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delisen

(6,036 posts)
30. so called blue wall states were turning red way before 2016.
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 10:28 AM
Nov 2018


Scott Walker was trying for his THIRD term this year. Private sector enabled Walker and were willing participants in going after public sector unions. Walker could not have done the damage he did without them.

The false narrative about 2016 and the "unpopular" candidate serves some agenda but it is essentially false and serves to kick sand in our faces when we need to focus clearly.

For 8-10 years prior to 2016 Dems fiddled while party fell apart and Republicans pushed through massive voter suppression. Voting machine irregularities, voter counting irregularities? That stated in 2000-so its taken almost 1 years for us to get a handle on it. Massive fake news and Russia interference? Too many not wanting to believe what was really happening in 2016.

The Republic party spent a decade building in state legislatures in secretary of states offices, and democrats focused on the savior model of politics-come out and rev up excitement to vote for a "charismatic" presidential candidate every four years.

Was John Kerry an unpopular candidate? He lost. Al Gore. He lost--both lost when the Democratic party was much stronger that it was in 2016-at which point it had become a shadow of its former self.

Way back, women were the backbone of the party. The unsung and unacknowledged workers who kept things going while the "menfolk"soaked up the spotlight running for office. Remember the "boiler room girls" of the Kennedy campaign. What happened ???? Like those black-robed nuns of yore they fought for opportunity for themselves and got paid employment and now they are moving into the spotlight.

I and my family cannot afford to indulge in false narratives.






YES IT IS.. I've been thinking Cha Nov 2018 #1
That is good news leftynyc Nov 2018 #2
None of those states had changed in ideological terms Awsi Dooger Nov 2018 #3
i think a lot of educated liberal leaning types left ohio when the economy went down JI7 Nov 2018 #5
That may be true. However, if WI "hadn't changed"... regnaD kciN Nov 2018 #6
The voting systems need to Scarsdale Nov 2018 #12
People moved for jobs IronLionZion Nov 2018 #9
Neglect is right, the popular candidate didn't bother to set foot in them. joshcryer Nov 2018 #13
so called blue wall states were turning red way before 2016. delisen Nov 2018 #30
So happy Gov. Wolf won bigly! Freddie Nov 2018 #4
Wolf May Actually Be RobinA Nov 2018 #21
Yes but they must now work hard to get shit done, to keep that regained trust. OnDoutside Nov 2018 #7
+1 Winters Coming for the president. MI did a great job. Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #8
Trump didn't demolish the blue wall in those states. GoCubsGo Nov 2018 #10
That Said, RobinA Nov 2018 #23
Michigan was expected MichMan Nov 2018 #11
Pennsylvania was expected watoos Nov 2018 #14
Which has nothing to do with statewide elected offices MichMan Nov 2018 #18
Not directly but yes indirectly it does. MrGrieves Nov 2018 #26
But we also won AG & SOS. Plus, I'm happily surprised about my district, MI-08 & MI-11 catbyte Nov 2018 #28
This DetroitLegalBeagle Nov 2018 #29
excellent Demovictory9 Nov 2018 #15
And in Michigan... N_E_1 for Tennis Nov 2018 #16
I see the WI and MI flips most important. 2naSalit Nov 2018 #17
These articles ignore the fact that those 3 states only "flipped" in 2016 by a TOTAL 78,000 votes BumRushDaShow Nov 2018 #19
There's A Lot RobinA Nov 2018 #25
Damn right! workinclasszero Nov 2018 #20
Yes, I saw this and I came to the following conclusions The Liberal Lion Nov 2018 #22
New York also solidified the "blue wall" last night DinahMoeHum Nov 2018 #24
This and taking the House means it was a great night for dems realmirage Nov 2018 #27
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