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Ouch SHRED Aug 2018 #1
This is blown WAY out of proportion EndGOPPropaganda Aug 2018 #2
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Other Dems don't get this kind of exposure EndGOPPropaganda Aug 2018 #10
Sure they do. Dems in leadership absolutely do. And there is a reason they are in leadership. stevenleser Aug 2018 #11
No. There is correct, and there is nitpicking. EndGOPPropaganda Aug 2018 #15
Nitpicking? She is wrong, and easily demonstrated to be wrong. She is going to be in congress and is stevenleser Aug 2018 #17
She is right on big picture issues EndGOPPropaganda Aug 2018 #21
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Crucifixion not required for jaywalking EndGOPPropaganda Aug 2018 #23
Elected officials do two things, vote on bills and public speaking on the issues. Neither is stevenleser Aug 2018 #24
Hear, hear. KPN Aug 2018 #59
I think a Dem wouldn't torpedo a rising spokesperson. lagomorph777 Aug 2018 #136
I agree. KPN Aug 2018 #137
Spokesperson for whom? ucrdem Aug 2018 #141
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Yes but whose? Bashing the ACA on CNN is not a core Democratic value ucrdem Aug 2018 #147
I'm guessing you refer to her promotion of Medicare For All as bashing the ACA. lagomorph777 Aug 2018 #148
Correct, ACA was a beginning not an end all. dae Aug 2018 #152
Bingo! nt Quixote1818 Aug 2018 #64
Dead on! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2018 #97
Well argued, EndGOPPropaganda! Thank you. berni_mccoy Aug 2018 #113
Thank you EndGOPPropaganda Aug 2018 #138
+1 leftstreet Aug 2018 #144
OK. So you don't like her. We got it. KPN Aug 2018 #58
This "fact checking" seems familiar... TiberiusB Aug 2018 #63
Yup the fact checkers were wrong and Mercatus exposed EndGOPPropaganda Sep 2018 #172
She should have the discretion to decline EffieBlack Aug 2018 #30
+ 1000 ehrnst Aug 2018 #101
Bingo, Effie. kstewart33 Aug 2018 #107
So you think the little lady should stay home & know her place womanofthehills Aug 2018 #159
Are you serious? EffieBlack Aug 2018 #161
I bet her district loves seeing her out there - proud of their own womanofthehills Aug 2018 #158
Nate Silver? The guy who is routinely dissed on DU? George II Aug 2018 #42
Yup. Even without Nate Silver/Matt Yglesias KPN Aug 2018 #57
At least she talks a good game. Claritie Pixie Aug 2018 #3
That would imply people believes the incorrect facts she is spewing. I don't think anyone does. stevenleser Aug 2018 #7
What? That claim was widely covered. EndGOPPropaganda Aug 2018 #12
She is making policy for the country. She should know better than to trust a third rate publication. stevenleser Aug 2018 #13
Well said stevenleser. Claritie Pixie Aug 2018 #16
This attitude is defeatist. EndGOPPropaganda Aug 2018 #18
Bullshit, we don't need people who don't know the facts to be speaking for us. THAT is defeatist stevenleser Aug 2018 #19
Anyone who parades around with non-democrats blue cat Aug 2018 #32
Thin skin won't cut it in Washington, DC George II Aug 2018 #43
actually they don't say it is a good thing dsc Aug 2018 #29
What circles you in? Probably not the one(s) KPN Aug 2018 #60
+1 Two jobs to make ends meet is hardly unknown EndGOPPropaganda Aug 2018 #139
"not knowing anyone who works two jobs" is almost a perfect illustration... redgreenandblue Aug 2018 #149
I know them too. Nm EndGOPPropaganda Aug 2018 #154
Wow! These kinds of misrepresentations can really backfire. She grew up in privilege. R B Garr Aug 2018 #151
This is a rightwing talking point EndGOPPropaganda Aug 2018 #155
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What you said is a rightwing talking point EndGOPPropaganda Aug 2018 #163
And LOL, your link is to her comment about Boston R B Garr Aug 2018 #157
No. Her mom scrubbed toilets EndGOPPropaganda Aug 2018 #164
It's not a "right wing talking point", nor was it debunked. George II Aug 2018 #169
For posterity: AOC was right, and fact checkers were wrong EndGOPPropaganda Sep 2018 #173
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And I think that is saying it about as nice as you can. stevenleser Aug 2018 #9
