #37
But how to inculcate that in our children wonkwest Aug 2018 #41
I like the way you think coeur_de_lion Aug 2018 #42
People are people wonkwest Aug 2018 #45
You seem like a good person to know coeur_de_lion Aug 2018 #46
It's a thing wonkwest Aug 2018 #56
I just love this whole thread coeur_de_lion Aug 2018 #47
It baffles me TlalocW Aug 2018 #10
We are All first and foremost Individuals. NoSmoke Aug 2018 #12
I don't get that kind of racism either lunatica Aug 2018 #13
Thank you for sharing! I don't get racism either. CaptainTruth Aug 2018 #14
I do think most racism in the US comes from unacknowledged certainty in the perpetrator that Squinch Aug 2018 #17
Rodgers and Hammerstein got it. Dave Starsky Aug 2018 #18
THIS!!! nikatnyte Aug 2018 #52
Fear. Mostly; deep seated and in several forms... Guilded Lilly Aug 2018 #19
I Don't Get It, Either Leith Aug 2018 #20
Back when Dennis Miller was funny, he once said, CrispyQ Aug 2018 #23
This whole thread is excellent stopwastingmymoney Aug 2018 #48
Dennis was funny before he made a sharp turn to the right. CrispyQ Aug 2018 #54
I have never understood it. I don't get it either. sinkingfeeling Aug 2018 #24
My openness to other skin colors and ethnicities is on a rather primal level. Aristus Aug 2018 #25
Great tiny slice of life story. Thanks for sharing. KPN Aug 2018 #26
being gay makes you more sensitive to racial discrimination AlexSFCA Aug 2018 #33
I think so, too wonkwest Aug 2018 #35
My Dad was Archie Bunker Horse with no Name Aug 2018 #38
Personal experience plays a role. I'm gay too, and frankly nervous around some Muslims. MadDAsHell Aug 2018 #39
It's a thing wonkwest Aug 2018 #44
Tweeted and K&R yuiyoshida Aug 2018 #49
Thanks, miss n/t wonkwest Aug 2018 #65
dou itashimashite! yuiyoshida Aug 2018 #68
My introduction to racial equality Mr.Bill Aug 2018 #50
People most readily fear that of which they have little understanding GeoWilliam750 Aug 2018 #51
That's exactly right. forgotmylogin Aug 2018 #53
Tribalism & evolution CloudWatcher Aug 2018 #55
When I first moved to an apartment in Manhattan, my next door neighbors.... George II Aug 2018 #57
This message was self-deleted by its author Kashkakat v.2.0 Aug 2018 #58
With Muslims, it's not just racism. It's their religion. Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #59
No, I don't get any of it. Initech Aug 2018 #60
Unfortunately, I do get it. bitterross Aug 2018 #61
I'm now being alert stalked wonkwest Aug 2018 #62
Maybe it would be nice if you didn't hate Democrats? betsuni Aug 2018 #63
Having spent a lot of my life overseas, I have come to the conclusion that as humans we are Nitram Aug 2018 #64
Fear of the other exists in many different forms. kwassa Aug 2018 #66
I need to complain about this thread. kwassa Aug 2018 #67
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