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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
Wed Oct 17, 2018, 11:07 AM Oct 2018

A new study reveals the real reason Obama voters switched to Trump [View all]

“White voters with racially conservative or anti-immigrant attitudes switched votes to Trump at a higher rate than those with more liberal views on these issues,” the paper’s authors write. “We find little evidence that economic dislocation and marginality were significantly related to vote switching in 2016.”

This new paper fits with a sizeable slate of studies conducted over the past 18 months or so, most of which have come to the same conclusions: There is tremendous evidence that Trump voters were motivated by racial resentment (as well as hostile sexism), and very little evidence that economic stress had anything to do with it.
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“We find a much stronger association between symbolic racial and immigration attitudes and switching for Trump and Clinton than between economic marginality or local economic dislocation and vote switching,” Reny et al. write. “In fact, we find marginally small or no associations between any of our economic indicators and vote switching in either direction.”

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Now, Reny et al.’s statistical analysis can’t show all of this on its own. You should never draw conclusions this large from one statistical analysis, as it could suffer from any number of problems.

However, this analysis of the election is supported by a wide and deep body of research, the vast majority of which shows that concerns about identity and race were the decisive issues in the 2016 election. This was true in the Republican primary and the general; it’s also consistent with research on far-right parties in Europe whose xenophobic appeals are similar to Trump’s. There is a complete lack of statistical evidence, by contrast, for the “economic anxiety” theory.
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History suggests that significant changes in voting across party lines, particularly for the presidency, precede changes in party identities, the basis for realignments. This sequence of events played out during the Southern realignment (i.e., Democrats voting for GOP presidential candidates but maintaining their party attachment) and here we provide evidence that it may be happening again after two terms with a black president and during an era of mass demographic change due to immigration. Racial conservatives and those with the most punitive immigration views are moving right and were the most likely to switch to Trump in 2016. Our data suggest the same is happening in the opposite direction as those with racially liberal or pro-immigration views may be sorting into the Democratic Party.

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But it’s plausible, and there’s no use burying our heads in the sand by pretending this is about class when it isn’t.


https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/10/16/17980820/trump-obama-2016-race-racism-class-economy-2018-midterm

