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Baconator

(1,459 posts)
141. Harry overstayed his welcome as well...
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 02:31 PM
Nov 2018

I'm not even suggesting that she should just leave.

She needs to stay and pass on all of her experience and networks to someone from the new generation.

They are not one but TWO generations behind where the leadership should be. American youth are the future of the party and it's time to recognize it even if it comes at a personal power cost.

Pelosi needs to pass the torch [View all] Baconator Nov 2018 OP
Who would be strong enough to replace her...Maxine Waters, now that would be hilarious. sunonmars Nov 2018 #1
Couldn't agree more. rocktivity Nov 2018 #2
Can I just say that progressive minded people did not win last night as much as centrist in red Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #57
Ahhh. Here it is. "appeal to progressive-minded and the young. " Bfd Nov 2018 #114
ABSOLUTELY NOT. That would be an idiotic mistake. This isn't about sex appeal or rebranding. pnwmom Nov 2018 #228
Now is not the time to "pass the torch" to an unproven leader. W_HAMILTON Nov 2018 #3
+1 Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2018 #121
+1 Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #230
Until I see evidence of a better leader than Pelosi....she needs to hang on to the torch. irresistable Nov 2018 #4
This, it would have to be someone who could roll Trump and the GOP. sunonmars Nov 2018 #6
We'll never know until she lets go. Baconator Nov 2018 #8
Is this the decade when we don't need a strong Speaker? irresistable Nov 2018 #17
Maybe we should draw straws for the position? MineralMan Nov 2018 #48
No way... Baconator Nov 2018 #64
How about this? How about we let the House members decide. MineralMan Nov 2018 #67
Im comfortable speaking my piece.. Thanks.. Baconator Nov 2018 #70
Yes, we can see that you are comfortable in that role. MineralMan Nov 2018 #72
Busy... Baconator Nov 2018 #143
Ah, I see. But, now that the election's over, you suddenly have time MineralMan Nov 2018 #149
Thank you. cwydro Nov 2018 #172
Well, I find it unsurprising, really. MineralMan Nov 2018 #181
Hmm, true dat. cwydro Nov 2018 #189
GOP and KGB would LOVE to see a new, unproven person in there, bet your ASS Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #101
Yes. They'd both love someone new as Speaker. MineralMan Nov 2018 #108
I know exactly what is going on and where, have for a long time. Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #125
Gotcha... MineralMan Nov 2018 #129
You always claim to know something you're "not allowed" to say. cwydro Nov 2018 #179
I know what he's referring to and so do you. Cary Nov 2018 #231
Absolutely not... Baconator Nov 2018 #145
You Do Know That This Is Exactly What 'They' Want Me. Nov 2018 #56
Good question. MineralMan Nov 2018 #68
Some of us are busy... Baconator Nov 2018 #71
No. I won't "shush." Not a chance. MineralMan Nov 2018 #77
Bingo FarPoint Nov 2018 #128
Hmm, why indeed. Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #103
what?? this ISNT a time for social experiments or newbies who need to learn the ropes a bit.. samnsara Nov 2018 #154
What would qualify as "evidence"? Act_of_Reparation Nov 2018 #22
Wresting the Speakership from her. irresistable Nov 2018 #27
Linda Sanchez Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2018 #25
Pffft. No way. LuvLoogie Nov 2018 #35
Bingo! Pelosi is going to be Speaker. Started back in the job last night, in fact. stopbush Nov 2018 #34
There is a reason why Republicans hate Pelosi as Speaker....She is a POWERFUL speaker. irresistable Nov 2018 #41
Yep. And double yep. nt kstewart33 Nov 2018 #117
Remember when the Treasury Secretary knelt before her, begging for support. irresistable Nov 2018 #210
Damn straight! pandr32 Nov 2018 #99
I agree. Wintryjade Nov 2018 #135
No sarah FAILIN Nov 2018 #5
Yes yes yes Thekaspervote Nov 2018 #16
I think they hate her because they find her a convenient scapegoat Crunchy Frog Nov 2018 #26
Depends on which 'they' you are talking about. Baconator Nov 2018 #148
+ struggle4progress Nov 2018 #214
Unrec. Fighting among ourselves. That is the same mistake we made in 2016. FSogol Nov 2018 #7
Talking about who we would like as leadership is not fighting among ourselves. Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2018 #15
