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In reply to the discussion: Been using a new tact with Republicans. ie. Immigration. [View all]PatrickforO
(14,569 posts)I have conversations like this with people. Of those three blue collar guys, maybe one will change his vote this time around, maybe not.
But all of them will think, and once you know, there's no going back. They will start to spot hypocrisy, and maybe then either give up voting altogether in disgust, or perhaps become Democrats.
Oh, and one last thing - just thought I'd mention this. Polls I've seen show only 26-28% of millennials plan to vote. You know why? Most don't feel either Republicans or Dems will do anything for them. I've had many, many conversations with millennials - we all know their problems - high student loan debt, being priced out of housing markets, low paying jobs and other things have made it real hard for this whole generation to get on its feet.
Right now, the Republicans are SO BAD that the Dems look like peaches and cream, but when we get in power, we'd better do some stuff to take care of our children and grandchildren, you know? Like Warren has introduced the Responsible Capitalism Act, which simply expands the fiduciary responsibility of CEOs in publicly held companies beyond shareholder earnings to encompass worker and consumer welfare, and environmental impact. Stuff like that will solve so many problems.
But we're going to, within the next decade, have to re-think our whole social and economic organization. I mean, think about it - the real elephant in this room is the national debt. No one really is talking about it. A few tea party people tried a few years ago, but they were co-opted by the Kochs and most of them were kind of dumb anyway.
The bankers love it, though, because they've created a society of scarcity where more and more money is being routed into fewer and fewer hands at our expense, and they get to skim off the top of everything.
Unfortunately, that isn't sustainable. It's going to fall like a giant house of cards.
No bankers want us to go there, and there will be those on this site who disagree with me, but we are going to have to eventually repeal the Federal Reserve Act, and begin coining our own money, as it says in Article 1, Section 8 of the US Constitution. Like Lincoln did with the greenbacks during the Civil War.
We need to think differently - you pull a dollar out of your pocket and realize it is only a dollar because we all agree that is so. This is called fiat currency. Nothing backing it except the full faith and credit of the United States. So, if OUR faith and credit is backing these dollars, and if the national debt is money we owe to ourselves, then why are we paying it back with interest to bankers and foreign investors? We could get rid of that whole problem by coining our own money.
Of course, some say that Executive Order 11110, issued by JFK on June 3, 1963 is actually one of the things that got him killed. Whether or not that is true, the bankers will fight back hard. They will.
In fact, when I bring this up, some accuse me of wearing a tinfoil hat, and tell me that if we start coining our own money, we will have horrible inflation. That isn't really true, though. People who say that tend to have an interest in banking and in the banking system.
Public banking may be in large part, a solution for us. That, and Warren's 'Responsible Capitalism Act.'