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Thu Aug 9, 2012, 02:43 PM

82. Most of the states in the USA were never sovereign governments

They were creations of the United States, that were set up as states from territory the USA controlled, with the politics of the time determining their boundaries - hence North and South Dakota, created at the same time. And being unfair to some citizens because of history is not 'democracy'; it's conservatism - wanting to keep an old system, not on its merits, but because it's how it was set up by people you've never met.

People from different states often have different needs and different priorities

But why should that mean they get different power in electing a post for the whole country? The rules about vetoes are indeed a straw man (thanks for drawing attention to that), because they're not about the influence that different US citizens have in electing a nationwide leader.

In practice, the existing system means that swing states get all the attention in presidential contests, and huge parts of the country have no effective say in choosing the president. Even with your claim that different regions have different needs and priorities, I can't see how you think the current set-up benefits states that are a foregone conclusion.

Even if all the states decided to switch to proportional representation for dividing up their members of their delegations, you'd still have the problem of some people's vote being worth 3 times as much as others'.

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