Seriously! Do we really need to start this shit right now? smirkymonkey Nov 2018 #160
Patience, Grasshopper. A little birdie in California politics told me.... Brother Buzz Nov 2018 #9
She'll probably build a new team zipplewrath Nov 2018 #102
That's exactly what I expect Brother Buzz Nov 2018 #115
Nancy is good at her job, but she is also the most famous rethuglican antagonist meadowlark5 Nov 2018 #10
And yet we won so it didn't work...and anyone would be demonized. I won't dance to the GOP tune. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #49
Well said Cary Nov 2018 #232
Right on...vote Democratic always. Keep on moving forward. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #234
Yes. Let's get rid of her and replace her with someone Republicans will like better EffieBlack Nov 2018 #132
Yes - that's exactly what I said meadowlark5 Nov 2018 #164
So what I say... FarPoint Nov 2018 #173
I agree -- and I said she is great at her job meadowlark5 Nov 2018 #193
Hunh... 2 posts in the last 90 days. n/t demmiblue Nov 2018 #11
EXACTLY nt DURHAM D Nov 2018 #19
... And 1200 posts since last year. Baconator Nov 2018 #23
Don't tell people to "untwist their knickers," please. MineralMan Nov 2018 #62
Knickers is gender neutral... Baconator Nov 2018 #73
Not really. No, it isn't in that usage. MineralMan Nov 2018 #79
Post removed Post removed Nov 2018 #150
No, not twisted. A little bent over from time to time, but never twisted. MineralMan Nov 2018 #162
+1 2naSalit Nov 2018 #50
Worse would be someone who after being shown over and over and over and over again Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #105
It's an old trade, actually MineralMan Nov 2018 #127
Absolutely agree Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2018 #12
A democracy represents everyone--or should pandr32 Nov 2018 #109
We need to make sure that we win in 2020. Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2018 #111
Let Nancy Pelosi do her job pandr32 Nov 2018 #122
Did it occur to you that Pelosi's leadership is one of the reasons Dems took the House back? EffieBlack Nov 2018 #136
I absolutely wouldn't have blamed her. Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2018 #144
No, let's not start with that one since it's irrelevant to this discussion. EffieBlack Nov 2018 #157
HELL NO. nt Baltimike Nov 2018 #13
No. She does not. n/t GoCubsGo Nov 2018 #14
As nicely as I can, Hell No... she just won the election for us... JCMach1 Nov 2018 #18
Oh, come on, now. Certainly she played a role Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2018 #28
She did a good job and I always wonder why is it always women who get this treatment? Harry Reid Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #47
Harry Reid overstayed his effectiveness, too, IMO. I still hate his "keep the powder dry" Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2018 #51
Nancy is very effective and I don't base my decision on such an important job on age...Nancy earned Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #86
Are you even listening to what I'm saying or do you just want me to be sexist? Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2018 #93
No, saying that Reid shouldn't have stayed does not have anything to do with this...he was never Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #98
I have no ability to remove either Reid or Pelosi. Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2018 #110
I feel Nancy represents everyone fairly and we won how many seats...certainly not more than 50 % of Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #118
harry used to go toe to toe IN PERSON with murderous gangsters.. samnsara Nov 2018 #158
Ageist and bigoted comment mcar Nov 2018 #224
If Dems lost big last night, it would have been mostly Nancy's fault EffieBlack Nov 2018 #137
Sorry, but she needs to right the ship first. She will pass the torch bushisanidiot Nov 2018 #20
It's not a popular view here, but I agree. Crunchy Frog Nov 2018 #21
It is not popular because it would be foolish to put a newbie in with Trump in office. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #44
I think we can find a middle ground between... Baconator Nov 2018 #78
How old was Harry Reid when he left the Senate? Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #83
