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47. It seems that voter suppression pre-election has been ramped up more than ever because the

Fri Nov 2, 2018, 06:36 PM

Nov 2018

non-transparent computerized voting is most ripe for rigging elections when the odds are within the margin of error -- then with algorithms, rethugs can steal a few votes here and there from various precincts to get the desired results. I understand Michael Moore's pessimism -- we still have proprietary DREs, optiscans, centralized tabulators in all 50 states. It appears that voters are turning out in large numbers, so hopefully this will help overcome the rethug strategy of tweaking the results with the machines. We have an extreme problem with corrupt elections officials and vendors and a weakness in our system of government that allows them to operate with almost no accountability.

It's the huge turnout that is making me feel optimistic, but all voter suppression tactics need to be stamped out and elections officials held responsible for their ongoing corrupt practices.

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Michael Moore Blasts Nancy Pelosi For Declaring Dems Will 'Win' Midterms: 'That's What Happened... [View all] DonViejo Nov 2018 OP

I personally do not want to hear from non voters Watchfoxheadexplodes Nov 2018 #1

Me neither, but obviously Moore feels a need for attention. Hortensis Nov 2018 #29

Quite Me. Nov 2018 #60

He does vote, he voted absentee ballot. Autumn Nov 2018 #79

I didn't check that statement. But I DID listen to Hortensis Nov 2018 #82

I saw that too, and I had to turn it off NastyRiffraff Nov 2018 #122

Me neither. Anyone who can't see what is at stake with this admin, IMO is too stupid to vote. politicaljunkie41910 Nov 2018 #59

He has a point. Don't count your chickens before they hatch. sinkingfeeling Nov 2018 #2

If she had NOT declared that Democrats will win NewJeffCT Nov 2018 #3

+1 Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #27

I doubt Moore would have, since he's been pretty consistent on this. But I'm sure others would have. fishwax Nov 2018 #34

I agree he has JonLP24 Nov 2018 #114

+1 treestar Nov 2018 #87

He doesn't have a point in ignoring Comey and Putin, he's done that too many times and that's his uponit7771 Nov 2018 #15

He loves to bash Dems, even in his latest movie. That's his thing. brush Nov 2018 #35

Michael Moore is a complete dumbass who loves the sound of his own voice. PubliusEnigma Nov 2018 #4

Oh god violetpastille Nov 2018 #105

+1 WA-03 Democrat Nov 2018 #117

Michael; how could you? nt zanana1 Nov 2018 #5

I really don't care qazplm135 Nov 2018 #6

Democrats shouldn't be ashamed just cos 2016 is a thing. They did win the popular vote though. OnDoutside Nov 2018 #7

Michael Moore trashing democrats again what a surprise jcgoldie Nov 2018 #8

Given two prediction options Zambero Nov 2018 #9

I didnt take anything for granted in 2016 either Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #30

Now you're talking. Agree 100%. brush Nov 2018 #37

+1 Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #38

The ones that didn't bother to vote at all Zambero Nov 2018 #49

Every person I know who always votes...VOTED in 2016. Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #50

I know plenty who stayed away (or worse) Zambero Nov 2018 #66

Ok. I appreciate you have a point of view. Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #68

Yup Separation Nov 2018 #71

Around here. We were happy as hell about Hillary. Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #90

This message was self-deleted by its author betsuni Nov 2018 #55

I know. The voter suppression in 2016 did the trick. LisaM Nov 2018 #61

+1 Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #62

Why do you assume you are lumped in? treestar Nov 2018 #88

Bc Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #92

The correct answer is yes and yes again Zambero Nov 2018 #94

Ok...Am I free to go now? Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #104

Ya Youbetcha! Zambero Nov 2018 #118

Comey and Putin happened in 2016 JI7 Nov 2018 #10

Given Comey, Putin, and voter suppression... Zambero Nov 2018 #54

I really do not care what Moore thinks on anything Gothmog Nov 2018 #11

And if she had shown concern leftynyc Nov 2018 #12

+1 Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #32

Micheal Moore is wandering off into dimwitted Susan Sarandon territory Tarc Nov 2018 #13

Is He Even A DEm Anymore? Me. Nov 2018 #63

Moore does ... NOT ... believe Russia help Benedict Donald uponit7771 Nov 2018 #14

I guess I don't either, in that I blame people who believed Russian and GOPer lies and Hoyt Nov 2018 #78

Bigotry is not changing one's mindset in the face of reality uponit7771 Nov 2018 #80

Er, tRump is predicting a red wave, but for some reason, that's different, right Michael? stopbush Nov 2018 #16

He's right. She's one of those people that actually fires uo Republican voters Thrill Nov 2018 #17

Trump...didn't....win!!!! edhopper Nov 2018 #18

Hey, Michael Moore... you know what? FUCK YOU! Shut the fuck up! NurseJackie Nov 2018 #19

100% This. oasis Nov 2018 #24

Amen! justhanginon Nov 2018 #107

He's dying for another loss. joshcryer Nov 2018 #20

Old man yelling "get off my lawn" nt OBrien Nov 2018 #21

FO Michael Moore workinclasszero Nov 2018 #22

This place is so weird sometimes Blecht Nov 2018 #23

Is it blind hatred or a collective response of, "you're not helping"? Some acts get old. FSogol Nov 2018 #26

