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eleny

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19. Hartmann isn't asserting a crisis if the Constitution is followed
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 01:34 PM
Sep 2018

He's saying that we're in a crisis because it's not being followed. But I might be misunderstanding your point!

I didn't know that the Times had the Op-Ed five days ahead of it publication. The timing with the book is eye popping. Woodward surely wasn't concerned about sales. So there's something else afoot.

More on Hartmann's view. He's suspicious that it could have been written by Pence's speech writer. Pence has for decades believed that god wants him to be president. Pence has been steadily marching towards that "destiny". He rarely holds opinions contrary to Trump and when he does he's careful that they're made in such a way that Trump may never learn about them.

I suppose that it's as good a guess as any this early after the Op-Ed. But if we use the old "follow the money" rule, Pence being a handmaiden of the religious right and the billionaire class he's an obvious choice.

We're in for a world of hurt even without a single shot being fired so far.

Deepening State [View all] H2O Man Sep 2018 OP
Always an excellent read, H2O Man. When you bring up Hamlet, though... Hekate Sep 2018 #1
How big will the stage be, though. malthaussen Sep 2018 #2
Right! H2O Man Sep 2018 #7
I can't shake the notion that the Op-Ed is by Woodward eleny Sep 2018 #9
It was well-coordinated. H2O Man Sep 2018 #12
Regardless of who released the information the content is frightening eleny Sep 2018 #16
Very interesting. H2O Man Sep 2018 #18
Hartmann isn't asserting a crisis if the Constitution is followed eleny Sep 2018 #19
Right. H2O Man Sep 2018 #21
It's hard to believe there are still any "undecideds," malthaussen Sep 2018 #3
I am in awe of the intelligence and knowledge of this general forum and, of course, erronis Sep 2018 #5
Exactly. H2O Man Sep 2018 #10
"I view the group behind the NY Times op-ed..." ProfessorGAC Sep 2018 #22
This is a well done piece on journalism, imo. saidsimplesimon Sep 2018 #4
Ah, I can relate H2O Man Sep 2018 #11
Your OP turned out to be prescient coeur_de_lion Sep 2018 #6
Odd, that. H2O Man Sep 2018 #13
I'll bet you coeur_de_lion Sep 2018 #15
There are times H2O Man Sep 2018 #17
No way I agree with this paragraph: coeur_de_lion Sep 2018 #20
I'll say it again coeur_de_lion Sep 2018 #23
K&R smirkymonkey Sep 2018 #8
Thank you! H2O Man Sep 2018 #14
+++++ I'll be giving it a read this weekend. JHan Sep 2018 #24
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