Harry overstayed his welcome as well... Baconator Nov 2018 #141
HaaaHaahaaa. Here it is..AOC. who comes with Z E R.O creds in the workings of the House Bfd Nov 2018 #142
I'm pretty sure you didn't read my post ... Baconator Nov 2018 #147
No need to. Your post was quite clear. Bfd Nov 2018 #153
Wow... Baconator Nov 2018 #161
Maybe you should go have some more bacon ChubbyStar Nov 2018 #207
No. ellie Nov 2018 #24
No Charlotte Little Nov 2018 #29
+10000000 Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #42
Agree with 29 completely. northoftheborder Nov 2018 #91
THANK you! EffieBlack Nov 2018 #140
Doesn't surprise me mcar Nov 2018 #225
Absolutely agree... revmclaren Nov 2018 #202
I think she should be Speaker at first LisaM Nov 2018 #30
No, I disagree. This is her victory. I would remind you she got health care though single handedly Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #38
To be clear, I totally support her. I would love her to be, and stay, Speaker. LisaM Nov 2018 #89
I hope she stays. We need her. The ones who want her out are not capable of doing the job. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #92
Again, I agree with you. I don't think anyone could do a better job than she has. LisaM Nov 2018 #104
How fun! We can agree to agree right? Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #119
I could get behind that... Baconator Nov 2018 #156
Yes, obviously BeyondGeography Nov 2018 #31
I'm just going to let the Dems in the House decide that. Kaleva Nov 2018 #32
There certainly needs to be someone warming up in the bullpen. TheCowsCameHome Nov 2018 #33
Absolutely not...she is the only one that knows how to deal with this sort of situation and it is Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #36
NO. Not Now. Cunning and guile beats youth and exuberance. Stinky The Clown Nov 2018 #37
Absolutely right. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #39
Donna Edwards said the same thing last night Raven123 Nov 2018 #95
"Face it, girls. I'm older and have more insurance." EffieBlack Nov 2018 #146
That's a false choice... Baconator Nov 2018 #166
Dogs with bones live in simplistic worlds Stinky The Clown Nov 2018 #188
Not yet eleny Nov 2018 #40
Nope. We need her experience and skills now. MineralMan Nov 2018 #43
You seem concerned. nt Codeine Nov 2018 #45
Well.. Baconator Nov 2018 #169
Why? snowybirdie Nov 2018 #46
Jesus Fucking Christ. ismnotwasm Nov 2018 #52
What? Where? Baconator Nov 2018 #174
Says Who? Me. Nov 2018 #53
Nope RelativelyJones Nov 2018 #54
And why, pray tell, should we listen to you? MineralMan Nov 2018 #55
I'll keep you company while you wait. EffieBlack Nov 2018 #192
By all means. Pull up a chair. Can I get you some coffee or a soft drink? MineralMan Nov 2018 #194
No, thanks. I'm good EffieBlack Nov 2018 #215
Regrettably, the OP had a post removed upthread. MineralMan Nov 2018 #216
Oh, well ... EffieBlack Nov 2018 #217
Yes. MineralMan Nov 2018 #218
I'd rather keep her. DO NOT GIVE IN TO THEIR NARRATIVE OF NANCY PELOSI! In It to Win It Nov 2018 #58
No. She is Madame Speaker and will remain so. Autumn Nov 2018 #59
yes! I agree.... samnsara Nov 2018 #155
This is not the time for someone to work on getting their resume padded for a step Autumn Nov 2018 #221
That comparison is false, and may I remind you the 16 primary Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #60
No gracias. violetpastille Nov 2018 #61
She's made it clear that she plans on doing just that. Garrett78 Nov 2018 #63
I trust Pelosi 100%. Bleacher Creature Nov 2018 #65
Oh brother! NurseJackie Nov 2018 #66
It's amazing how Dems increasing their gains in the House 2 years in a row... SaschaHM Nov 2018 #100
Post removed Post removed Nov 2018 #168
The Pelosi-haters can't resist any opportunity to bash her... NurseJackie Nov 2018 #209
They are marginal, but noisy Cary Nov 2018 #233
Your entire premise is predicated on a logical fallacy. LanternWaste Nov 2018 #69
I'm not confident you know what some of those words mean... Baconator Nov 2018 #171
Bless your little heart... your confidence is irrelevant, your fallacies telling. LanternWaste Nov 2018 #183
Ok, I'll bite... Baconator Nov 2018 #185
Keep up, and stay on your own topic. LanternWaste Nov 2018 #186
You're not, eh? Well allow me to assure you that MineralMan Nov 2018 #195