Direct link to study:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qphz9lxy6pxni1k/final_submission_reny_etal_poq_public.pdf?dl=0
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Because they're bigots. ismnotwasm Oct 2018 #1
Indeed. Dismissing racism and misogyny as "identity politics" is dead wrong. (nt) ehrnst Oct 2018 #4
Old white repubs DownriverDem Oct 2018 #15
What no one is measuring... DemocracyMouse Oct 2018 #51
So the bigots that voted for Obama switched to Trump? Doesn't that prompt you to ask... thesquanderer Oct 2018 #27
Voting for a black person doesn't mean someone's not a bigot. EffieBlack Oct 2018 #66
If they're bigots, why did they vote for Obama? Most voted twice for him. FakeNoose Oct 2018 #29
Bigotry doesn't preclude voting for someone of color. ismnotwasm Oct 2018 #34
Duh EffieBlack Oct 2018 #65
I think this was pretty clear. WeekiWater Oct 2018 #2
Anybody can see that Trump is only out to help white billionaires and hurt everybody else. lagomorph777 Oct 2018 #8
I'm glad there's finally a study about it JustAnotherGen Oct 2018 #3
There have been a lot of studies that confirm these same findings. Garrett78 Oct 2018 #19
eh - haven't seen them JustAnotherGen Oct 2018 #25
Here's an article from May of 2017 that I've posted before: Garrett78 Oct 2018 #63
Evidence was clear as day if you simply listened to his rally speak Bfd Oct 2018 #5
No amount of increased income for white men will change their racism/nationalism. (nt) ehrnst Oct 2018 #6
That is the truth, ehrnst. They could be dirt poor & living a squalid existance & they'd still Bfd Oct 2018 #9
Not surprising. trump was doing well in primaries until he started spewing hatred Hoyt Oct 2018 #7
Same as Reagan Democrats IMO. moondust Oct 2018 #10
Misogyny was also a huge factor in HRC's loss. Obama didn't face that. (eom) StevieM Oct 2018 #35
True. moondust Oct 2018 #43
I'm having trouble grasping this BigGermanGuy Oct 2018 #11
Agreed, it doesn't make sense..... Gregory Peccary Oct 2018 #14
exactly BigGermanGuy Oct 2018 #16
Read the article. It addresses this. Garrett78 Oct 2018 #18
how dare you assume BigGermanGuy Oct 2018 #21
(assume vs. presume) LanternWaste Oct 2018 #23
well you know what they say BigGermanGuy Oct 2018 #24
The article lays out the explanations. yardwork Oct 2018 #26
suppose it depends on your environment BigGermanGuy Oct 2018 #45
I suspect that those who switched are middle class suburban white voters. yardwork Oct 2018 #60
Yep. It was a battle of record high negative approval ratings among registered voters. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2018 #28
It was also a battle involving a candidate who was super popular just a few years earlier. StevieM Oct 2018 #36
"...voting for Obama once or even twice doesn't automatically... Kind of Blue Oct 2018 #31
Yes, apparently the racism increased as the Obama administration wore on. (nt) ehrnst Oct 2018 #39
In what way was getting more votes than any previous candidate but Obama ehrnst Oct 2018 #40
underperformed BigGermanGuy Oct 2018 #47
I think this research was sponsored by the University of No Shit?. LudwigPastorius Oct 2018 #12
I bet this was a tiny fraction of people Quixote1818 Oct 2018 #13
That's not entirely true. bearsfootball516 Oct 2018 #32
None of this would have mattered had it not been for Comey's repeated interference. (eom) StevieM Oct 2018 #37
we can't ignore that time BigGermanGuy Oct 2018 #48
That whole thing was given fuel by the never Hillary crowd on the left, Russia ehrnst Oct 2018 #56
oh they certainly fell to the propaganda BigGermanGuy Oct 2018 #68
In short DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2018 #17
Yep. Posted this yesterday. Garrett78 Oct 2018 #20
I'm sorry. I think the idea ... Whiskeytide Oct 2018 #22
I encourage you to read the article, based on data. yardwork Oct 2018 #30
I don't doubt that voters switched. But this article ignores the effect of Comey and the FBI StevieM Oct 2018 #42
I did read it. I just think ... Whiskeytide Oct 2018 #54
You may be underestimating the effect that misogyny played in the election. StevieM Oct 2018 #62
I agree 100%. That's why... Whiskeytide Oct 2018 #67
Reading the article might help to clarify things. (nt) ehrnst Oct 2018 #41
Repugism is a big tent - it includes white nationalists, Nazis, KKK, skinheads, militias & lark Oct 2018 #33
"Economic anxiety" was bullshit from the very beginning... SidDithers Oct 2018 #38
I bet only 5-10% Turin_C3PO Oct 2018 #49
I often cite studies from Dropbox... Act_of_Reparation Oct 2018 #44
The whitelash abided MrScorpio Oct 2018 #46
That's kind of what I suspected. Turin_C3PO Oct 2018 #50
'Accidentally' flipped by Russian hackers. triron Oct 2018 #52
But everyone kept telling me it was "economic anxieties?" Blue_Tires Oct 2018 #53
Well, yes. For White Straight men, there is no problem that can't be solved with more money. ehrnst Oct 2018 #58
K&R Scurrilous Oct 2018 #55
This same mindset is why we don't have stronger unions and other labor protections Yavin4 Oct 2018 #57
Really, does this matter one bit? Separation Oct 2018 #59
I don't believe many switched... Joe941 Oct 2018 #61
Anyone who listened to his rallies knew this. Dawson Leery Oct 2018 #64
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