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Awsi Dooger

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3. None of those states had changed in ideological terms
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 06:55 AM
Nov 2018

Every one had a gap of 9% or less in exit poll depiction of self-identified conservatives and liberals. That is a blue state by definition. Until 2016, I had never seen a state at 9% or less in that category vote Republican.

It was a short term blip and caused primarily by neglect and poor messaging and an unpopular candidate. I wasn't worried about them.

However, that can't be said about Ohio, which suddenly went to 39% conservatives and only 20% liberals in 2016. That state is essentially gone, at least in the short term, especially since it is 80% white. Nobody should be surprised at tonight's governorship outcome in Ohio.

Iowa is even more white at 90% but also troubling in the 2016 exit poll at 40% conservatives and 23% liberals. At least that 23% liberals indicates a pulse and not abandonment. The national number in 2016 was 36% conservatives and 27% liberals.

YES IT IS.. I've been thinking Cha Nov 2018 #1
That is good news leftynyc Nov 2018 #2
None of those states had changed in ideological terms Awsi Dooger Nov 2018 #3
i think a lot of educated liberal leaning types left ohio when the economy went down JI7 Nov 2018 #5
That may be true. However, if WI "hadn't changed"... regnaD kciN Nov 2018 #6
The voting systems need to Scarsdale Nov 2018 #12
People moved for jobs IronLionZion Nov 2018 #9
Neglect is right, the popular candidate didn't bother to set foot in them. joshcryer Nov 2018 #13
so called blue wall states were turning red way before 2016. delisen Nov 2018 #30
So happy Gov. Wolf won bigly! Freddie Nov 2018 #4
Wolf May Actually Be RobinA Nov 2018 #21
Yes but they must now work hard to get shit done, to keep that regained trust. OnDoutside Nov 2018 #7
+1 Winters Coming for the president. MI did a great job. Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #8
Trump didn't demolish the blue wall in those states. GoCubsGo Nov 2018 #10
That Said, RobinA Nov 2018 #23
Michigan was expected MichMan Nov 2018 #11
Pennsylvania was expected watoos Nov 2018 #14
Which has nothing to do with statewide elected offices MichMan Nov 2018 #18
Not directly but yes indirectly it does. MrGrieves Nov 2018 #26
But we also won AG & SOS. Plus, I'm happily surprised about my district, MI-08 & MI-11 catbyte Nov 2018 #28
This DetroitLegalBeagle Nov 2018 #29
excellent Demovictory9 Nov 2018 #15
And in Michigan... N_E_1 for Tennis Nov 2018 #16
I see the WI and MI flips most important. 2naSalit Nov 2018 #17
These articles ignore the fact that those 3 states only "flipped" in 2016 by a TOTAL 78,000 votes BumRushDaShow Nov 2018 #19
There's A Lot RobinA Nov 2018 #25
Damn right! workinclasszero Nov 2018 #20
Yes, I saw this and I came to the following conclusions The Liberal Lion Nov 2018 #22
New York also solidified the "blue wall" last night DinahMoeHum Nov 2018 #24
This and taking the House means it was a great night for dems realmirage Nov 2018 #27
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