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True, the good Mark Twain was often a sharp man, who had the vid of an expert.. And sadly to say, most americans have not a clue about either history or geography of other parts of the world... When I was in the US, many years ago, a old, nice woman, ask me, with deadly seriously, if we had the same problems with the vikings, as they had with their Negro's (she really did say that)... I was somewhat flabbergasted by it, but I managed to say that "No, our vikings are for the most part nice this days - my father was a Viking when he was younger, but he sharped up somehow over the years".. The old nice woman got close to a heart attack about that Revelations Sometimes it is fun to be just 15 and had a little bad stroke into life
Both General Giap of Vietnam and Marshall Zhukov of USSR was men who had brains and also smart enough to use it.. But both of them was also ruthless, and used soldiers as cannon fodder.. Marshall Zhukov is maybe most infamous for that - but he was also very respected both by his soldiers, and by the german enemies who know when Zhukov got into a theater, all hell was out..
It is told, that Stalin, after V day in 1945, wanted to trow Zhukov, and many of his officers to the lions, as part of making sure that no one from the generals could challenge Stalin from his power base.. But he could not dear to touch Zhukov, because he was to popular by the russian public.. Even when he was kind of demoted to the far east, where he was to keep and eye om the Nationalistic China, and after 1949, also for Communist China he was one of the most popular generals, and Marshall's of the Great Patriotic War as the second world war is called in Russia... And to his death Genaji Zhukov was one of the most popular public persons in the whole of Soviet Union. And also respected by the west for the effort he had being playing, to make sure Nazi-Germany was not to win the war..
My foster father, who had been in the USSR a year from 1944-45, as part of a liaison duty between the russian forces who was in Norway from 1944 to early 1945, to trow out the germans who was occupying that part of Norway (Finmark and Nord-Troms) was for some reason or another making friends with Marshall Zhukov, and from 1945, after the war, to somewhat into the 1950s, they was pen-pals of sorts... Even then, in the end it kind of stooped up, as the "sensor-police" on both sides of the cold war, kind of ruined all possibility of a meanings full writings... Marshall Zhukov was no warm and cuddly friends of Stalin to be sure.. He could play the game, but Zhukov and Stalin was never close and warm friends... Stalin was afraid of the popularity of Zhukov, and was rather paranoid on his old ages.... And the only reason Zhukov, in the famous picture from May 9th, is riding on a white Horse taken from one of the german Generals was becouse 1 Stalin was afraid of beeing attaced on the horse, 2 he was afraid of beeing trow off the horse, 3 he was kind of afraid off the horses...
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