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Really? (n/t) PJMcK Sep 2018 #1
Really. nt sheshe2 Sep 2018 #15
+1000 sheshe2 Sep 2018 #2
;) this also works: JHan Sep 2018 #12
Ha! sheshe2 Sep 2018 #13
Heh betsuni Sep 2018 #23
I don't know how I get up in the morning. Hortensis Sep 2018 #3
.. and somehow, some way , someone can justify making this horror the fault of Dems. JHan Sep 2018 #4
There's something wrong with them. Hortensis Sep 2018 #5
Oh so agree, Wellstone ruled Sep 2018 #6
"Why aren't the Dems.....?" mcar Sep 2018 #31
+++++++++ JHan Sep 2018 #32
+1 betsuni Sep 2018 #33
This is the worst part of it. joshcryer Sep 2018 #94
Or to fail to vote against just that? Hortensis Sep 2018 #96
It's not fair. Democrats get all the criticism and even when you prove the accusation false, betsuni Sep 2018 #7
These things are why I won't talk politics with people who parrot ismnotwasm Sep 2018 #8
George Lakoff has theorized it's gendered. JHan Sep 2018 #9
I was just thinking about that. betsuni Sep 2018 #10
In a nutshell. JHan Sep 2018 #11
And! sheshe2 Sep 2018 #14
That is really interesting ismnotwasm Sep 2018 #41
Yeah but even then, I'm not tempted to write off white women so easily.. JHan Sep 2018 #43
Oh I agree ismnotwasm Sep 2018 #48
Susan Sarandon is an entitled airhead, not "white feminism in human form." Screw that for a critique Hekate Sep 2018 #97
If Sarandon was "white feminism in human form" that would be ironic since she refuses to betsuni Sep 2018 #106
Taking some random Tweet about a twit and using it to slur all white women goes way too far Hekate Sep 2018 #107
Dems don't take the media and their owners to task in a meaninful consolidated way. We have ceded JCanete Sep 2018 #16
okay. JHan Sep 2018 #17
My point about Lieberman is that mainstream democrats helped to saddle us with him. The democratic JCanete Sep 2018 #18
Why didn't/don't Democrats stop (fill in the blank). betsuni Sep 2018 #19
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here. I vote for Dems. JCanete Sep 2018 #20
If you don't know that Republicans are the problem, I can't help you. betsuni Sep 2018 #22
How many different ways do I have to recognize that Republicans are a problem. But Republicans JCanete Sep 2018 #50
JCanete, as we all know, by far most people vote for Democratic Hortensis Sep 2018 #25
Oddly enough I see that sabotage from the other side...constantly going after liberals and their JCanete Sep 2018 #53
Some good points. But where are the half of all Americans Hortensis Sep 2018 #58
The problem is what the Democrats have done is to continue to pretend that the republicans are JCanete Sep 2018 #122
Always "they." It's us. "It's the vote, stupid." Hortensis Sep 2018 #123
Yeah....part of the argument is how do you make sure we get the vote. I have a feeling telling JCanete Sep 2018 #124
Apparently some of us could use another sign on the wall. Hortensis Sep 2018 #125
Lieberman is not a new phenomenon in politics. JHan Sep 2018 #26
Yes, all corporate donors are bad, because they aren't contributing out of any kind of altruistic JCanete Sep 2018 #55
okay JHan Sep 2018 #57
I'll just say its not a purity argument I'm making. Its one of strategy, and I think mainsteam JCanete Sep 2018 #59
okay, well we already agree Dems need to take back congress. JHan Sep 2018 #60
I know, right? OilemFirchen Sep 2018 #29
What about this one? JCanete Sep 2018 #56
What about it? OilemFirchen Sep 2018 #63
Our Revolution's decision to take untraceable money is absolutely a problem WhiteTara Sep 2018 #35
Is That Kin To Tax Returns That Remain Hidden? Me. Sep 2018 #37
Yes, it seems that democrats are the only ones with any honor WhiteTara Sep 2018 #38
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Me. Sep 2018 #40
um...you know that other organizations that support democrats do this right? The only reason JCanete Sep 2018 #54
What they are doing is so hypocritical that WhiteTara Sep 2018 #61
This. shanny Sep 2018 #39
how would the threat of a more liberal candidate treestar Sep 2018 #46
I think that really depends on what kind of impact such a candidate could have...whether JCanete Sep 2018 #52
I live in the real world where one does not rely on magic Gothmog Sep 2018 #65
Omygerd, you are an elite wealthy donor class person! betsuni Sep 2018 #73
My kids tease me about this but I know real members of the donor class Gothmog Sep 2018 #79
oops...my bad betsuni, thought this was posted to me and was confused. nt JCanete Sep 2018 #120
Are you kidding? Gothmog Sep 2018 #83
This, Gothmog Hekate Sep 2018 #102
oh, so your version of good media is at least covering the facts on Trump? That's the lowest JCanete Sep 2018 #119
The real world is a nice place even though magic does not work Gothmog Sep 2018 #129
Goth you're a broken record and you need new material. No, I don't propose that Sanders use magic JCanete Sep 2018 #131
So democrats are supposed to stamp their feet and wait for a magical voter revolution? Gothmog Sep 2018 #134
by the way, what's a "real" democrat? JCanete Sep 2018 #121