When holding feet to the fire is on the other foot. betsuni Aug 2018 #5
Yes, the double standard is glaring. Cha Aug 2018 #28
Yes. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #31
We had a Firewall Cha Aug 2018 #33
Yea, we did. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #34
I knooow.. we were such a Cha Aug 2018 #37
YES! We were. sheshe2 Aug 2018 #39
I wonder why her feet are not held to the fire? leftofcool Aug 2018 #79
This times 1000 JustAnotherGen Aug 2018 #96
K&R ! stonecutter357 Aug 2018 #8
This is Exactly why ismnotwasm Aug 2018 #14
One Hopes Me. Aug 2018 #20
Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate nt stevenleser Aug 2018 #25
All hope abandon, ye who enter, elleng Aug 2018 #27
Once upon a time, two well known individuals were elected to the senate question everything Aug 2018 #54
Nah, populist lies get swept under the rug. joshcryer Aug 2018 #61
""In a Koch brothers-funded study...it shows that Medicare for all is actually much more, is.. Cha Aug 2018 #26
That study did show savings overall for Medicare for All ... mr_lebowski Aug 2018 #84
The savings may also be a lie dansolo Aug 2018 #98
Point is many on our side have pointed out that the language in teh study suggests mr_lebowski Aug 2018 #121
Did you actually read the study? dansolo Aug 2018 #133
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That article is a fluff piece. It doesn't mention any of the issues brought up by the paper. dansolo Aug 2018 #145
I have an elegant solution. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2018 #35
Yes. She bashed Tammy Duckworth for pointing out that she doesn't speak for the midwest..... George II Aug 2018 #45
Tammy Duckworth knows damn well about constituants with her 2006 loss. joshcryer Aug 2018 #62
Exactly, and with the primary results in the midwest that we saw last week... George II Aug 2018 #117
Let me guess, you are not a supporter of AOC. Equinox Moon Aug 2018 #36
Not being a supporter is far different from "bashing". George II Aug 2018 #47
It sounds like bashing to me. vsrazdem Aug 2018 #56
Republicans should be holding AOC's feet to the fire, not fellow Dems. This reeks of sour grapes. TheBlackAdder Aug 2018 #38
+1 leftstreet Aug 2018 #46
Sour grapes? How so? George II Aug 2018 #48
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That doesn't answer my questions. But you're great at attempting to read my mind. George II Aug 2018 #52
Yup. n/t progressoid Aug 2018 #65
We have a winner! nt Quixote1818 Aug 2018 #67
This message was self-deleted by its author chwaliszewski Aug 2018 #49
Yet Democrats held Obama's feet to the fire ad nauseum. nt sheshe2 Aug 2018 #140
Fact checking surprise: only 5% hold 2 jobs? GusBob Aug 2018 #40
The curious thing is that when someone holds two jobs that person is "employed".... George II Aug 2018 #50
I believe the idea is comparing unemployment with underemployment. theaocp Aug 2018 #110
No, she was talking about reasons why the unemployment rate has dropped. George II Aug 2018 #111
No, she was talking about reasons why the unemployment rate has dropped. George II Aug 2018 #112
It's not meant to be taken as fact. It's meant to make a point about income inequality. Quixote1818 Aug 2018 #66
This message was self-deleted by its author George II Aug 2018 #41
What's concerning is she is using a Koch funded study to bolster her Democratic Socialist position. George II Aug 2018 #44
Its not concerning at all, and the numbers do show that it is a savings despite this Wapo nonsense. JCanete Aug 2018 #69
LOL, that's exactly the nonsense you just denied below. ucrdem Aug 2018 #77
Where have I contradicted myself? Place them side by side. What did I deny? JCanete Aug 2018 #78
You really should read through the entire report. George II Aug 2018 #114
You don't actually have to accept a reports findings to throw back the inconveneint JCanete Aug 2018 #130
That free funeral expense comment was frankly bizarre. R B Garr Aug 2018 #53
it may be the only way to get media coverage these days AlexSFCA Aug 2018 #55
That whole passage about Medicare for All and the Koch study sounds like total bullshit. JCanete Aug 2018 #68
