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DonCoquixote

(13,615 posts)
108. YUP and
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 01:07 AM
Nov 2018

we have a recount in Florida with a black candidate running against Trump's hand-picked stooge.

Look folks, I like Biden as much as anyone. The fact that he was Obama's VP is something that can be driven right into the face of the racists who hate the fact that he proudly and loyally called obama his BOSS. BUT, the idea of a white ticket being put up just to avoid ticking off the always ticked off racists is nothing more than a dog trying to submit in the hope it's master won't beat it anymore (and he will.)

Furthermore, even though Bernie Sanders did have some good ideas, the way he supported racism, and the stubborn unwillingness to learn from it he showed this week, shows that in typical white fashion he does not feel he has to learn anything or make amends. Bernie, how dare you say that people who feel uncomfortable voting fora black person are NOT racist? In true trumpian fashion you went to NPR to "clarify things"

https://www.npr.org/2018/11/08/665809570/bernie-sanders-clarifies-comments-about-racism-hurting-black-candidates?ref=hvper.com&utm_source=hvper.com&utm_medium=website

and I say Trumpian fashion because frankly, this was sugar poured over the verbal turd. If you did not know better by now, then you need to et out of politics till you learn better. This was right up there with Trump's "there are good people on both sides."

I have news for all those good "moderate Centrists" and "old school working class" types. The fact that you did not crush the racists early is the reason why the GOP has all that ammo they use. As long as white america knows that black people can always be put under them, they will NOT support any of these dreams of unionized labor, or more jobs, or anything like that, why? let me get a real political expert to tell you:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/lbj-convince-the-lowest-white-man/

OH yes...the GOP saw white people abandon all dem unions that Mochael Moore and bernie sing about, as well as many of FDR's hard won, bloodstained Standards and turf, because white people felt they did not have to walk hand in hand with blacks and browns. You will not get this ward won turf back until you promise to work with others, even if that means being side by side with the same people the GOP tells you should be under you!

