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RHMerriman

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48. And if that's your case, then I can only say:
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 01:12 AM
Oct 2018

Lack of foundation, counselor.

One can go by the lessons or history in THIS country, or one can imagine all sorts of fiction based on what's happened elsewhere... I prefer facts in evidence, and given I lived through Watergate, it seems somewhat more on point than the Ides of March, much less what's happened in a bunch of developing countries with no significant tradition of democratic self-governance.

As far as Nixon goes, his approval ratings were at 48 percent the month before the hearings began; Trump's are at 38 percent today, without the results of the Mueller investigation or the mid-terms, much less serious hearings. As far as your questions go:

1) SCOTUS. Yes, the Court will enforce a subpeona, even with Kavanaugh. None of them will go down with Trump's ship, from simple self-interest, if nothing else.
2) Will Congress enfore? Yes, same reason as above.
3) If the House impeaches, will the Senate move to remove him? Yes. Self-interest trumps all.
4) If Trump orders his followers to commit violence, they will laugh at him and change the channel. These yahoos are not the SS; hell, they're not even the Klan. On their "best" worst day, they are the Branch Davidians, maybe the Order or SLA. Any that cross the line will be met with deadly force, and they will die quickly.
5) Will Republicans hold him to account? Yes, for the same reason Goldwater, Rhodes et al told Nixon to scram.
6) Will any Democrat be in a position to do so? Yes.

Here's some evidence; perhaps you should consider it:

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AGREED. Lay them out BARE. nt UniteFightBack Oct 2018 #1
I will wait and see what develops. olegramps Oct 2018 #21
Welcome to DU, UniteFightBack! calimary Oct 2018 #59
I'll have what you're having. dchill Oct 2018 #2
What leads you to believe that Congress will even see "The Mueller Report"? irresistable Oct 2018 #3
I also hope... jcgoldie Oct 2018 #4
They can't! Scarsdale Oct 2018 #27
Many top Russiapublicans will have starring roles in the Mueller report. lagomorph777 Oct 2018 #57
I really hope you are right. But they sure are champions at denying, dismissing and looking away. Squinch Oct 2018 #5
I think that immediately Trump, McConnell and Ryan will attack Mueller and the report. NCjack Oct 2018 #6
If the report is general in nature and SayItLoud Oct 2018 #19
I can hear it now: Roadside Attraction Oct 2018 #32
Great pic ..lol :) wroberts189 Oct 2018 #38
Arrested Devolvement!!! k8conant Oct 2018 #51
Just watch them. DFW Oct 2018 #7
Sadly, many here at DU feel A Democractic Congress should not do its duty and impeach... Fiendish Thingy Oct 2018 #8
As soon as we take control of the house, Mr.Bill Oct 2018 #11
Until one of Congress people can stand on the floor and declare: ChazInAz Oct 2018 #17
Fingers crossed!! NurseJackie Oct 2018 #9
I look forward to seeing how many of them will be named in it, as well. GoCubsGo Oct 2018 #10
Join my name to the list of those who hope fervently that you are right. PatrickforO Oct 2018 #12
And yet, the GOP will ignore it. They are now the The Enemy of the People bitterross Oct 2018 #13
It'd better be video or other viral-compatible form, bc many people won't read longform narrative.nt FreepFryer Oct 2018 #14
As they say, "Your lips to God's ears!" pdsimdars Oct 2018 #15
It will be the tip of the iceberg bucolic_frolic Oct 2018 #16
In other words, Democrats need to "make nice". not_the_one Oct 2018 #23
That's not what I said bucolic_frolic Oct 2018 #24
I understood what you were saying, not_the_one Oct 2018 #30
We are indeed on the precipice, but backing away is not so simple marylandblue Oct 2018 #33
First thing we have to do is VOTE. SayItLoud Oct 2018 #18
I 🙏 you are right Chicagogrl1 Oct 2018 #20
That's what I tell myself too when I need to sleep. Jakes Progress Oct 2018 #22
You mean the long arm of the law is going to prevail? czarjak Oct 2018 #25
Clearly, you haven't been paying attention.... getagrip_already Oct 2018 #26
I do not share your confidence Thunderbeast Oct 2018 #28
I'm not convinced the Mueller Report will be what we think it will be. Or that we'll see it. Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #29
I expect so as well... RHMerriman Oct 2018 #31
This isn't Watergate, there is no American precedent for this marylandblue Oct 2018 #35
Agree this election is so important, but: RHMerriman Oct 2018 #36
You should read "How Democracies Die." marylandblue Oct 2018 #39
With all due respect, none of the democracies that Levitsky and Ziblatt cite are remotely comparable RHMerriman Oct 2018 #40
You take a very narrow view of history marylandblue Oct 2018 #43
Old and creaky, by definition, means it has survived. RHMerriman Oct 2018 #44
The Roman Republic survived 500 years but it got old and creaky too marylandblue Oct 2018 #45
None of which has anything to do with the case Levitsky and Ziblatt try and make, but RHMerriman Oct 2018 #46
It has to with my case, that this isn't Watergate and it isn't the Civil War marylandblue Oct 2018 #47
And if that's your case, then I can only say: RHMerriman Oct 2018 #48
If we dont take the house then the GOP will just bury the report. lancelyons Oct 2018 #34
Lock him up !! :) n/t wroberts189 Oct 2018 #37
I suspect that you overestimate the Bettie Oct 2018 #41
Doubtful, unless Republicans suddenly develop a conscience and a healthy sense of shame. VOX Oct 2018 #42
We just have to hope the Dems take back the House. calimary Oct 2018 #49
Kick ck4829 Oct 2018 #50
republicans in congress can ALWAYS deny, dismiss. look away....been doing it for 100 years beachbum bob Oct 2018 #52
IOW: You bought him, you own him. no_hypocrisy Oct 2018 #53
The Rethugs will look for a way to bury the report. nt avebury Oct 2018 #54
That is, IF we are privileged enough to even see, hear, or read the results. Firestorm49 Oct 2018 #55
Well, we all have to keep in mind that it is only a report Catherine Vincent Oct 2018 #56
Good luck with that.... pangaia Oct 2018 #58
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