Yes, it is total bullshit. That's the point. Using the Kochs to bash the ACA is disurbing. ucrdem Aug 2018 #70
She's pointing out that the Koch's hit job on Medicare for All JCanete Aug 2018 #71
No, that's not what she's pointing out. She's using the Kochs to sell medicare-for-all. ucrdem Aug 2018 #73
are you intentionally being obtuse? She literally says that their study isn't intended to JCanete Aug 2018 #74
Read the OP. nt ucrdem Aug 2018 #75
I did....what did I miss? JCanete Aug 2018 #76
this: "it shows that Medicare for all is actually much cheaper than the current system." ucrdem Aug 2018 #80
what the fuck? Are you serious? YOu think the Koch brothers are trying to bash the ACA by promoting JCanete Aug 2018 #81
The Kochs are out to kill the ACA, yes. She should NOT be helping them. nt ucrdem Aug 2018 #82
Again how on earth would promoting medicare for all help to kill the ACA. Lay out a scenario JCanete Aug 2018 #83
Hoo boy. ucrdem Aug 2018 #86
Americans have been conditioned for decades to hate taxes, of course. betsuni Aug 2018 #93
yeah, then we shoudn't buy into shitty wapo stories that continue to support that mythology. JCanete Aug 2018 #94
She's not trying to kill the ACA by pointing out that the Koch study shows mr_lebowski Aug 2018 #85
But the Kochs are, and she's helping them. ucrdem Aug 2018 #87
except that she's not. Except that this does not help them. That seems to be the part JCanete Aug 2018 #88
She's playing right into their hands. ucrdem Aug 2018 #89
but not teach me how this is doing that....okaaaay. but I could learn so much from you...right now. JCanete Aug 2018 #90
lmao... disillusioned73 Aug 2018 #125
She shouldn't be bashing the ACA. ucrdem Aug 2018 #72
AOC is lucky Jamaal510 Aug 2018 #91
100% agree. OnDoutside Aug 2018 #92
She needs some polishing SkyDancer Aug 2018 #95
uh oh. Be well, Steve Leser, You had a good run here at the DU!! m-lekktor Aug 2018 #99
He disrupted poorly RandiFan1290 Aug 2018 #100
I'll miss him. redgreenandblue Aug 2018 #104
But Bernie Sanders was on Fox. betsuni Aug 2018 #109
He will be unflagged by the end of the day Autumn Aug 2018 #116
And then he'll be here complaining about the injustice of it all... redgreenandblue Aug 2018 #118
And AOC. She was off on a couple of things. What Democrats hasn't? Autumn Aug 2018 #119
Indeed, what Democrat hasn't? TiberiusB Aug 2018 #124
What does.. disillusioned73 Aug 2018 #127
Jury driven. A poster is Flagged for Review automatically after 5 hides. Autumn Aug 2018 #128
Thanks disillusioned73 Aug 2018 #131
Jury driven after 5 hides. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2018 #129
Thanks disillusioned73 Aug 2018 #132
3 in this thread it appears. ucrdem Aug 2018 #142
And I think I prefer it that way. I'll take "people's justice" over "king's justice" any day. redgreenandblue Aug 2018 #150
This message was self-deleted by its author Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2018 #153
why are you campaigning against her? bigtree Aug 2018 #102
Here they are again? pwb Aug 2018 #105
The article didn't bash her like you did berni_mccoy Aug 2018 #103
I lulz'd KG Aug 2018 #106
BYE. SixString Aug 2018 #108
Washington Post... disillusioned73 Aug 2018 #115
DU rec!! Lol. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2018 #120
Oh my melman Aug 2018 #122
There is some nit picking going on here and Corporate Dems seem reluctant to accept AOC. theophilus Aug 2018 #123
Just Remember its hers to lose..... Historic NY Aug 2018 #126
Fact checking is a good thing and here the facts do not back AOC's claims Gothmog Aug 2018 #135
She's basically using RW talking points to bash the ACA. ucrdem Aug 2018 #143
Golly! Why ever would the world's richest man Nevernose Aug 2018 #160
Kick. Because I love this thread. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2018 #162
... redgreenandblue Aug 2018 #165
... Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2018 #167
That is so mean. redgreenandblue Aug 2018 #168
I'm a meanie. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2018 #171
That's the entire point. Her job is to move the Overton window Recursion Aug 2018 #166
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