So, let me get this straight, DU [View all] EffieBlack Nov 2018 OP
You are, dear Maeve Nov 2018 #1
It seems to me that some Democrats are buying the Republican's propaganda. olegramps Nov 2018 #28
Buying & ReSelling Me. Nov 2018 #77
Hasn't she said she's ready to hand it off at some point? Bettie Nov 2018 #2
Agreed. Nancy should, no doubt, be the next GWC58 Nov 2018 #4
I will however, say Bettie Nov 2018 #14
I can get with that. GWC58 Nov 2018 #16
That was my thought, too. WinstonSmith4740 Nov 2018 #68
Yes sir, GWC58 Nov 2018 #94
THAT and potentially the first woman POTUS! democratisphere Nov 2018 #57
I've heard it described as "herding cats." And she's THE BEST at it. calimary Nov 2018 #78
She will be. She has also said that she will be working with others to groom them into House still_one Nov 2018 #128
We do need that right now. BadgerMom Nov 2018 #60
She absolutely is and that is why we need her in this critical moment In It to Win It Nov 2018 #74
I think she has earned the right to transition, and in fact, it makes sense Baitball Blogger Nov 2018 #3
Why fight the criminal on chief when we can argue amongst ourselves? NightWatcher Nov 2018 #5
We always bdamomma Nov 2018 #6
It's unsurprising when we lose, but especially dismaying when we've won. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2018 #7
+1000..... Heartstrings Nov 2018 #41
Pelosi should stay, the black man scared whites by his competence marylandblue Nov 2018 #8
Putin and the Orange blob HipChick Nov 2018 #10
Yes, always racist, but things were improving for a while marylandblue Nov 2018 #11
Divide and conquer is their motto Sunsky Nov 2018 #12
You misunderstood my post, and I will not fight with you on it marylandblue Nov 2018 #13
Nah, it can never be more worst and ugly than I think Sunsky Nov 2018 #19
Not blaming them, I changed my header marylandblue Nov 2018 #32
Ok, how it was phrased before gave a totally different vibe Sunsky Nov 2018 #42
Yes we have to fight racism, but now we have to fight authoritarianism too. marylandblue Nov 2018 #98
Yup Sunsky Nov 2018 #105
Picking your battles is a necessity not a luxury marylandblue Nov 2018 #121
-Says the privileged. Sunsky Nov 2018 #123
Well I do have a question, if you choose to return marylandblue Nov 2018 #124
Bullshit EffieBlack Nov 2018 #106
I don't think we can't run a black or a woman marylandblue Nov 2018 #117
I think you're being very myopic EffieBlack Nov 2018 #118
You do have a point there, I still think that job is harder, but marylandblue Nov 2018 #119
I don't think people become "part of the problem" for opinions marylandblue Nov 2018 #120
Respectfully, you are mistaking what you clearly perceive for what marylandblue clearly conveys. better Nov 2018 #49
Misogyny played a huge part in 2016. Let's also not forget Putin... brush Nov 2018 #64
Respectfully, I disagree Sunsky Nov 2018 #71
"Racism's dead"... czarjak Nov 2018 #73
"The black man" didn't "cause" anything EffieBlack Nov 2018 #30
Changed my header, really they were afraid of him. marylandblue Nov 2018 #38
So we shouldn't put them in charge because white people? EffieBlack Nov 2018 #44
Quite the contrary, we should put them in charge despite, or perhaps even BECAUSE white people. better Nov 2018 #55
Let's hope a DECADE of resistance and backlash may have peaked. Hortensis Nov 2018 #80
My fear is they will get scared and turn violent marylandblue Nov 2018 #97
So, we hide our women and black folk because we think they'll trigger violence in white people? EffieBlack Nov 2018 #100
Not hide, just run the best person who can win. marylandblue Nov 2018 #101
Why do you assume a woman or minority is not "the best person who can win"? EffieBlack Nov 2018 #103
Yes, he caused a backlash of racism because he was too good. dsp3000 Nov 2018 #130
Hillary and Nancy are lightning rods, but the right will welcome Beto with open arms EffieBlack Nov 2018 #131
Thanks dsp3000 Nov 2018 #132
I like Nancy thinkingagain Nov 2018 #9
I am not AGAINST Pelosi, per se... Adrahil Nov 2018 #15
ANY effective democratic leader will be a hate magnet for the GOP! workinclasszero Nov 2018 #22
I don't disagree, but.... Adrahil Nov 2018 #25
+1 progressoid Nov 2018 #27
Hey I'm all for younger folks getting into leadership roles workinclasszero Nov 2018 #29
Thanks, working! We're on the same Cha Nov 2018 #114
Well it all comes down to an intelligent strong woman workinclasszero Nov 2018 #115
+1 Power 2 the People Nov 2018 #107
+1 Exactly! Our job is not to be loved by Republicans. violetpastille Nov 2018 #43
Exactly seta1950 Nov 2018 #45
Right & Giving INto Their Hate Means Me. Nov 2018 #79
Couldn't agree more... besides, who cares what the Rethugs think! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #104