Are you being defensive? Gothmog Sep 2018 #130
That explanation falls flat. You were talking about electing 'real democrats', not about JCanete Sep 2018 #132
Any yet you complain that the press is not paying attention to sanders and his silly proposals Gothmog Sep 2018 #133
Most people are not ignoring his proposals. and the news walks a fine line. If it ignores for too JCanete Sep 2018 #136
Magic does not work in the real world Gothmog Sep 2018 #137
Change has happened to superdelegates, and I remember a certain poster posting a few threads JCanete Sep 2018 #141
The quid pro quo for the superdelegate rule is that sanders cannot run without joining party Gothmog Sep 2018 #143
I get that you're upset at corporate media.. JHan Sep 2018 #138
I disagree with you that it is bad to question reporting or motives. It is bad to do this in a JCanete Sep 2018 #140
I never, ever said that it's bad to question reporting. JHan Sep 2018 #142
Fair enough. And true, Fox and BBC are absolutely not the same. Fox isn't interested in maintaining JCanete Sep 2018 #144
So Democrats are to hold their breath and refused favorable media coverage? Gothmog Sep 2018 #139
Wonderful analysis JustAnotherGen Sep 2018 #21
Absolutely spot on! brer cat Sep 2018 #24
Im honestly not sure what the point of this is. TheFarseer Sep 2018 #27
My points were clear. JHan Sep 2018 #28
What are your criticisms of the Democratic Party? betsuni Sep 2018 #34
How DARE anyone defend Democrats and the Democratic party, eh? NurseJackie Sep 2018 #42
It's divisive to point out unfair attacks, Kafka couldn't make this up. JHan Sep 2018 #49
the particular criticisms were stated treestar Sep 2018 #45
It made no sense TheFarseer Sep 2018 #62
You're invested in blaming "the establishment" for the results of 2016 primaries.. JHan Sep 2018 #66
You honestly can't see the advantage TheFarseer Sep 2018 #67
I agreed with her critiques of his plans.. JHan Sep 2018 #68
+1 betsuni Sep 2018 #69
Magic does not work in the real world Gothmog Sep 2018 #71
Here goes TheFarseer Sep 2018 #80
Ah yes , of course we're back to... JHan Sep 2018 #81
Wow. We are having separate conversations TheFarseer Sep 2018 #84
Well I'm able to follow conversations well. JHan Sep 2018 #85
That link TheFarseer Sep 2018 #86
It is called math Gothmog Sep 2018 #89
forever a classic. JHan Sep 2018 #91
Clinton had a huge lead in pledged delegates going into California Gothmog Sep 2018 #92
When the words "rigged" and "primary" are anywhere near each other in a conversation: betsuni Sep 2018 #117
So funny! betsuni Sep 2018 #116
The selection process was effectively over after Super Tuesday Gothmog Sep 2018 #105
California is a very small part of the argument TheFarseer Sep 2018 #108
Try using facts and your words to explain your point Gothmog Sep 2018 #110
Texas had the Texas two step in 2008 Gothmog Sep 2018 #87
+++This JHan Sep 2018 #88
The system was not rigged Gothmog Sep 2018 #90
I'm going to declare victory TheFarseer Sep 2018 #109
If that helps you sleep during the night? JHan Sep 2018 #111
"I'm going to declare victory. ... There is no point talking to you any further." betsuni Sep 2018 #114
lol... JHan Sep 2018 #115
Have you made any "points"? Gothmog Sep 2018 #112
You are attacking the Democratic establishment for not believing in magic. Gothmog Sep 2018 #70
+1 betsuni Sep 2018 #72
Have fun in the real world TheFarseer Sep 2018 #76
Change works in the real world but it takes hard work Gothmog Sep 2018 #77
++++ JHan Sep 2018 #82
+1000 Power 2 the People Sep 2018 #104
If you disagree, then use facts to back up your claims Gothmog Sep 2018 #99
You obviously care deeply about my feelings TheFarseer Sep 2018 #118
LOL. Thank you for admitting that you have no facts backing up your claims Gothmog Sep 2018 #127
Oh, this is sad. betsuni Sep 2018 #128
But amusing Gothmog Sep 2018 #135
K&f'ing R! mcar Sep 2018 #30
kr Me. Sep 2018 #36
"Where are the Dems?" as if the media does not treestar Sep 2018 #44
Also division brings in profits. JHan Sep 2018 #47
Things wrong with Democrats: Cracklin Charlie Sep 2018 #51
I find these attacks on the Democratic Party amusing as does the OP Gothmog Sep 2018 #64
Trying to make change . . . peggysue2 Sep 2018 #74
Change takes hard work in the real world Gothmog Sep 2018 #78
Thank you! A much better encapsulation than the original post. Thekaspervote Sep 2018 #126
K&R Jamaal510 Sep 2018 #75
Amen Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2018 #93
Yep, Centrist has become a very blunt cudgel and could mean anything at anytime. JHan Sep 2018 #101
Yup. Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2018 #103
Recommended reading, JHan. Thanks. Hekate Sep 2018 #95
Honesty can be hurtful Separation Sep 2018 #98
Agreed Gothmog Sep 2018 #100
Like the FACT that HIllary is or was one of the most liberal Senators of all time Eliot Rosewater Sep 2018 #113
This is my favorite thread of 2018. Nicely done! NurseJackie Sep 2018 #145
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