Not true. Research him. He was a Naderite and has bashed Dems quite often. brush Nov 2018 #39

He sure did. In 2000 at Madison Square Garden he said a vote for Gore was a vote for bush still_one Nov 2018 #42

I have the greatest level of contempt and disgust for chronic Dem-bashers. NurseJackie Nov 2018 #43

With you all the way. brush Nov 2018 #44

Nader was 18 years ago -- we've all learned a lot since then Blecht Nov 2018 #45

IMO he comes off as being concerned but profits from being a scold and a "I told you so"... brush Nov 2018 #69

"That's it, Mr. Obama. 100 years from now: 'He was the first black American that got elected JI7 Nov 2018 #84

Ugh betsuni Nov 2018 #85

Aw. NurseJackie Nov 2018 #40

You don't know what you're talking about.. Cha Nov 2018 #56

Is He A Dem? Me. Nov 2018 #64

Michael Moore was a Susan Sarandon "purist asses" Naderite Cha Nov 2018 #70

Nailed It Me. Nov 2018 #72

If you must call it hatred, it's hardly blind treestar Nov 2018 #89

Michael "Pay Attention to Meeeeeee" Moore is attacking Democrats again? Color me "not surprised." FSogol Nov 2018 #25

Stop saying we're going to win. GOTV like your life depends on it. Oneironaut Nov 2018 #28

If Michael Moore put forth effort to ELECT DEMOCRATS maybe 2016 would have been different beachbum bob Nov 2018 #31

I'll always love Michael Moore Downtown Hound Nov 2018 #33

I don't care for Moore but I do think it is dangerous to declare that you will win.. helpisontheway Nov 2018 #36

And that's the point... defacto7 Nov 2018 #106

yeah Moore, its better to do your bullshit and spew how we are going to lose, and how bad the still_one Nov 2018 #41

RF also said to "..embrace trump.." "blah blah blah.." Cha Nov 2018 #52

Wow, thanks Cha. More unhinged than I thought still_one Nov 2018 #57

Yeah, it pays to know those pesky Cha Nov 2018 #65

I didn't know that.. defacto7 Nov 2018 #110

So sick of MM budkin Nov 2018 #46

It seems that voter suppression pre-election has been ramped up more than ever because the diva77 Nov 2018 #47

I don't believe there are people who are registered to vote, who usually vote, who plan to vote, betsuni Nov 2018 #48

FUCK OFF, moore.. you also said to "embrace trump".. Cha Nov 2018 #51

I'm so over him. Please go away, Michael EffieBlack Nov 2018 #53

Michael Moore makes good points even if KPN Nov 2018 #58

I like Pelosi but that was stupid redstateblues Nov 2018 #67

That was hardly a "blast" and he's right... SMC22307 Nov 2018 #73

She made it clear at the end that "Dems will win IF they go and vote." What she should have said: LBM20 Nov 2018 #74

Michael... the biggest debbie downer of them all! Thekaspervote Nov 2018 #75

He doesn't understand Nancy Pelosi's job very well. Thank God she is doing it and not him. Squinch Nov 2018 #76

Michael Moore can STFU and go home if he doesn't have something nice to say about Democrats YessirAtsaFact Nov 2018 #77

Well, let's see. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2018 #81

I agree n/t defacto7 Nov 2018 #111

Once again mm getting trashed here for being honest dembotoz Nov 2018 #83

Why is it bad for us to be optimistic and OK for Republicans? treestar Nov 2018 #86

+1 betsuni Nov 2018 #93

They are not saying that now. defacto7 Nov 2018 #112

He is right - we should not be predicting big wins - all that does is give voters reason DrDan Nov 2018 #91

Did you see the Pelosi interview he was referring to? jcgoldie Nov 2018 #95

I find it interesting that one person can DrDan Nov 2018 #96

I don't despise Michael Moore and I appreciate some of his movies... jcgoldie Nov 2018 #98

Sure sounds like you despise him - not unlike the other side DrDan Nov 2018 #100

sure sounds like you are making excuses for a guy who spends most of his time attacking democrats jcgoldie Nov 2018 #102

No excuses - just agree with him ro hold down the rhetoric DrDan Nov 2018 #120

hate... right jcgoldie Nov 2018 #121

Overconfidence would be very low on my list of reasons for what happened in 2016. Garrett78 Nov 2018 #97

Good point, but it does happen a lot. defacto7 Nov 2018 #115

Michael Moore is not worth listening to. LiberalFighter Nov 2018 #99

Claiming it's in the bag *does* discourage voting. Beartracks Nov 2018 #101

I agree n/t defacto7 Nov 2018 #116

Michael Moore.... workinclasszero Nov 2018 #103

Moore, Sanders, et al, had very important choices to prioritize. empedocles Nov 2018 #108

I regret buying tickets for the latest Moore movie. empedocles Nov 2018 #109

There were people that actually stayed home because they though Clinton would win JonLP24 Nov 2018 #113

Why must he always insist on pulling shit like this before an election? jcmaine72 Nov 2018 #119

and ego, and self justification empedocles Nov 2018 #123