FDR's speech you are referring to wasn't directed at just Republicans, it was far more broad Celerity Nov 2018 #116
The "hate magnet" is the invention of the right-wingers FakeNoose Nov 2018 #24
+100 workinclasszero Nov 2018 #31
Yes, of course it is. Adrahil Nov 2018 #36
Come on, anyone would be a hate magnet uponit7771 Nov 2018 #48
So was Obama, when you think about it. (nt) ehrnst Nov 2018 #61
Be a hate magnet?!? Fatemah2774 Nov 2018 #70
That's my point about Pelosi. (nt) ehrnst Nov 2018 #81
She's Considering Stepping Down ProfessorGAC Nov 2018 #17
It's the orthodoxy trolls, again, EffieBlack. Aristus Nov 2018 #18
I just posted downthread. Ayanna Pressley, Alexandria Cortez are Dem women not backing Pelosi right Pisces Nov 2018 #76
It's crazy isn't it? workinclasszero Nov 2018 #20
Imagine if you will.... safeinOhio Nov 2018 #21
Technical point, they'd have to both be impeached simultaneously; otherwise whoever wasn't impeached flibbitygiblets Nov 2018 #26
You can bet Pence already has someone lined up to take the VP spot. Mariana Nov 2018 #134
What pisses me off is all the people who want her out because the R's have demonized her flibbitygiblets Nov 2018 #23
Exactly. They completely demonize the most EFFECTIVE ones. deurbano Nov 2018 #35
I trust Nancy Pelosi and our Democratic Party Leadership to do what's best.. Amimnoch Nov 2018 #33
Nancy needs to stay! karin_sj Nov 2018 #34
You are in the right place mcar Nov 2018 #37
"she just led an historic Democratic takeover of the House"? progressoid Nov 2018 #39
+1000. What exactly did she do? nt Shipwack Nov 2018 #52
LOL EffieBlack Nov 2018 #86
I am unaware that she even got coffee... Shipwack Nov 2018 #99
Yes EffieBlack Nov 2018 #102
No seta1950 Nov 2018 #40
No kidding. Bernie Sanders will be pushing 80 in 2020 & folks are begging him to run. catbyte Nov 2018 #50
I stand with Nancy Pelosi! (Fuck the Pelosi-haters!) NurseJackie Nov 2018 #46
Their cover is blown and we recognize them now, their push's don't work like they used to uponit7771 Nov 2018 #47
OK, I'll step into hte crosshairs... Shipwack Nov 2018 #51
She has earned the position of speaker. MontanaMama Nov 2018 #53
are you surprised? grantcart Nov 2018 #54
I'll trust those that we elected judgement o this. Scruffy1 Nov 2018 #56
Misogyny Rules - It Wasn't Just Directed at Hillary - It's An Issue for All Accomplished Women dlk Nov 2018 #58
So damn easy to see it workinclasszero Nov 2018 #63
She gets the blame when Dems aren't elected... then get castigated when we do. (nt) ehrnst Nov 2018 #59
I don't love Nancy P. But.... LakeArenal Nov 2018 #62
are you crazy?!? Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2018 #65
Most of the new people that won won by running against her Renew Deal Nov 2018 #66
And if the first vote they make is for her BeyondGeography Nov 2018 #83
Any Democrat who wants to throw out their Dem rep because they voted for Pelosi EffieBlack Nov 2018 #87
Yeah, that was my point BeyondGeography Nov 2018 #92
I think you completely missed my point EffieBlack Nov 2018 #93
The circular firing squad is already forming up. davsand Nov 2018 #67
I think you speak for many Dems. Unless someone emerges like Obama, stay the course. Pepsidog Nov 2018 #72
I don't necessarily care either way if she stays... vi5 Nov 2018 #69
Ayanna Pressley first African American woman in MA, Alexandria Cortez have refused to say they are Pisces Nov 2018 #75
Yeah, it's a bit of excess both ways zipplewrath Nov 2018 #82
+1 progressoid Nov 2018 #85
I've worked with Pelosi. She speaks softly but is an effing barracuda EffieBlack Nov 2018 #88
We need her. (nt) ehrnst Nov 2018 #89
Effie, I've seen many of your posts and I'll take your word for it. Pisces Nov 2018 #90
I vote Pelosi. Wintryjade Nov 2018 #84
Pelosi is guilty of being PatSeg Nov 2018 #91
And 100+ women of all ages and races won Tuesday night obamanut2012 Nov 2018 #95
Youth need to read this Pacifist Patriot Nov 2018 #96
this dweller Nov 2018 #110
deserves an OP dweller Nov 2018 #113
YUP and DonCoquixote Nov 2018 #108
I share your concern Gothmog Nov 2018 #109
K and R forever. JHan Nov 2018 #111
"in the right place" sometimes like you Raine Nov 2018 #112
Its just discussion. So if you like political discussion then you're in the right place. aikoaiko Nov 2018 #122
Pelosi and DU are tops in my book. Solid Democrat here. oasis Nov 2018 #125
Sad but true Lotusflower70 Nov 2018 #126
And non-white and women candidates (and a lot of non-white women) won big- dawg day Nov 2018 #127
The Black Caucus has made it clear they want a leadership in this Congress. Not only is it way past still_one Nov 2018 #129
There's one person who would be a more appropriate speaker after indictments drop Generic Brad Nov 2018 #133
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