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In reply to the discussion: Make them unacceptable. [View all]

Johnny2X2X

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29. How can we come together?
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 10:03 AM
Oct 2018

I am more disheartened than ever about the divisions in this country. I have made some attempts to reach out to the other side and the window into their reality is just devastating.

Specifically I work with some far right wing guys. 2 of which I went to lunch with on Friday. Really good family men and overall good people with good hearts. They are totally brain washed. And I will defend each of their characters. These are both smart and good people. Both are Aerospace Engineers, both have served in the military, both are very respected colleagues and experts in their field. Both are capable of critical thinking. But both showed me they are so angry that it's nearly impossible to reach them. It's victim hood, in their world they have been brainwashed for 30 years into thinking that white Christian men are the victims and the deck is stacked against them.

They will not respond to reason, it's emotion for them, but they are sure they are being reasonable and logical. I'll keep trying, but it's not going to get anywhere. They have alternative facts for every possible topic.

Make them unacceptable. [View all] LuckyCharms Oct 2018 OP
Excellent- I could not agree more! Tumbulu Oct 2018 #1
This is the opposite of what we should do oberliner Oct 2018 #2
Good luck with that. LuckyCharms Oct 2018 #3
I've reached a handful of folks that way oberliner Oct 2018 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Cirque du So-What Oct 2018 #5
"Disagreement" is what you have over the color of blinds or what movie your group should see ck4829 Oct 2018 #8
Some of the worst white supremacists, neo-nazis, and hate mongers have changed and repented oberliner Oct 2018 #11
Maybe I will get to see some of them too? watoos Oct 2018 #14
A Former Neo-Nazi Explains Why Hate Drew Him In -- And How He Got Out oberliner Oct 2018 #15
While yet others shoot up synagogues. LanternWaste Oct 2018 #41
Exactly oberliner Oct 2018 #43
You can be kind and still make what they do unacceptable at the same time uponit7771 Oct 2018 #22
Many of us are not good at confrontation and.... KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2018 #25
And it's also a spectrum... ck4829 Oct 2018 #28
Yes, I can engage them in a calm, rational discussion but.... KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2018 #32
I was raised by racists, I know racists. ismnotwasm Oct 2018 #31
+++ brer cat Oct 2018 #33
I remember when the new indoor smoking laws were being initiated Ohioboy Oct 2018 #4
I absolutely agree! jcmaine72 Oct 2018 #6
Exactly. And the smoking example is a good one. We became pariahs Squinch Oct 2018 #7
K&R ck4829 Oct 2018 #9
Where I live, they already are like cig smokers. violetpastille Oct 2018 #12
Second hand smoke is deadly lunatica Oct 2018 #21
Excellent post, I could not agree more. watoos Oct 2018 #13
Asked...."if they agreed with Trump giving soybean farmers billions of dollars in subsidies", KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2018 #27
Nazi recruitment on college campuses with a congregation of young men... magicarpet Oct 2018 #16
I live in a semi red area and I like to safeinOhio Oct 2018 #17
Yes Yes Yes watoos Oct 2018 #20
A few more safeinOhio Oct 2018 #30
I absolutely agree with your post. llmart Oct 2018 #18
Expose them for identification. dalton99a Oct 2018 #19
As a former smoker LittleGirl Oct 2018 #23
Second hand Trumpsky Harker Oct 2018 #24
YAS!!!! Shame and ridicule. Baltimike Oct 2018 #26
How can we come together? Johnny2X2X Oct 2018 #29
I think you have asked the million dollar question. KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2018 #34
Hmmm... flotsam Oct 2018 #35
Apples and oranges. We're not talking about people stricken with the disease of addiction. jcmaine72 Oct 2018 #36
The post outright states flotsam Oct 2018 #37
I didn't say that I believe smokers are the dregs of humanity. LuckyCharms Oct 2018 #38
I like most your posts flotsam Oct 2018 #39
Ok, thank you. I have no problem with smokers now, and LuckyCharms Oct 2018 #42
What are you talking about? That has nothing to do with anything that Squinch Oct 2018 #44
Remember when Geo. Wallace voters were mocked? Duppers Oct 2018 #40
Actually, we just need to get the political power back, and then ban all opposition parties. nt MadDAsHell Oct 2018 #45
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