What's the Problem with a Strong and Talented Speaker? Here Comes the Sexism dlk Nov 2018 #74
Agreed Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2018 #75
as DUer Are_grits_groceries posted today: musette_sf Nov 2018 #76
+100 MineralMan Nov 2018 #81
So tired of people trashing Pelosi. kstewart33 Nov 2018 #113
As am I. GoCubsGo Nov 2018 #139
There is literally no reason she can't share that knowledge... Baconator Nov 2018 #176
Speaking as a senior leader highly accountable for knowledge transfer, musette_sf Nov 2018 #191
Absolutely!! Spot on. Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2018 #80
NOPE!! 2naSalit Nov 2018 #82
Biggest fund raiser in the party, the same reason Ryan was speaker. sarcasmo Nov 2018 #84
Sorry but I support Nancy Pelosi 100%..... chillfactor Nov 2018 #85
Don't be sorry. There's no reason to be. MineralMan Nov 2018 #204
Wrong--Pelosi has years of deep experience-Stupid to suggest she pass the torch KatyBR Nov 2018 #87
I'm with Nancy. blueinredohio Nov 2018 #88
Keep her. She passes off the Right Codeine Nov 2018 #90
Personally torn in my case awesomerwb1 Nov 2018 #94
She should announce this is he last rodeo krawhitham Nov 2018 #96
Few if any can hold a candle to her lunatica Nov 2018 #97
Pelosi needs to stay. walkingman Nov 2018 #106
Pelosi is tops in my book! Boomer Nov 2018 #107
I bet you take a knife to a gunfight nini Nov 2018 #112
When it is time, Pelosi will pass the torch. It is not time. Justice Nov 2018 #116
We do not need more of the same... disillusioned73 Nov 2018 #120
Now is not the time to stoke dissent Mr. Ected Nov 2018 #123
Fuck no blackdove78 Nov 2018 #124
Nope. Not yet. Freethinker65 Nov 2018 #126
Or what? Gonna take your ball and go home? EllieBC Nov 2018 #130
Not this crap again ... EffieBlack Nov 2018 #131
I want Pelosi in there, focused, not passing a gavel. She knows what is happening. Wintryjade Nov 2018 #133
Barbara Lee for speaker please. n/t SubjectTrip Nov 2018 #134
We need experience and she's it OBrien Nov 2018 #138
i have questions for both sides 0rganism Nov 2018 #151
NOPE!!!!!!!!!!!!! samnsara Nov 2018 #152
All she has to do is say "I promise to have this job for only 2 years, to get thru this tough time" scheming daemons Nov 2018 #159
She has pretty much ALREADY said that. Bfd Nov 2018 #165
She is speaking now. ginnyinWI Nov 2018 #163
I agree. redstatebluegirl Nov 2018 #167
No thats ageism. Joe941 Nov 2018 #170
It's pragmatism and realism... Baconator Nov 2018 #175
No, it's ageism, as you demonstrated once again. MineralMan Nov 2018 #201
Recommended. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #177
Nope tazkcmo Nov 2018 #178
Probably... Meh... Not so much... Baconator Nov 2018 #180
Who doesn't like her? EllieBC Nov 2018 #182
Oh.. That's healthy... Baconator Nov 2018 #184
Nancy was right. sagesnow Nov 2018 #187
So wrong -- Pelosi isn't the problem jmellman Nov 2018 #190
Unless she starts talking "Bi-Partisanship" or "Impeachment's off the Table" I'm fine with her. jalan48 Nov 2018 #196
The first congress person to vow to change rainy Nov 2018 #197
Nope. n/t cynatnite Nov 2018 #198
When she passes the torch, it'll be to a CBC leader. displacedtexan Nov 2018 #199
No.We need her smarts, her wisdom and her cojones. Cousin Dupree Nov 2018 #200
I don't know who could replace her, but she could drink coffee before speaking. Not inspiring at all Pisces Nov 2018 #203
These "Nancy needs to pass the torch" posts are always a little Squinch Nov 2018 #205
Nancy Pelosi is talented. She's likeable. She's a great communicator. She applegrove Nov 2018 #206
Why, and to whom? If you have your reasons and you want to be persuasive, maybe let us in on them.nt JCanete Nov 2018 #208
I think she should in a year or so - prior to 2020 AlexSFCA Nov 2018 #211
Nope. #1 Don't swallow GOP Koolaid. #2 Her House peers will either elect her or not. nt Hekate Nov 2018 #212
Yes let's force her to leave so someone less competent can slide in. delisen Nov 2018 #213
Great timing. Not. BootinUp Nov 2018 #219
Yes. nt Hotler Nov 2018 #220
No. Just no mcar Nov 2018 #222
Wrong -- she is one of the top Speakers ever obamanut2012 Nov 2018 #223
Right now, with this president, we need a stong DeminPennswoods Nov 2018 #226
BULL-shit. Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #227
From the DU home page ... lpbk2713 Nov 2018 #229
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