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WhiskeyGrinder

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13. "Trump needs to shut the hell up because unlike his lying ass, Warren's stories may have some

Mon Oct 15, 2018, 04:43 PM

Oct 2018

validity."

This means nothing to him, and a white person conflating ethnicity, ancestry and DNA to confirm a nice family story does greater harm to Native Americans as a whole. It's an extremely white and colonizing perspective that just isn't helpful in a wider perspective and certainly won't change Trump's mind, or his supporters'. I feel like it's simply an "own the Repubs" flag that Democrats can wave, which centers political outcomes over humanitarian ones.

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"The real question is, does an Indigenous people claim anyone who claims to be one of us?" [View all] WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 OP

It means she has an ancestor who was Native American Takket Oct 2018 #1

Exactly matt819 Oct 2018 #7

Her percentage is less than the average American. former9thward Oct 2018 #26

not the point at all. I could care less if any tribal council makes claims on who can be beachbum bob Oct 2018 #2

No - the customs vary from group to group, tribe to tribe elfin Oct 2018 #3

Have you confirmed that percentages don't count in the tribe her grandmother belonged to? Ms. Toad Oct 2018 #5

I don't know at all if genetic data is specific as to nation via female elfin Oct 2018 #6

You seemed to be saying percentage matters - Ms. Toad Oct 2018 #10

I agree - it varies. Perhaps I wasn't clear elfin Oct 2018 #11

Not sure what the point of this exercise is... Thomas Hurt Oct 2018 #4

I don't think Warren's DNA test says one thing or another... LAS14 Oct 2018 #8

Millions of us have Native American ancestry rusty fender Oct 2018 #9

DNA tells us where our ancestors were from. Caliman73 Oct 2018 #12

"Trump needs to shut the hell up because unlike his lying ass, Warren's stories may have some WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #13

I have always been interested in the "Roanoke Colony" that was left behind by... kentuck Oct 2018 #14

The latest from Dr. TallBear: WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #18

Kim TallBear doesn't own all native american rusty fender Oct 2018 #28

What absolute bullshit. NanceGreggs Oct 2018 #33

Warren didn't make this an issue. Trump did. She fought back. Good for her. yardwork Oct 2018 #15

The problem is, due to the nature of the claim, resolving it becomes an issue that affects a lot WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #16

I think you're making too much of this. yardwork Oct 2018 #17

To what end? Is he convinced? Will he drop it? Will his supporters believe her? WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #19

Warren stood up to the bully. Period. yardwork Oct 2018 #23

WTF! rusty fender Oct 2018 #29

I honestly don't understand how it affects other people. Crunchy Frog Oct 2018 #20

I defer to Dr. Kim TallBear, who specializes in racial politics in science. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #21

I'll defer to actual genetic scientists. Crunchy Frog Oct 2018 #22

She says two things one which I agree with and one which I don't dsc Oct 2018 #24

She specifically said she did not claim to be a member of any tribe renate Oct 2018 #25

I have a grandfather who is 100% Cherokee lapfog_1 Oct 2018 #27

Warren is a white person. nt LexVegas Oct 2018 #30

I will never take one of those tests willingly. violetpastille Oct 2018 #31

Who said Democrats ... NanceGreggs Oct 2018 #32